1994 ST205 GT4, anyone know about model numbers, anyone know about model numbers |
1994 ST205 GT4, anyone know about model numbers, anyone know about model numbers |
Mar 20, 2006 - 1:52 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 20, '06 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I recently bought a 94 GT4, not sure what model it is, dont think its a standard bodykit anyway. The model number is ST205 0002885. If anyone can shed any light on what this refers to, it would be much appreciated.
Im a newbie to the site so hi all!! |
Mar 20, 2006 - 2:00 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 13, '05 From Poughkeepsie, NY Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
Well first off welcome.
The ST205 refers to the body of the car. GT4 is st205, US Gt is st204. but anyway, Welcome, and hope u enjoy your stay. This post has been edited by devilsden97: Mar 20, 2006 - 2:12 PM -------------------- Kawi Love |
Mar 20, 2006 - 2:04 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 16, '02 From New York Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
the ST205 is your chassis code.
Welcome here is what all that means: The first character in a sixth generation Celica chassis code will either be an "A" or an "S". This letter represents the engine family of the car. "A" would be for the A family of engines, such as the 7A-FE, and "S" would be for the S family of engines, such as the 5S-FE and the 3S-GTE. The second character represents if the car is front wheel drive or all wheel drive, or rear wheel drive. This character will be a "T" if the Celica is front wheel drive or all wheel drive, and an "A" for rear wheel drive Celicas. So for the sixth generation Celica, this character will always be a "T". The third and fourth(Or just third for rear wheel drive Celicas) characters represent the Celica generation. For all sixth generation Celicas, this will be the number "20". The fifth(Or fourth for rear wheel drive Celicas) character represents the type and engine of the Celica. Here are the codes for the sixth generation Celica: 0 - FWD - 7A-FE (USDM ST) 2 - FWD - 3S-GE / 3S-FE without AWS (JDM SS-I, SS-II, and SS-III) 3 - FWD - 3S-FE with AWS (European GT / JDM SS-I) 4 - FWD - 5S-FE (USDM GT / Canadian GT-S) 5 - AWD - 3S-GTE (European GT-4 / JDM GT-4) The sixth character is only on sixth generation Celica convertibles, and it is a "C" representing that the car is a convertible. taken from here: http://www.6gc.net/index.php?action=information&itu=3 This post has been edited by ILuvMyCelica95: Mar 20, 2006 - 2:13 PM -------------------- Buy my Celica $2,500 - http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=76562&st=0
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Mar 20, 2006 - 2:10 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 20, '06 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Thanks for the info.
I was told that the 0002885 is the individual car number and I think that the first 2500 to be made were WRC was wondering what the specification of the cars that followed the WRC |
Mar 20, 2006 - 2:17 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 13, '05 From Poughkeepsie, NY Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
I know the WRC use a different turbo. Its a WRC CT20. Very rare, very powerful.
( http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=34431 <---buy one in B/S ) as for the rest, i do not know. This post has been edited by devilsden97: Mar 20, 2006 - 2:18 PM -------------------- Kawi Love |
Mar 20, 2006 - 3:39 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 17, '05 From Auckland, New Zealand Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
The WRC spec cars differ only slightly to the standard GT-Fours. Due to homologation rules for manufacturers running in the WRC back in those day, they had to produce at least 2500 road going versions. The road going WRC has no more power than the standard car. Only power differences are between the JDM and rest of the world markets. The JDM had a different specced ECU which ran more aggressive timing due to the higher quality fuel in Japan. This gave it an extra 20bhp IIRC.
