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post Mar 29, 2006 - 10:00 AM
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Let me start off with i didnt know where to post this cuz i dont know what went wrong with my car and I also did not try to do the following. and i do not think driving like this should be condoned if intentional!

so i had just gotten done with my morning workout and was driving home. I took a left turn like I normally do with a bit of speed but nothing outrageous. Just wanted to make the light. Next thing I know my car is whipping around and I ended up doing a 270. (3/4th of a whole turn) im sitting there thinking "just dont let me hit a car or a curb" but it came out really smoothly. I sit there for a second and im like what just happened so then i get myself facing towards the way i wanted to go and then took off towards home. now my question is:


Is it my rear tires? My front ones are new so maybe the rear are just not following with the car? i dont know. At that moment I wasnt scared but afterwards i was like OH CRAP how did i do that and why did it happen and thank god i didnt hit anyone, any car, or any curbs!

can someone please tell me whats causing my car to lose control? besides the driver.. cuz like i said ive taken this corner and others at the speed i was doing and its only been lately that i feel the car is losing control mid turns. I guess it just wants to be a RWD car and go drifting :-) aww i wish!

so please dont flame me for what i did. it wasnt intentional and the speed was really not excessive though it probably was a factor that played a role in todays event.


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post Mar 29, 2006 - 11:11 AM
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nat, are your rear tires worn?
that "could" help the rear end come around like that.


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post Mar 29, 2006 - 12:44 PM
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Happens all the time!:P
nah really, the celica's rear can be very unpredictable at times, and yes, if your tires are very worn it just adds to it.
post Mar 29, 2006 - 12:45 PM
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Sounds like wore out rear tires and going to fast around corners.


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post Mar 29, 2006 - 2:30 PM
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Nat wasnt your car pulling to one side? My car was pulling to the right and i ignored it and it ended up wearing my tires out and almost lost control. Check your tread.


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post Mar 29, 2006 - 2:33 PM
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That happened to me on a highway on-ramp once. Slightly wet road and rear tires were worn.


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post Mar 29, 2006 - 2:36 PM
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QUOTE(ILuvMyCelica95 @ Mar 29, 2006 - 11:30 AM) [snapback]415181[/snapback]

Nat wasnt your car pulling to one side? My car was pulling to the right and i ignored it and it ended up wearing my tires out and almost lost control. Check your tread.



car doesnt pull to one particular side..i believe its cuz i have lo pros and a lowered car that it just goes where ever it wants to go cuz the freeways here in WA arent the best. but im in a microsoft level 3 class right now so i cant check the rear and probably wont be able to till i get home this evening since im in a parking garage..but damn the exhaust sounds good in the garage! wish i could take some sound clips!

thanks for not flaming yall! i dont ever even pull the ebrake to do this kind of stuff cuz im too scared of what may happen.


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post Mar 29, 2006 - 3:11 PM
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Thats what happened to my prelude (r.i.p) roundabout i use every day slightly too fast (90'ish mph) back end came round i dont know what i did but it flicked and went the other way , i remember thinking " wow , if anyones watching i bet they think i look cool as fcuk" -LOL-Twat - CRUNcH....lapmpost slowed me down quite suddenly....biggrin.gif young and silly . you got off lucky - slow it tongue.gifwink.gif


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post Mar 29, 2006 - 3:15 PM
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My tires are completly worn, no more then 1,0mm of profile left. (waiting on my new rims + tires later this week) I still can drive through any curve with no problem. Im really amazed by these tires how good they are. AVON ZZ3 215/45/17. Never heard of a Celica getting its rearend whipped biggrin.gif


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post Mar 29, 2006 - 3:23 PM
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QUOTE(crismillencolin @ Mar 29, 2006 - 12:11 PM) [snapback]415197[/snapback]

