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> Bad news for this celica.., didn't make it to the 1000 mile mark...
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post Mar 19, 2006 - 12:02 AM
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Well the engine didn't make it to the 1000 mile mark after my friend and I rebuilt it.. frown.gif It sounds like something happened with the bearings again.... mostly likely because we didn't machine down the crank or consider putting oversized bearings in it...

so now i'm trying to figure out what to do... I am VERY low on money and may have my parents help pay so not sure what the best option would be.. I'd love to have a 3sgte but i'm not a racer and my friend really thinks that'd be a waste of money... but now I just want to get this thing running like new.. no more of this partially fix it so it still makes noises and worries me every time i drive it... so wondering what you all honestly think..

If you can, please let me know how much you all paid for swaps or engine installs if you took them to a shop.. since my friend now has a full time job and wouldn't be able to help me do this work...

Thank you everyone :-)


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post Mar 19, 2006 - 12:08 AM
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i vote newer 5S man...if youre not into performance i say dont go for a 3sgte.

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post Mar 19, 2006 - 12:10 AM
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Sorry to hear about your engine. Won't you have to convert to OBD-II if you swap in a newer 5S?


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post Mar 19, 2006 - 12:12 AM
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not a racer? Dont do a 3s. Not alot of cash...not a 3s. your best bet is a new low mileage 5f motor.

This post has been edited by devilsden97: Mar 19, 2006 - 12:13 AM


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post Mar 19, 2006 - 1:50 AM
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5S. Seriously. It'll save you money. Call in Tweak OBD2 talk. I can't remember but i have a newer 5S in mine as well.


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post Mar 19, 2006 - 3:16 AM
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Sorry to hear about the motor man.

Great news is though, you can pull a fresh low mileage 5SFE out of alot of junked Toyotas. Go to "car-part.com" and you can find a very low mileage Celica, Solara, Camry, or even MR2 5SFE motor for not a ton of money.

Definately your best bet from the sounds of things....from there you can ask for help on the install from some knowledgable members on here. Manny (presure2) put an OBDII motor in his 94, so he should be able to help you out greatly with the install.


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post Mar 19, 2006 - 3:20 AM
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agreed. 5sfe

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post Mar 19, 2006 - 5:16 AM
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I would look at a 5sfe or a 3sge in your situation smile.gif


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post Mar 19, 2006 - 8:27 AM
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you dont have to go obdII to put a 96+ engine in a 94-95.
you just use the 94-95 harness, and ecu. and swap out the distributor and egr valve.


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post Mar 19, 2006 - 5:49 PM
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QUOTE(presure2 @ Mar 19, 2006 - 8:27 AM) [snapback]409928[/snapback]

you dont have to go obdII to put a 96+ engine in a 94-95.
you just use the 94-95 harness, and ecu. and swap out the distributor and egr valve.



yep! its pretty easy, you just need to have your old motor there to swap over a few things and you are all set.


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post Mar 19, 2006 - 5:57 PM
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Thank you all for the feedback.. i'm still not sure what to do... I still would love to have the power of a 3sgte but not sure the price difference...

what all did you all pay for clips? and how much did a shop install it for?


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post Mar 19, 2006 - 6:05 PM
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QUOTE(Jaws4God @ Mar 19, 2006 - 5:57 PM) [snapback]410028[/snapback]

Thank you all for the feedback.. i'm still not sure what to do... I still would love to have the power of a 3sgte but not sure the price difference...

what all did you all pay for clips? and how much did a shop install it for?



some people spend less and some spend more. if u do your own work it will cost you around 4grand. if you have a shop do it for you, GOD only knows how much youll pay and how badly they will mess it up.

if you are on a tight budget, buy a low milage 5sfe from a junk yard, and swap it out in your own garage. should cost no more then 1 grand with all the tune up stuff.


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post Mar 19, 2006 - 9:28 PM
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considering your options, a 5sfe is good, save up and mod it a bit to be a lil quicker than stock, that'd be a good daily driver 5sfe

if you want 3sgte swap, save up a ton and have someone who knows their toyota do the swap for you, like Doc Tweak, but i wouldn't daily drive a 3sgte, too precious

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post Mar 19, 2006 - 9:51 PM
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i would say 5sfe, i am getting a 3sgte for my celica, so i will sell you mine if you want it. There is no knocks or anything. And it run great, the only problemi have had with it is a vacuum leak. And i will sell you the motor for 200+shipping. PM me if interested, 110K on the motor. I wont be able to give it to you right away though so you might need to wait a month or so.


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post Mar 19, 2006 - 10:14 PM
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you all make good points...

anyone else with a 5sfe laying around.. let me know smile.gif


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post Mar 19, 2006 - 11:16 PM
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im selling one!


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post Mar 19, 2006 - 11:28 PM
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idk. now i'm swinging more towards the 3s... i mean i'd get much more power / money... and plus its what i'm really wanting... i think now i just need to really crunch the numbers.. and figure out what i have to have done exactly and who to do it... frown.gif


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post Mar 20, 2006 - 12:22 AM
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Isn't Tweak in your area now?


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hey, nice mod does it come in hetero?


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post Mar 20, 2006 - 10:03 AM
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5S, or 5s-fte

With how much you talk about not speeding and not racing a 3sgte just doesnt seem your style at least. With the direction that your going with your car, body kit, air ride, basicly showing it, a 3s would just be overkill.

Consider the 1mz tho?

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post Mar 20, 2006 - 10:49 AM
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I think another 5s would be the cheapest best alternative as well.

However, I want to point out that you don't need to be into "racing" to want a 3s. I never race (other than spanking a few people at a stop light at times) but still enjoy the power and sportiness of the 3s.


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QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]

i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.

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