crazy idea, H22 |
crazy idea, H22 |
Apr 6, 2006 - 10:48 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 18, '06 From NB, Canada Currently Offline Reputation: 12 (100%) |
I was thinking about that..crazy idea... how hard could it possibly be to drop a Honda H22 in a 6th gen?
With its lightweight body that thing would be crazy . I think most problems would come with the shifter linkages and finding some kinda way to make the axels fit... -------------------- -Rémy 02 SiR, 08 250R |
Apr 6, 2006 - 11:20 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
Originality sure but the motor has 200hp w/165lbs of torque and costs more than a 2nd gen 3sgte so I'd opt for the easier, more powerful swap.
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Apr 6, 2006 - 11:20 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
QUOTE(Rayme @ Apr 6, 2006 - 11:48 AM) [snapback]418419[/snapback] I was thinking about that..crazy idea... how hard could it possibly be to drop a Honda H22 in a 6th gen? With its lightweight body that thing would be crazy . I think most problems would come with the shifter linkages and finding some kinda way to make the axels fit... no.....a celica look like a civic to you *end rant* |
Apr 6, 2006 - 11:24 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 18, '06 From NB, Canada Currently Offline Reputation: 12 (100%) |
QUOTE(playr158 @ Apr 6, 2006 - 1:20 PM) [snapback]418429[/snapback] QUOTE(Rayme @ Apr 6, 2006 - 11:48 AM) [snapback]418419[/snapback] I was thinking about that..crazy idea... how hard could it possibly be to drop a Honda H22 in a 6th gen? With its lightweight body that thing would be crazy . I think most problems would come with the shifter linkages and finding some kinda way to make the axels fit... no.....a celica look like a civic to you *end rant* Lol, when was last time civics came with H22s -------------------- -Rémy 02 SiR, 08 250R |
Apr 6, 2006 - 12:43 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 6, '03 From huntingdon tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
correction then.... we dont mix honda's and toyota's around here
NO honda motor should ever be swapped in a celica - it is no crappy prelude/JDM accord thanks very much - -------------------- |
Apr 6, 2006 - 2:29 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 15, '05 From Frederick, Maryland Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (75%) |
yeah helllllll no!!!!!!!!!!! there will be no mixing up engines here IMO i think the ae86 with the f20 is gay and the mrs with the k20 is gay soooooooo therefore the 6th gen celica with a h22 is super gay!!!!!!! but honestly if you want to do it i dont want to see it done on these forums go do it in some civic forum because toyotas with toyotas OK HONDA with HONDA OK (even though not my choice) but NEVER EVER mix and match!!!!!!!!!!!! plus who would want to trade the 3sgte for a h22????????? well NOT ME!!!! ...........
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Apr 6, 2006 - 2:40 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 19, '05 From New York Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
i wouldnt cause a h22 is about 3 grand.. at least by me, so therefore why not 3s?
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Apr 6, 2006 - 3:00 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 22, '05 From STL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
why waste money on that when you could just by a cheap CRX about $500 put gut it to about 1500lbs then put the h22 for about $1500 and have low 13 second car
or you could just stick to the celica -------------------- 7a-fte in progress
still need a manifold, fuel pump, greddy e-manage, and oil lines / water lines |
Apr 6, 2006 - 4:17 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 18, '06 From NB, Canada Currently Offline Reputation: 12 (100%) |
QUOTE(yungazzdriver @ Apr 6, 2006 - 4:29 PM) [snapback]418494[/snapback] yeah helllllll no!!!!!!!!!!! there will be no mixing up engines here IMO i think the ae86 with the f20 is gay and the mrs with the k20 is gay soooooooo therefore the 6th gen celica with a h22 is super gay!!!!!!! but honestly if you want to do it i dont want to see it done on these forums go do it in some civic forum because toyotas with toyotas OK HONDA with HONDA OK (even though not my choice) but NEVER EVER mix and match!!!!!!!!!!!! plus who would want to trade the 3sgte for a h22????????? well NOT ME!!!! ........... Wow, how many kids are on these board? I see 3 in this thread! I wouldn't trade a 3sgte for a h22 either, but I don't have a 3sgte, just a 5s-fe. I thought I'd get more technical answers than opinions driven rants, what you know? Maybe I already have a h22 laying around(free). Mechanic is mechanic, doesn't matter what's stamped on the peices. I feel some negative views on hondas, why so...I didnt even nearly mentionned a civic to start with! This post has been edited by Rayme: Apr 6, 2006 - 4:19 PM -------------------- -Rémy 02 SiR, 08 250R |
Apr 6, 2006 - 4:28 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
your getting flamed....because you want to put a HONDA motor in a TOYOTA.....