Thats what happened to my prelude (r.i.p) roundabout i use every day slightly too fast (90'ish mph) back end came round i dont know what i did but it flicked and went the other way , i remember thinking " wow , if anyones watching i bet they think i look cool as fcuk" -LOL-Twat - CRUNcH....lapmpost slowed me down quite suddenly....biggrin.gif young and silly . you got off lucky - slow it tongue.gifwink.gif



yeah i know im very lucky! i was not doing close to 90...if i had to guesstimate (haha dane cook) i would say i was doing 50 max..i dont know that it just happened so quick. it felt like a dream cuz it came off so smooth! i hope i gave a few people something to talk about. damn the honda guy for catching my attention during that turn. Usually if ive ever had any problem the car will just slide a bit over on the road but its never whipped around like that


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post Mar 29, 2006 - 3:30 PM
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That just happened to me last week. I was doing a u turn under an overpass and my rear came loose... luckily my car didnt hit the near by guard-rail. It ended up being my rear tires. Celicas already have a pretty light rear so when the tires start to get low tread on them, it only makes it that much worse. All new tires on now! biggrin.gif Got some new Fuzion ZRi tires on and it seems to handle really well.


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post Mar 29, 2006 - 3:59 PM
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its called


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post Mar 29, 2006 - 4:31 PM
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dont get me excited with that word! i love driftin and it did take me back to the summer when id go with my ex and go drifting! damn i gotta get me another drifting boyfriend


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post Mar 29, 2006 - 6:49 PM
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Get a thicker rear sway


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post Mar 29, 2006 - 7:48 PM
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QUOTE(BlackCelicaGT94 @ Mar 29, 2006 - 7:00 AM) [snapback]415046[/snapback]

Is it my rear tires? My front ones are new so maybe the rear are just not following with the car? i dont know. At that moment I wasnt scared but afterwards i was like OH CRAP how did i do that and why did it happen and thank god i didnt hit anyone, any car, or any curbs!

can someone please tell me whats causing my car to lose control? besides the driver.. cuz like i said ive taken this corner and others at the speed i was doing and its only been lately that i feel the car is losing control mid turns. I guess it just wants to be a RWD car and go drifting :-) aww i wish!


It sounds like what happened to you was oversteer. generally, unless something is wrong with your car (like popped or worn tires), what your car does is a direct result of your input. again, something could be wrong with your car, but more than likely, it was a machine simply following your input of speed and cornering. the contact patch of a tire can only do so much at once, and that turn at that speed called for more than 100% of tire tread. go karting can help you learn to control oversteer and understeer, or you can take a safety/roadracing class to learn how to handle emergencies.
post Mar 29, 2006 - 9:49 PM
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Regular brakes in a corner will act like an e-brake
if the fronts are worn worse than the rear. Ur dad
was a racer I think I heard once so you prolly know
not to brake in a corner.


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post Mar 29, 2006 - 10:02 PM
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Yeah i did that on the onramp to I-5 off balanger way once, slick road and worn tires, well check the tire tread and if your not sure try taking it to an open parking lot and doing some sharp turns see if it happens again could have just been something on the road like a puddle of oil or water, or even sand or something.

nice to hear you and your car maid it though the driftage safely

(side note: I've seen you on the road like 3-4 times the last few weeks on 124th, I wave sometimes, but I'm rocking the big green minivan so I doubt you would notice.)
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but im in a microsoft level 3 class right now

what is a level 3 class, like for a cert? what are they teaching? and it might help to pay attention in class tongue.gif

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you prolly know not to brake in a corner.

actualy if you break in a corner (with good tires tongue.gif ) the weight transer would give you more grip, but also would shift weight off the rears allowing the back to slide easyer.

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post Mar 29, 2006 - 10:40 PM
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was it wet?? when i take corners at a decent speed, my rear end wants to slide a bit


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post Mar 30, 2006 - 12:38 AM
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found out what it was - i had 12 pounds in a rear tire! got a nail in it!

sorry Creis - i havent seen ya! A scion guy said hes seen me like 3 times this week as well

Level 3 was teaching macros, mail merge and editing techniques. i knew it all but macros and screw that those are a mess.



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post Mar 31, 2006 - 1:03 AM
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i havent seen ya!

1 good thing about the van is its a very nice blender-in-er

macro's, as in macroing fucntions, thats a big time saver, kinda like making hot keys to do stuff for ya. very usefull if your doing alot of document crap.


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