My 3sgte swap thread, The diary begins TODAY! Options

[CelicaZR]

Good luck with the swap
You are such an awesome guy Art, always looking out for
the well being of other members and giving good advices

[lagos]

You are such an awesome guy Art, always looking out for
the well being of other members and giving good advices

thanks man, i apriciate it.

[brianforster]

playr ill be coming home next friday or saturday depending on when i can get someone with a truck to help me tote the engine home

[Drocay]

if u guys need any help, i'm close as well.

[scothaniel]

in order to pass state inspection i have to have a cat

Get a cheapy from Summit Racing - like $60. The local exhaust shop said the same thing to me, then tried to charge $225 for a cat.

[brianforster]

update:

today me daniel (playr158) mark (mark_426) and brandon i think (pimped6gen) had a fun day of pulling stuff off of marks car.

i got the doors (to make sure everythign was there for power windows we just unbolted the door at the hinge and brought it home like that) the dash, shifter trim, body wiring harness, rear brakes, gt shifter cables, throttle cables, and prolly other stuff i dont remember.

this cuts my list of parts needed to do the swap and restore the car down a lot, i am excited about everything i get to do to the celica, even though it will be time consuming.

playr will probably post too, i think he under estimated how stupid i was, but im learning! (i got the rear brakes off by myself untill i went to the bathroom and mark and daniel took over haha)

[Defgeph]

sweet man that car is getting the full treatment !

[brianforster]

haha yeah it is, new airbags, airbag ecu, front crash sensor, new front bumper, new engine/transmission, new dash, new door panels, new body wiring harness new engine wiring harness. adding power options where there previously were none, theres gonna be more of other celicas in my celi than my celica! new headlights too haha.

but, it will be worth it because of the transformation it will undergo, sure, it might ahve been easier and cheaper to buy a better shell, but i have to work with what i got, and its gonna clearly be better due to the effort put into it, in my opinion

the ultimate transformation begins in 1 week

This post has been edited by brianforster: Mar 11, 2006 - 1:00 AM

[playr158]

mwahaha that was the 4th or 5th celica i've dismantled in about the last 4 months it was a great day plus getting to meet 2 more 6gc members was a blast even i was able to bring home a part

but oh man do we have freakin loads of work to do with rewiring your car

[brianforster]

since i have an ST now, this means i need to find a 3sgte or a 5sfe a/c condensor and ac lines, correct?

[Dr_Tweak]

since i have an ST now, this means i need to find a 3sgte or a 5sfe a/c condensor and ac lines, correct?

Or you can have custom lines made at a shop for you, also the power steering lines need some work, and you'll need a resevoir, and a cooler if you want to run one.

-Doc

[brianforster]

since i have an ST now, this means i need to find a 3sgte or a 5sfe a/c condensor and ac lines, correct?

Or you can have custom lines made at a shop for you, also the power steering lines need some work, and you'll need a resevoir, and a cooler if you want to run one.

-Doc

a resevoir and a cooler for the p/s? from a 5sfe or a 3sgte?

[lagos]

how long to you think your project will take? it seems like you have a TON of work ahead of you.

[brianforster]

how long to you think your project will take? it seems like you have a TON of work ahead of you.

im hoping to start the 18th and be done the 26th.

keep in mind that during those 9 days i will be doing nothing but working on this car (provided the sun is up, and if i can get lighting, then ill do it during the night to)

ill prolly be working on it a good 12 hours a day during that time, and ill have help from daniel (playr) and chucky (bojangles) and some other friends that arent 6gc guys, some things will happen at the same time (removal of engine and converting back brakes for instance, putting in new engine and working on airbags, etc.)

edit: this is why i ask so many questions about parts, i do not want to have to wait on anythign parts wise, so i spend a good 6 hours a day now reading, searching, buying stuff for the swap and restoration of my car, im confident i can finish it, it is a lot of work but i think i can do it)

certain things make my job easier, like the wiring harness being done already (which i found out was done by qatar) and pretty much everything being attatched to the engine (for instance, the serpentine belt is attatched and tight, so power steering and A/C are all still connected) even the motor mounts are on the engine (mark gave me almost everything).

certain tasks also go together, like replacing the airbags, well my life got easier since i bought marks dash + interior wiring harness, so i can repalce the passenger airbag while it is outside the car, remove my dash, and put marks on, viola i am now wired for all power options. i also bought marks doors and door panels, so theres another easy step, i will remove the power options pieces and put them onto my car.

i also have to change the front bumper and some headlights, but since i have to take the front bumper off to mount intercooler, thats no extra work either, see where im going with this?

basically i will be performing open heart surgery on this beast, but i do not feel overwhelmed, i have great friends and great sources of info and i think it is entirely realistic to have this car running that quickly.

