No GT4's in the US? Options

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

The cobalt ss is no better than that damned srt-4

I'm pretty sure both these cars have Japanese influence. That's why I don't consider them. I know the SRT-4 has had a lot more builds than the Ecotec 4cylinder. But that Ecotech is really building a racing reputation. That thing is nice. But, I still think it doesn't count as a true American engine. And there will never again be a true American engine due to so much convergence in manufactures.

no no no no, the corvette it a verry well engineered car but the viper and saleen s7 are better, oh and the 5.0 plus is wrong the mustang rocks a 4.6

The Corvette is better than both the Viper and the Saleen S7 and the GT40. It's about cost effectiveness and what not. For the money, the Vette is a great car, especially now. The older ones weren't too great. You'll hear guys yack about the big block Vettes. That's a 454cupic inch 7.4 liter motor in that car. As far as the little 4.6 Mustang, they weren't so great. I don't hear a lot of Ford guys bragging about them. Most of the time they just want a bigger V8 in there. A 4.6 isn't much for an American V8. I'm no expert though, that's for sure. I only know what I've heard.

[trd94]

Im aware that they are japanese made motors, i was just stating the motors that are available here in the u.s, and youre right the u.s market has nothing to compare to this motor....and please somebody dont say that the supercharged ecotec motor or the peon srt-4 motor is comparable to these motors....

true the srt-4 motor is easily tunable but will never be as reliable

i totally agree

[fastgt]

actually the legalizing of the skylines is no longer true...except for the r33....story is here

http://www.350zmotoring.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38173

[dans_st]

So far as importing the GT-4 I could have it shipped with the motor removed and then get the motor shipped separetaly, THEN when they get here RE-install the engine and I have a complete GT-4 that is not registered and not DOT approved to drive here-Right???

Couldn't I just switch the VIN and chassis code plates from my celica to the GT-4, move my already registered plates, and inspection sticker to the GT-4 and just drive it that way??

I have switched VIN's and other tags on old chevy's and used the title that I had on a better condition cab/body, So couldn't it be done with the GT-4?

and as far as the emmisions I get my car inspected and don't have a cat or any other emmisions related product on my car as it is, along with NON-d.o.t. approved JDM taillights- SO is this possible??

And how much would it cost for the car and engine as well as the separate shipping?

[alexjb]

My Celica is in the UK, while I'm in Japan on business.
I been liiking into JDM tails and projectors... but that's a different story

I'm in Sagamihara and I get the buss to the CAT plant each day, on the way I pass a dealer (went to have a look) with a Skyline GTR 80K Km for 840000yen = 4200quid = 7600bucks, thats a lot of car for not a lot of money.
Us guys in the UK pay over the ods for second hand import jap cars to be imported, you guys in the US get ass F*^ed!

[bloodrain]

So far as importing the GT-4 I could have it shipped with the motor removed and then get the motor shipped separetaly, THEN when they get here RE-install the engine and I have a complete GT-4 that is not registered and not DOT approved to drive here-Right???

Couldn't I just switch the VIN and chassis code plates from my celica to the GT-4, move my already registered plates, and inspection sticker to the GT-4 and just drive it that way??

I have switched VIN's and other tags on old chevy's and used the title that I had on a better condition cab/body, So couldn't it be done with the GT-4?

and as far as the emmisions I get my car inspected and don't have a cat or any other emmisions related product on my car as it is, along with NON-d.o.t. approved JDM taillights- SO is this possible??

And how much would it cost for the car and engine as well as the separate shipping?

yes you COULD do that, but search a little bit, there was another thread about importing them. Basically if you have an illegally imported car in the U.S. and they find out, your car gets destroyed on the spot, no questions asked. (Not literally on the spot, they tow it and then take care of it)

[bloodrain]

Us guys in the UK pay over the ods for second hand import jap cars to be imported, you guys in the US get ass F*^ed!

and thats actually being polite.

[CelicaST204]

I hear that there is suppose to a 6th gen GT-FOUR at Import Face-Off april 2. at Red River Raceway. I seriously doubt that. maybe someone got the 93 confused with being a 6th gen. but since i live 30 mins. away from there, i'm going. If it turns out to be true, then i will die a happy man, seeing my dream car in person. I will fill up my digi cam with gt-four picks. screw the silvia and r33. i'll be with the celica god all day. lol

[crismillencolin]

So does it make you guys jealous i could go buy a few GT4 awd's today LOL - sorry

I dont understand how if the car can be ok for the rest of the world but not ok for america ? Surely the differnencs in regulatons arent that tight that a TOYOTA cant be allowed ??

[Jeremy1210]

IT comes down the thes testing. Like the glass isn't DOT approved and neither are the headlights. Amybe some body, but not really IMO

[bloodrain]

So does it make you guys jealous i could go buy a few GT4 awd's today LOL - sorry

I dont understand how if the car can be ok for the rest of the world but not ok for america ? Surely the differnencs in regulatons arent that tight that a TOYOTA cant be allowed ??

cant say im jealous, I would like one, but its nothing to be jealous about. I think im finally getting out of the tuner scene, some guy the other day while I was driving was looking at my car and was like WOW, WHAT IS THAT. IS THAT A MUSTANG!! and i was just like oh god, where did i ever go wrong :-(

[JFrost9]

cant say im jealous, I would like one, but its nothing to be jealous about. I think im finally getting out of the tuner scene, some guy the other day while I was driving was looking at my car and was like WOW, WHAT IS THAT. IS THAT A MUSTANG!! and i was just like oh god, where did i ever go wrong :-(

Thats enough to make any grown man cry. I think the money you would spend in geting a GT-4 upgraded, and then actually legalizing it would be enough to just buy a 3sgte and do some kinda AWD swap... I think dan had something going there, about switching all the tags and VINs and what not. Ive heard of people doing that for skylines, only it was a little different.