#1) the cost of it and the amount of custom work needed isn't worth it when you have far better options... #2) the wiring is practically incompatable.. and would take waaaaay too many hours to make it worth it.... so you want to spend more money, more time and more effort to get something most anyone in the car community would NOT condone and is SLOWER and weaker then your current optioins where does that make sense? |
Apr 6, 2006 - 4:42 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 18, '06 From NB, Canada Currently Offline Reputation: 12 (100%) |
QUOTE(playr158 @ Apr 6, 2006 - 6:28 PM) [snapback]418518[/snapback] your getting flamed....because you want to put a HONDA motor in a TOYOTA..... #1) the cost of it and the amount of custom work needed isn't worth it when you have far better options... #2) the wiring is practically incompatable.. and would take waaaaay too many hours to make it worth it.... so you want to spend more money, more time and more effort to get something most anyone in the car community would NOT condone and is SLOWER and weaker then your current optioins where does that make sense? You are wrong, honda guys would just be happy to see a honda engine in a toyota, and In my regional automotive forum(non car specific) I actually got support, real car guys. And whatever you say, any flaming has no reasons to be. -------------------- -Rémy 02 SiR, 08 250R |
Apr 6, 2006 - 6:20 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 29, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Real car guys? What are we? Fake car guys? You even said it yourself... "Crazy Idea" and that's exactly what it is... but I'm a fake car guy so why would it matter...
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Apr 6, 2006 - 6:22 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
You can get an H22A for about 2k, not a clip but an engine. The wiring is not incompatible, and you can probably figure out a way to do it but you'd most likely need custom axles and definately custom mounting and a whole bunch of custom work which would drive the price up more and more.
For the price you will end up spending you can put a 3rd gen 3s and have way more fun. -------------------- |
Apr 6, 2006 - 6:27 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 30, '04 From So Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
I don't know anything about tech spec. But hearing a HONDA engine into our fine CELICA. It's just doesn't sound right..
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Apr 6, 2006 - 7:19 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 1, '03 From WV Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
You could probably pick up an H23 easier. I wouldn't mind seeing that in a Celica. Those chevy V8 guys like to put them in everything, so why can't some imports mix and match. I've seen a SR20 power RX-7 once. It's fun to mix and match. Lets not lose sight of what is really important here, having fun and going fast. Seriously though, and H23 wouldn't be too bad. You'd have to do custom mounts and all that, but with a clip, I'm sure it wouldn't that hard. Custom axles too. I'm not sure if it's really worth it. The only this I could see is the fact that there is a lot of parts for it, more so than a 3sge. And if you wanted a high hp NA, it would be the way to go.
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Apr 6, 2006 - 7:45 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 14, '05 Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
The only problem I can see is the cost, time, and lots of fabrication.
If you really want go for it! I had a similar crazy idea.. a EK Hatch with a 3sgte More and more tuned cars are getting some freakswaps LS1/LT1 RX7 Domestic V8 in MKII Supra/280Z F20 Corolla 2JZGTE 240SX Bla bla bla.. all I know is that their unique and the owner goes with what he wants. Not the crown. Strong form of individuality |
Apr 6, 2006 - 7:49 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 7, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 55 (100%) |
When individualists break stuff its hard to get replacement
parts. -------------------- JDM guy made me do it.
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Apr 6, 2006 - 8:02 PM |
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Administrator Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
You guys complaining about Honda motors in Toyotas just because they're Honda motors are ridiculous. Quit flaming people because you have a grudge against Hondas
I'd love to have a K20 (or even a H22a or a B-series motor) in my Celica...Toyota doesn't make a N/A motor that's on the same level as the K20a in stock form. Plus I love the way Honda trannies feel...much better than the C-series and S-series transmissions in my opinion. Sure, if you don't want a N/A monster, the 3S-GTE is a good choice, but light, N/A cars are incredibly fun, especially with powerful N/A motors like the K20a. That said, it'd be a ton of work...the K20a is quite different from the B/H-series motors, so I won't even go into that, but the H22/B-series motors have the engine and transmission on opposite sides of the Celica. For that reason, maybe a swap such as a Nissan SR20VE might be easier if you wanted something N/A and incredibly unique. -------------------- New Toyota project coming soon...
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Apr 6, 2006 - 8:19 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 20, '05 From Hermitage, Pennsylvania Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
QUOTE(jdg371 @ Apr 6, 2006 - 7:45 PM) [snapback]418586[/snapback] The only problem I can see is the cost, time, and lots of fabrication. If you really want go for it! I had a similar crazy idea.. a EK Hatch with a 3sgte More and more tuned cars are getting some freakswaps LS1/LT1 RX7 Domestic V8 in MKII Supra/280Z F20 Corolla 2JZGTE 240SX Bla bla bla.. all I know is that their unique and the owner goes with what he wants. Not the crown. Strong form of individuality my neighbor has a 383 stroker in hes 88 rx7 that thing is a jet |
Apr 6, 2006 - 8:26 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 18, '06 From NB, Canada Currently Offline Reputation: 12 (100%) |
QUOTE(Chanh55 @ Apr 6, 2006 - 8:20 PM) [snapback]418549[/snapback] Real car guys? What are we? Fake car guys? You even said it yourself... "Crazy Idea" and that's exactly what it is... but I'm a fake car guy so why would it matter... I treated them of kids. Certainly you seem to approve such behavior. QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Apr 6, 2006 - 9:19 PM) [snapback]418577[/snapback] Lets not lose sight of what is really important here, having fun and going fast. Riight on the nail bros. -------------------- -Rémy 02 SiR, 08 250R |
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