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post Mar 18, 2006 - 11:35 AM
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i was looking around and it looks like if i buy a 3sge and turbo that it iwll be cheaper because if i buy a 3sgte im gonna make it a front mount intercooler and change the piping anyway im gonna change the bov and changer the turbo manifold so i think its smarter the only extra thing i have to buy is a turbo and im set since the 3sge is 500 bux and the 3sgte is 1400 i think its way smarter what do you guys say??
post Mar 18, 2006 - 12:17 PM
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not at all.
youll have to buy ALOT more than a turbo for the 3sge.
if you want a reliable turbo engine from the start, your best bet is 3sgTe.


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post Mar 18, 2006 - 12:26 PM
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word. u cant just buy a 3sge and turbo it. things need to be done to the motor so it can handle boost and run properly with boost. just get a 3sgte


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post Mar 18, 2006 - 12:32 PM
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The compression is too high on a 3sge to just slap a turbo on.


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post Mar 19, 2006 - 3:49 AM
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If you got the money to spend, then do it. It's been done before many times even with stock internals. But I wouldn't know if a boosted 3S-GE will be cheaper than a 3S-GTE.
post Mar 19, 2006 - 5:28 AM
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there are 2 turbo kits set-up for the 3s-ge from top fuel including EVERYTHING and the kit's are bolt's on and you dont have to open the machine and change the internal parts and the 2 kit is up too 400hp if i'm not wrong!!!!!


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post Mar 19, 2006 - 7:28 AM
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Turbocharge the damn thing and stop asking questions
post Mar 19, 2006 - 9:44 AM
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^^ smartest thing ever said
post Mar 19, 2006 - 10:13 AM
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Its not cheaper.

You need to get low compression pistons (3s-ge = 1:10,5 3s-gte= 1:8,5)
Stock ECU wont work, maybe with a piggyback or a standalone like megasquirt or AEM (major $$$)

Just to be short. A 3s-gte will be a lot cheaper and gives you the garantee it works. Because its made for it. I was thinking about turboing my 3s-ge but instead i got a ST205 frontcut. Saves me a lot of work and money.
BTW Stock st205 intercooler is very good in comparison to a 185 air-air.


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post Mar 19, 2006 - 10:48 AM
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maikl, can you plz post the link to top fuel...


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post Mar 19, 2006 - 12:23 PM
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QUOTE(maikl @ Mar 19, 2006 - 4:28 AM) [snapback]409917[/snapback]

there are 2 turbo kits set-up for the 3s-ge from top fuel including EVERYTHING and the kit's are bolt's on and you dont have to open the machine and change the internal parts and the 2 kit is up too 400hp if i'm not wrong!!!!!

I want you to keep in mind that maikl is talking about the newer beams 3sges.
post Mar 19, 2006 - 12:23 PM
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3sge then turbo.. not smart. Even if you go the turbo on there. I highly doubt you can run large amounts of boost. the 3sge is a really high compression motor. Its only fun when your boosting up to 20psi and it feels like your car is going to blow up biggrin.gif


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post Mar 19, 2006 - 1:50 PM
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I'll wait and see the results of this project, but damn i'd like to have a little more power. well maybe i'll just settle for one of these ...... maybe not.... rolleyes.gif


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post Mar 19, 2006 - 4:22 PM
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no i am talking for the 1994 3s-ge untill the 12/97 models i'll try to find the ling and post it...


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post Mar 20, 2006 - 11:17 AM
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I'm running a turbo'd 3rd gen 3SGE - but I'm using the turbo's pistons, so its essentially a 3SGTE. The 3SGE ECU will allow you to run low boost levels without issues.

If your planning on serious modifications, then the 3SGE can be a better route to go. Why spend $2500 on a 3rd gen 3SGTE if you plan on swapping with forged pistons, bigger injectors and bigger turbo kit? I bought a 3SGE partial clip for $900 from Jarco.


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post Mar 20, 2006 - 11:23 AM
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QUOTE(4wheelWOnder @ Mar 19, 2006 - 7:28 AM) [snapback]409923[/snapback]

Turbocharge the damn thing and stop asking questions


QUOTE(lilsteeg @ Mar 19, 2006 - 9:44 AM) [snapback]409936[/snapback]

^^ smartest thing ever said


Not trying to be a jerk, but thats how stuff gets blown up.


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post Mar 20, 2006 - 6:21 PM
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i know that running unsafe boost can ruin an engine, but i was talking about the idea to shut up and do it so as to shut everyone else up

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