This post has been edited by JFrost9: Mar 25, 2006 - 3:06 PM

[lilsteeg]

The cobalt ss is no better than that damned srt-4

I'm pretty sure both these cars have Japanese influence. That's why I don't consider them. I know the SRT-4 has had a lot more builds than the Ecotec 4cylinder. But that Ecotech is really building a racing reputation. That thing is nice. But, I still think it doesn't count as a true American engine. And there will never again be a true American engine due to so much convergence in manufactures.

no no no no, the corvette it a verry well engineered car but the viper and saleen s7 are better, oh and the 5.0 plus is wrong the mustang rocks a 4.6

The Corvette is better than both the Viper and the Saleen S7 and the GT40. It's about cost effectiveness and what not. For the money, the Vette is a great car, especially now. The older ones weren't too great. You'll hear guys yack about the big block Vettes. That's a 454cupic inch 7.4 liter motor in that car. As far as the little 4.6 Mustang, they weren't so great. I don't hear a lot of Ford guys bragging about them. Most of the time they just want a bigger V8 in there. A 4.6 isn't much for an American V8. I'm no expert though, that's for sure. I only know what I've heard.

better engineered than a saleen s7 what, that happens to be the most aerodynamicly efficent production car ever. and the viper is way better engineered now-a-days, test drivers say it can corner like an elise, plus the heads were designed by lamborghini hello, and the new 4.6 in the mustang is 300 hp, i think that is enough

[95CelicaST]

There is a guy in my town somewhere with an R32 GTR. Champagne with a big Nismo intercooler and deep-dish wheels. I would have sex with that car.

[lilsteeg]

i know that in my little town we have an r33, a few supras, and i have heard from my friends that there is a black gt4, i dont know if this is true but i asked if it looked similar to mine, but was all wheel drive and turbo and they said yes.

[CelicaST204]

Turns out at Import Face-Off april 2nd, It was a 5th gen all-trac. . I'm pissed. I was hoping to see my #1 dream car. Oh well.....one day it will happen.

[3rdgen3s95]

Dont move to a country because of cars...Thats like moving to another state for a girl you like, but arent married or engaged too...We also have the Eclipse that they dont have

[3rdgen3s95]

There is a guy in my town somewhere with an R32 GTR. Champagne with a big Nismo intercooler and deep-dish wheels. I would have sex with that car.

Yeah, in seattle there are about 10 skylines, 1 i know is a GTR R34, blue, and then there is a silver GTR R33, and about 7 GTR R32s...Kent has a Evo VII, and there is a RHD MR2 Turbo...Some imported Silvias as well

[sinner96ST]

quoting myself from other thread :

Certain cars that were released only in Japan and other countries besides the US, fail to meet emissions/crash test/road safety standards here in the states.

So, basically, our government believes because the car wasn't released here, it isn't safe to drive here. You have to spend insane amounts of money to get it legal, so much so that it really isn't worth the time or effort.

I think it's possible to disassemble a GT4, ship it here, then reassemble it. Swap out the VIN from an identical year celica which has been junked (salvaged) and consider your reassembled GT4 with a junk title. This wouldn't be easy, and if you got caught, you'd probably be in deep ****, but it's really the only way to get one over here, unless you "know" people.

The Skyline can be imported, and made legal in the states, asking price for one of them was between $80,000 - $100,000.

Start saving your lunch money.

This post has been edited by sinner96ST: Apr 9, 2006 - 5:15 PM

[hurley97]

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import/

theres actually a list of cars that have been pre-approved for importation
and the GT-4 is not on it.

I've read a lot from that site before and if i remember correctly and they havnt changed it you have to:

1. get a registered importer to submit an application for DOT approval
(this includes crash tests or a statement from the company saying the car is up to US safety standards)

2. you pay 150% of the price of the car for the application
(so say you buy a $4,000 US car, you pay $4k for the car itself and $6k for the application[i think] for a grand total [so far] of $10 grand for a 4 grand car and it hasnt even left its home country yet)

3. then you have it shipped which isnt as expensive as you think
(under $1k to have it just rolled on/off and well over $1k to put it in a container[again, this is just what i remember])

4. then the registered importer recieves it and it belongs to them until it is DOT legalized
(meaning it can pass inspection. even little things like the seatbelts, airbags, speedometer, etc. have to be changed which must cost insane amounts of cash)

5. then you have to get it registered (the DMV is a bitch)

but when its legal its legal
there are a few on this site (like 1 or 2)
http://www.6gc.net/index.php?action=members&itu=3245
^legal and registered in NH
http://www.6gc.net/index.php?action=members&itu=1509
^not legalized in IN

there are a couple r34 skylines around the western US ive heard
the R33 is on the already approved list but im sure registered importers will take advantage of how much your willing to pay for one and charge big money for it anyway.

This post has been edited by hurley97: Apr 14, 2006 - 2:57 PM