Swap Clutch Question, 3sgte with stock 5sfe tranny and drivetrain Options

[Aaagogo]

Hi guys,

some of you might know, my swap has been goin on for months... got delayed from school work and what not...

anyway i've got 2 mths to complete the swap b4 my GF comes over to visit and i can bring her out in my convertible.

Ok, here's the question,

what kind of hybrid clutch system do i have to get for the 3sgte engine to mate with my stock 5sfe tranny.

Thanx guys,

PS, many more qns will follow as i start more work on my swap.

[playr158]

Clutch:
if using the gt tranny with the 3sgte motor, you will need:
5sfe disk (or a custom made 3sgte disk, with the splines for the 5sfe tranny)
5sfe throwout bearing
5sfe alignment tool
3sgte pressure plate
3sgte flywheel (or just get your stock one resurfaced)

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=28825

right outta the sticky!

[Dr_Tweak]

If you do use a regular 5SFE disc, then make sure you get a good one, like a stage 2.

-Doc

[DG_Performance]

Right on! I have heard the alltrac 3s clutch pressure plate is supposed to be more clamping power than the mr2 one but i cant comfirm that. I is possibly just a rumor??? Some mr2 guys say this cause of the awd setup on the alltrac compared to the rwd on the mr2. so mr2 guys have always ordered the altrac kit just incase it is not a rumor for better clamp on the disc.
DG

[Aaagogo]

roger that, thanx guys.

[Defgeph]

Call spec they can make you a clutch kit for your set up. The reason why you should'nt use a 5sfe disk and 3sgte P.P. Is because the 5sfe disk is smaller than the FW contact surface and you will not utilize all of the gripping power you can. The spec kit will make a 3sgte disk with 5sfe splines. Its perfect, and the right way to do it.

DEF

[scothaniel]

You could just order a 3SGE clutch and flywheel. Centerforce, TRD and ACT all have upgraded clutches for the 3SGE.

I have heard the alltrac 3s clutch pressure plate is supposed to be more clamping power than the mr2 one but i cant comfirm that.

The alltrac and MR2 pressure plates have the same part number in the EPC. I'd say thats a rumor.

[x_itchy_b_x]

5sfe clutch disc in a 3s pressure plate. notice how much smaller it is.

[lagos]

ill just copy and paste myself...

Lagos wrote:
Clutch:
if using the gt tranny with the 3sgte motor, you will need:
5sfe disk (or a custom made 3sgte disk, with the splines for the 5sfe tranny)
5sfe throwout bearing
5sfe alignment tool
3sgte pressure plate
3sgte flywheel (or just get your stock one resurfaced)

if you are going to use an mr2 turbo tranny, then all you need to do is buy a clutch kit for a 90-93 turbo mr2.

be carefull when buying clutch disks for the 5sfe tranny. a stage 1 disk for the 5sfe is not the same thing as a stage 1 disk for the 3sgte. so if you get something like a stock oem clutch or a ACT street disk, it probably will not hold the power you need to put down.
if you call up a company like Spec or Clutchmasters and tell them about your project, they can make you a custom disk that can hold the power you will make and have the correct spline count that you need.

[Aaagogo]

I did that Lagos, i read the sticky so many times that i think i can recite it in my sleep

this was what i emailed Spec

Hi, a few members from my forum pointed in your direction for the clutch kit
that i would require.

I'm doing a JDM 3sgte swap into a 6th Gen 5sfe and i'm using the stock
5sfe tranny. I was told that you guys make the 3sgte clutch kit with a 5sfe
spline in the disc for this kinda engine swap.

What is the estimate cost with shipping if i would require 1 of this hybrid
clutch kit outfitted with a stage 3 clutch.

And i got this as a reply

We manufacture much higher quality parts than Exedy. ! You had asked for a st3 , so that is our 360 degree cnc pressure ring high clamp pressure plate and 6 puck sprung carbon sm disc. The bearings and tool are included, too.

i was confused, that's y i asked. I know def had his made from Spec, so i was just checking to double confirm. Dont wan to order something and ended up no working.

ill just copy and paste myself...

Lagos wrote:
Clutch:
if using the gt tranny with the 3sgte motor, you will need:
5sfe disk (or a custom made 3sgte disk, with the splines for the 5sfe tranny)
5sfe throwout bearing
5sfe alignment tool
3sgte pressure plate
3sgte flywheel (or just get your stock one resurfaced)

if you are going to use an mr2 turbo tranny, then all you need to do is buy a clutch kit for a 90-93 turbo mr2.

be carefull when buying clutch disks for the 5sfe tranny. a stage 1 disk for the 5sfe is not the same thing as a stage 1 disk for the 3sgte. so if you get something like a stock oem clutch or a ACT street disk, it probably will not hold the power you need to put down.
if you call up a company like Spec or Clutchmasters and tell them about your project, they can make you a custom disk that can hold the power you will make and have the correct spline count that you need.

[x_itchy_b_x]

call spec. ask for david norton. tell him john sent you.

[Aaagogo]

double checked my email, david norton was the one who was answering my emails.

i will email them again....

thanx

call spec. ask for david norton. tell him john sent you.

[Chanh55]

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=34274&hl=

FYI

Email sent to SPEC:

Hi Sales,

I'm putting a 3sgte (90-93 celica all-trac) and using a manual tranny
for the '94 5sfe.

I'm told these will be the parts I require:

5sfe clutch disk (or a custom made 3sgte disk, with the splines for the
5sfe tranny)
5sfe throwout bearing
5sfe alignment tool
3sgte pressure plate

Can you please provide the part numbers for these various parts so that when
I'm ready to buy them, I can do so easily.

Many thanks in advance,

Chanh

Response:

It is a custom kit, ST6215S for st1, ST6225S for st2, ST623H5S for st2+, etc., doing them for the same price as the 3S units, too.

Edit: Forgot to add his footer...

David Norton

S.P.E.C., inc

800-828-4379

205-491-8593-fax

sales@specclutch.com

[Silver94CelicaOw...]

So Chanh, those are the parts numbers for the individual components of one clutch, or the parts numbers for the different levels/stages of hybrid clutches they offer??

-Corey

This post has been edited by Silver94CelicaOwner: Mar 17, 2006 - 12:41 PM

[Chanh55]

So Chanh, those are the parts numbers for the individual components of one clutch, or the parts numbers for the different levels/stages of hybrid clutches they offer??

It looks like PN's for the whole kit... he puts "etc." as if we can figure out the other part numbers for the different stages.... but I'm not too sure I can. His contact info is there, someone should contact him to get a better response maybe.