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post Apr 6, 2006 - 10:48 AM
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I was thinking about that..crazy idea... how hard could it possibly be to drop a Honda H22 in a 6th gen?

With its lightweight body that thing would be crazy smile.gif . I think most problems would come with the shifter linkages and finding some kinda way to make the axels fit...


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post Apr 6, 2006 - 11:20 AM
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Originality sure but the motor has 200hp w/165lbs of torque and costs more than a 2nd gen 3sgte so I'd opt for the easier, more powerful swap.


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post Apr 6, 2006 - 11:20 AM
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QUOTE(Rayme @ Apr 6, 2006 - 11:48 AM) [snapback]418419[/snapback]

I was thinking about that..crazy idea... how hard could it possibly be to drop a Honda H22 in a 6th gen?

With its lightweight body that thing would be crazy smile.gif . I think most problems would come with the shifter linkages and finding some kinda way to make the axels fit...


no.....IPB Imagea celica look like a civic to youIPB Image

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post Apr 6, 2006 - 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(playr158 @ Apr 6, 2006 - 1:20 PM) [snapback]418429[/snapback]
QUOTE(Rayme @ Apr 6, 2006 - 11:48 AM) [snapback]418419[/snapback]

I was thinking about that..crazy idea... how hard could it possibly be to drop a Honda H22 in a 6th gen?

With its lightweight body that thing would be crazy smile.gif . I think most problems would come with the shifter linkages and finding some kinda way to make the axels fit...


no.....IPB Imagea celica look like a civic to youIPB Image

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Lol, when was last time civics came with H22s laugh.gif


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post Apr 6, 2006 - 12:43 PM
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correction then.... we dont mix honda's and toyota's around here mad.gif
NO honda motor should ever be swapped in a celica - it is no crappy prelude/JDM accord
thanks very much - wink.gif


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post Apr 6, 2006 - 2:29 PM
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yeah helllllll no!!!!!!!!!!! there will be no mixing up engines here IMO i think the ae86 with the f20 is gay and the mrs with the k20 is gay soooooooo therefore the 6th gen celica with a h22 is super gay!!!!!!! but honestly if you want to do it i dont want to see it done on these forums go do it in some civic forum because toyotas with toyotas OK HONDA with HONDA OK (even though not my choice) but NEVER EVER mix and match!!!!!!!!!!!! plus who would want to trade the 3sgte for a h22????????? well NOT ME!!!! ........... mad.gif
post Apr 6, 2006 - 2:40 PM
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i wouldnt cause a h22 is about 3 grand.. at least by me, so therefore why not 3s?


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post Apr 6, 2006 - 3:00 PM
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why waste money on that when you could just by a cheap CRX about $500 put gut it to about 1500lbs then put the h22 for about $1500 and have low 13 second car

or you could just stick to the celica


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post Apr 6, 2006 - 4:17 PM
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QUOTE(yungazzdriver @ Apr 6, 2006 - 4:29 PM) [snapback]418494[/snapback]
yeah helllllll no!!!!!!!!!!! there will be no mixing up engines here IMO i think the ae86 with the f20 is gay and the mrs with the k20 is gay soooooooo therefore the 6th gen celica with a h22 is super gay!!!!!!! but honestly if you want to do it i dont want to see it done on these forums go do it in some civic forum because toyotas with toyotas OK HONDA with HONDA OK (even though not my choice) but NEVER EVER mix and match!!!!!!!!!!!! plus who would want to trade the 3sgte for a h22????????? well NOT ME!!!! ........... mad.gif


Wow, how many kids are on these board? I see 3 in this thread!

I wouldn't trade a 3sgte for a h22 either, but I don't have a 3sgte, just a 5s-fe.

I thought I'd get more technical answers than opinions driven rants, what you know? Maybe I already have a h22 laying around(free). Mechanic is mechanic, doesn't matter what's stamped on the peices. I feel some negative views on hondas, why so...I didnt even nearly mentionned a civic to start with!

This post has been edited by Rayme: Apr 6, 2006 - 4:19 PM


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post Apr 6, 2006 - 4:28 PM
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your getting flamed....because you want to put a HONDA motor in a TOYOTA.....

#1) the cost of it and the amount of custom work needed isn't worth it when you have far better options...