WRC car had cold start water injection, pre-rad water spray nozzlesand antilag. All these features were not activated on teh road going versions. They also came with a CT20B turbo. This turbo is not 'very powerful', it only differs from the standard GT-Four because it has a steel compressor wheel as opposed to a ceramic one. It doesn't produce more power, it just allows more boost to be run without the wheel breaking up. Spoiler blocks were also fitted to the WRC cars to raise the height of the rear wing which produced 50kg of downforce at 100km/h. A spoiler was also present on the rear edge of the bonnet which prevented the bonnet from buckling at speeds approaching 250km/h. The 2500 cars were produced within the first 5000 cars produced so a WRC spec car, could in theory, have a chassis number of 0005000. HTH and dispells a few false myths that seem to be floating around Gary -------------------- 1994 ST205 Celica GT-FOUR Group A WRC - running in new engine 1993 Rover 220 GTi tarmac rally car (under construction) 3SGE power here we come.... GT-Four spec list |
Mar 20, 2006 - 10:53 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 11, '04 From USA Currently Offline Reputation: 12 (83%) |
hey,
i have a white WRC and my chassis # is 3123 or something close to that .. mine is a true JDM spec so not to sure about europe/uk spec .. -------------------- Old guy with the toys
95 ST205 WRC (the real deal) 94 MR2 HARDTOP Supercharged 2GR/6SPD 22 owned |
Mar 21, 2006 - 12:23 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 17, '05 From Auckland, New Zealand Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(FORGMANN @ Mar 20, 2006 - 10:53 PM) [snapback]410744[/snapback] mine is a true JDM spec so not to sure about europe/uk spec .. It's either JDM spec or rest of world spec (That also includes Oz and NZ). Can't be both Gary -------------------- 1994 ST205 Celica GT-FOUR Group A WRC - running in new engine 1993 Rover 220 GTi tarmac rally car (under construction) 3SGE power here we come.... GT-Four spec list |
Mar 21, 2006 - 2:58 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 24, '04 From Moscow, russia Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Ahhh blin i miss out then
St 205........ yes JDM........... yes 1996..........yes №..............10659 -------------------- Life is for living, and you don't get a second chance Take care now !! |
Mar 23, 2006 - 8:44 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 16, '04 From UK Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(devilsden97 @ Mar 20, 2006 - 7:17 PM) [snapback]410482[/snapback] I know the WRC use a different turbo. Its a WRC CT20. Very rare, very powerful. ( http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=34431 <---buy one in B/S ) as for the rest, i do not know. You don't know about this either. Turbo is identical on all ST205s. -------------------- JDM ST205
Blitz Spec NUR Exhaust, somewhere over $1000 Needing another one 18000 miles later, bloody annoying. |
Mar 23, 2006 - 1:54 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 17, '05 From Auckland, New Zealand Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(Mr_E @ Mar 23, 2006 - 8:44 AM) [snapback]411830[/snapback] Turbo is identical on all ST205s. Err, not quite. WRC version has steel compressor wheel while 'normal' version uses ceramic. Gary -------------------- 1994 ST205 Celica GT-FOUR Group A WRC - running in new engine 1993 Rover 220 GTi tarmac rally car (under construction) 3SGE power here we come.... GT-Four spec list |
Mar 24, 2006 - 5:48 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 16, '04 From UK Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(GT4WRC @ Mar 23, 2006 - 6:54 PM) [snapback]411934[/snapback] QUOTE(Mr_E @ Mar 23, 2006 - 8:44 AM) [snapback]411830[/snapback] Turbo is identical on all ST205s. Err, not quite. WRC version has steel compressor wheel while 'normal' version uses ceramic. Gary Nope. As far as I understand, european cars have normal standard compressors. JDM cars can have ceramics to reduce lag, although I've never discovered if they all do. I don't know if JDM WRC spec cars had ceramic or standard impellors. It's a minor change to the turbo. If anything, ceramics are superior for lag reduction, but potentially shatter at very high boost.... I'm not even sure what I have under the bonnet. -------------------- JDM ST205
Blitz Spec NUR Exhaust, somewhere over $1000 Needing another one 18000 miles later, bloody annoying. |
Mar 24, 2006 - 8:22 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 24, '06 From Slough,Berkshire,UK Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I have a wrc and can confirm that they do indeed have ceramic blades (as I manged to break them and snap the shaft ) one of the easiest ways to spot a WRC is under the bonnet they have a black canister which sits next to the charge cooler, this is anti lag although isn't functional and will trash the turbo in no time if you reconnect it.
Thanks Nathan -------------------- 1994 JDM ST205 WRC with 17" OZ Chrono's wearing 215/45/17 Eagle F1's. HKS Induction Kit, Blitz DV, Decat and full SS System, Blitz SBC-iD and Power Meter running at 1.12Bar = 17mpg and a lot of fun
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Mar 24, 2006 - 3:37 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 17, '05 From Auckland, New Zealand Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
My car is essentially a European spec GT4 (NZ new models came via Oz) and has the steel internals. The JDM normal 205s which have been imported here have ceramic internals - just like the MR2s. WRC spec CT20Bs are highly sought after here and fetch a very good price on the 2nd hand market.
Gary This post has been edited by GT4WRC: Mar 24, 2006 - 3:38 PM -------------------- 1994 ST205 Celica GT-FOUR Group A WRC - running in new engine 1993 Rover 220 GTi tarmac rally car (under construction) 3SGE power here we come.... GT-Four spec list |
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