ST205 3SGTE with MR2T E153 tranny, some interrogations Options

[HaRv3sTeR]

Im planning to buy a ST205 front clip with a MR2T E153 tranny + LSD to do a swap. But i have some questions for those who use a E153 from the MR2T with their 3rd gen 3SGTE and I want 100% sure answers (ive ask those questions to Doc Tweek but he's not sure since he never used E153 with his swaps). So..

1. can you tell me if the MR2T (with LSD) tranny will work with all ST205 front axles?

2.if not, which one from the MR2T I need (please be specific, example: rear/front ,left/right, w/ABS or not,inner/outer)?
(im asking that since the engine from he MR2T is at the rear and celi is in front..so im not sure which is the one i need...also...on some sites..i see axles for ABS and some for non-ABS....my car has ABS so I choose with ABS right?)

3.do you see any more parts that ill need to buy to complete the swap (keep in mind that im auto and ill use all parts that the front clip will offer me)


TIA

[jgreening]

Im planning to buy a ST205 front clip with a MR2T E153 tranny + LSD to do a swap. But i have some questions for those who use a E153 from the MR2T with their 3rd gen 3SGTE and I want 100% sure answers (ive ask those questions to Doc Tweek but he's not sure since he never used E153 with his swaps). So..

1. can you tell me if the MR2T (with LSD) tranny will work with all ST205 front axles?

Not 100% sure on this one but I would say ST205 outters "should" work in place of ST185 outters.

2.if not, which one from the MR2T I need (please be specific, example: rear/front ,left/right, w/ABS or not,inner/outer)?
(im asking that since the engine from he MR2T is at the rear and celi is in front..so im not sure which is the one i need...

Well, since the MR2 is a MR, the drive axels are in the rear, so you would need those for the inner axels.

also...on some sites..i see axles for ABS and some for non-ABS....my car has ABS so I choose with ABS right?)

correct

3.do you see any more parts that ill need to buy to complete the swap (keep in mind that im auto and ill use all parts that the front clip will offer me)

If you search, you will find all the information you need on this one.

[Kadett]

Is far is i know you need the MR2T Axles and ST205 axles wont fit.
I also read somewhere that when you use the MR2T trans you need to custom make an engine mount (rear one??)

Since you have an auto trans now you need (which wont be on the front cut):
Shifter assembley (directly go for the TRD shortshifter)
Shifter cables

[HaRv3sTeR]

Since you have an auto trans now you need (which wont be on the front cut):
Shifter assembley (directly go for the TRD shortshifter)
Shifter cables

i though those would be in the clip

[Kadett]

Since you have an auto trans now you need (which wont be on the front cut):
Shifter assembley (directly go for the TRD shortshifter)
Shifter cables

i though those would be in the clip

Frontclip is usually a cut from the firewall. So everything from there is missing. I dont think the leave the shifter cables intact.

[afroman]

depends where you order your clip from, ive seen clips that have the dash intact with shifter assembly and all.
-Aaron-

[Rjb23]

Im planning to buy a ST205 front clip with a MR2T E153 tranny + LSD to do a swap. But i have some questions for those who use a E153 from the MR2T with their 3rd gen 3SGTE and I want 100% sure answers (ive ask those questions to Doc Tweek but he's not sure since he never used E153 with his swaps). So..

1. can you tell me if the MR2T (with LSD) tranny will work with all ST205 front axles?

Nope you need st185 axles the 205 axles don't bolt together like 185 and mr2 axles.

2.if not, which one from the MR2T I need (please be specific, example: rear/front ,left/right, w/ABS or not,inner/outer)?
(im asking that since the engine from he MR2T is at the rear and celi is in front..so im not sure which is the one i need...also...on some sites..i see axles for ABS and some for non-ABS....my car has ABS so I choose with ABS right?)
You need the rear axles from what ever year the tranny is from. ABS shouldn't matter because all you are doing is using the inner part of the axle, but get ABS just to be safe.

3.do you see any more parts that ill need to buy to complete the swap (keep in mind that im auto and ill use all parts that the front clip will offer me)
You need all the parts for an auto to manual swap, cluth pedal cables etc... do a search for this.

TIA

[scothaniel]

You need the rear axles from what ever year the tranny is from

Also, the drivers side inner axles are different for the LSD trans. I had a non-lsd axle in a lsd equiped trans and it leaked badly. The passenger side doesnt matter.

So its MR2 inners matching the trans (lsd or non-lsd) and 90-93 Celica ST185 outers to match the hub (abs or non-abs)

[Supersprynt]

You need the rear axles from what ever year the tranny is from

Also, the drivers side inner axles are different for the LSD trans. I had a non-lsd axle in a lsd equiped trans and it leaked badly. The passenger side doesnt matter.

So its MR2 inners matching the trans (lsd or non-lsd) and 90-93 Celica ST185 outers to match the hub (abs or non-abs)

I have the opposite. I have a non-lsd passenger side in my TRD lsd and it leaks badly, drivers side is fine.

Basically the rule of thumb is get the axles with the tranny you have.

[HaRv3sTeR]

thx guys

this is really helping!

another question: is the "short axle problem" only for passenger side?

This post has been edited by HaRv3sTeR: Mar 27, 2006 - 11:30 AM

[Supersprynt]

Yeah. I'll be working on that short axle thing this weekend I'll take some pics of the axle apart and what not.

[Rjb23]

If your useing the carrier bearing and bracket the passenger side axle should never pop out, its the driverside you have to worry about.

[madmods]

Another great post guys! I'm doing my homework.

[burneeed]

this is debated so many times. This is why next week I should have pictures + an entire write up of a e153 swap. I had to get so many parts from an solara for my e153 like the shift actuator and all kinds of shifter cable parts. Ill post all the parts later. But here is what you will have to do. If you are using all st205 mounts your good on mounts. For the tranny you will need a shift actuator from a solara plus the whole shifter assembly. Now for the axles you will need mr2 lsd turbo axles (good luck expect to spend some good money on these) And alltrac outers and you should be good.

[Green_MachToy]

Since you have an auto trans now you need (which wont be on the front cut):
Shifter assembley (directly go for the TRD shortshifter)
Shifter cables

i though those would be in the clip

Frontclip is usually a cut from the firewall. So everything from there is missing. I dont think the leave the shifter cables intact.

My front clip had the cables intact as it was cut at the ashtray.

[Supersprynt]

I have 90-92 OEM LSD MR2 Inner shafts if you need them

[HaRv3sTeR]

I have 90-92 OEM LSD MR2 Inner shafts if you need them

I dont need them...but just a question: do they fit on 93+ MR2T tranny?

[Supersprynt]

No thats the entire problem I'm having right now. I had to go find 93+ LSDs which are hard to find and expensive because I had 91 OEM LSDs.