This post has been edited by brianforster: Mar 12, 2006 - 12:28 PM

[lagos]

i hate to give you a reality check, but unless youve done lots of swaps before, there is no way youll be done in just 9 days. back when i started my swap, i originally thought it would take me 2 weeks, and in reality it took 2 months, and i didnt have to redo the whole car from the ground up like you are doing. another thing is, that you dont want to rush anything during a project like this. now is the time to look over everything a tripple check that you did everything right, so that you dont have to pull the motor again.

working 12hr straight sounds like a good plan, in theory, but youll be dead tired after a few days and wont be able to continue that pace. also, unexpected things pop up when working on a car that will set you back longer then you thought sometimes.

dont get me wrong, you can totally swap a motor in a weekend, but only if you know what you are doing a head of time and have everything preped and ready to go before you start.

[brianforster]

i hate to give you a reality check, but unless youve done lots of swaps before, there is no way youll be done in just 9 days. back when i started my swap, i originally thought it would take me 2 weeks, and in reality it took 2 months, and i didnt have to redo the whole car from the ground up like you are doing. another thing is, that you dont want to rush anything during a project like this. now is the time to look over everything a tripple check that you did everything right, so that you dont have to pull the motor again.

working 12hr straight sounds like a good plan, in theory, but youll be dead tired after a few days and wont be able to continue that pace. also, unexpected things pop up when working on a car that will set you back longer then you thought sometimes.

dont get me wrong, you can totally swap a motor in a weekend, but only if you know what you are doing a head of time and have everything preped and ready to go before you start.

the thing is, my motor came out of a running, swapped, 6th gen celica, so i have an edge against most people here who have done swaps.

and to the "dead tired" thing after a few days, sure i will be, but it wont stop me, i am determined to finish this, and ive never been too tired to work on something that benefits me.

as far as the interior stuff goes, that can all be done while the motor swap is happening so i dont really add that to "time needed"

did you do the swap by yourself? because i will probably have atleast 2-4 people with me each day helping out on different sections of the car.

edit: i do understand unforseen consequences though, i just think ill be able to work around them, now, i could end up with my foot in mouth (seems like a trend lately) but as of now i think i (and the people helping me) have a very good shot at completing this car in this time frame.

This post has been edited by brianforster: Mar 12, 2006 - 2:10 PM

[playr158]

art don't forget you also had to do wiring ect. and a few misc. things
this one has a lot of pre-prepared stuff already not to mention lots of documentation which also wasn't around back then....

but unless youve done lots of swaps before, there is no way youll be done in just 9 days.

and just cause he hasn't done one doens't mean that its impossible...

but the only way to find out is to try

[brianforster]

ordered my muffler, cat, and flex pipe today off of ebay "performance-curve" was the ebay store, stuff looks pretty good. if it isnt, well, its gonna have to do for now! haha.

magnaflow SS muffler
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1

3" flex pipe
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...item=8044013480

3" high flow cat
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1

total 166$ shipped.. not bad

This post has been edited by brianforster: Mar 12, 2006 - 5:29 PM

[brianforster]

going home thursday to begin everythign!

still have to figure out what im doing for:
p/s lines, a/c lines, windshield, and airbag sensors, other than that, im pretty done!

the workload is big, but daniel (playr158) and my other friends are convinced we can finish it all!

will keep everyone updated

[easternpiro1]

going home thursday to begin everythign!

still have to figure out what im doing for:
p/s lines, a/c lines, windshield, and airbag sensors, other than that, im pretty done!

the workload is big, but daniel (playr158) and my other friends are convinced we can finish it all!

will keep everyone updated

BOY! i hope i can see this by the time i get up to va!!