#2) the wiring is practically incompatable.. and would take waaaaay too many hours to make it worth it....

so you want to spend more money, more time and more effort to get something most anyone in the car community would NOT condone and is SLOWER and weaker then your current optioins

where does that make sense?
post Apr 6, 2006 - 4:42 PM
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QUOTE(playr158 @ Apr 6, 2006 - 6:28 PM) [snapback]418518[/snapback]
your getting flamed....because you want to put a HONDA motor in a TOYOTA.....

#1) the cost of it and the amount of custom work needed isn't worth it when you have far better options...

#2) the wiring is practically incompatable.. and would take waaaaay too many hours to make it worth it....

so you want to spend more money, more time and more effort to get something most anyone in the car community would NOT condone and is SLOWER and weaker then your current optioins

where does that make sense?


You are wrong, honda guys would just be happy to see a honda engine in a toyota, and In my regional automotive forum(non car specific) I actually got support, real car guys. And whatever you say, any flaming has no reasons to be.


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post Apr 6, 2006 - 6:20 PM
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Real car guys? What are we? Fake car guys? You even said it yourself... "Crazy Idea" and that's exactly what it is... but I'm a fake car guy so why would it matter...
post Apr 6, 2006 - 6:22 PM
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You can get an H22A for about 2k, not a clip but an engine. The wiring is not incompatible, and you can probably figure out a way to do it but you'd most likely need custom axles and definately custom mounting and a whole bunch of custom work which would drive the price up more and more.

For the price you will end up spending you can put a 3rd gen 3s and have way more fun.


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post Apr 6, 2006 - 6:27 PM
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I don't know anything about tech spec. But hearing a HONDA engine into our fine CELICA. It's just doesn't sound right..


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post Apr 6, 2006 - 7:19 PM
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You could probably pick up an H23 easier. I wouldn't mind seeing that in a Celica. Those chevy V8 guys like to put them in everything, so why can't some imports mix and match. I've seen a SR20 power RX-7 once. It's fun to mix and match. Lets not lose sight of what is really important here, having fun and going fast. Seriously though, and H23 wouldn't be too bad. You'd have to do custom mounts and all that, but with a clip, I'm sure it wouldn't that hard. Custom axles too. I'm not sure if it's really worth it. The only this I could see is the fact that there is a lot of parts for it, more so than a 3sge. And if you wanted a high hp NA, it would be the way to go.


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post Apr 6, 2006 - 7:45 PM
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The only problem I can see is the cost, time, and lots of fabrication.
If you really want go for it! I had a similar crazy idea.. a EK Hatch with a 3sgte

More and more tuned cars are getting some freakswaps
LS1/LT1 RX7
Domestic V8 in MKII Supra/280Z
F20 Corolla
2JZGTE 240SX
Bla bla bla.. all I know is that their unique and the owner goes with what he wants. Not the crown. Strong form of individuality biggrin.gif
post Apr 6, 2006 - 7:49 PM
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When individualists break stuff its hard to get replacement
parts.


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post Apr 6, 2006 - 8:02 PM
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You guys complaining about Honda motors in Toyotas just because they're Honda motors are ridiculous. Quit flaming people because you have a grudge against Hondas

I'd love to have a K20 (or even a H22a or a B-series motor) in my Celica...Toyota doesn't make a N/A motor that's on the same level as the K20a in stock form. Plus I love the way Honda trannies feel...much better than the C-series and S-series transmissions in my opinion. Sure, if you don't want a N/A monster, the 3S-GTE is a good choice, but light, N/A cars are incredibly fun, especially with powerful N/A motors like the K20a.

That said, it'd be a ton of work...the K20a is quite different from the B/H-series motors, so I won't even go into that, but the H22/B-series motors have the engine and transmission on opposite sides of the Celica. For that reason, maybe a swap such as a Nissan SR20VE might be easier if you wanted something N/A and incredibly unique.


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post Apr 6, 2006 - 8:19 PM
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QUOTE(jdg371 @ Apr 6, 2006 - 7:45 PM) [snapback]418586[/snapback]

The only problem I can see is the cost, time, and lots of fabrication.
If you really want go for it! I had a similar crazy idea.. a EK Hatch with a 3sgte

More and more tuned cars are getting some freakswaps
LS1/LT1 RX7
Domestic V8 in MKII Supra/280Z
F20 Corolla
2JZGTE 240SX
Bla bla bla.. all I know is that their unique and the owner goes with what he wants. Not the crown. Strong form of individuality biggrin.gif

my neighbor has a 383 stroker in hes 88 rx7 that thing is a jet
post Apr 6, 2006 - 8:26 PM
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QUOTE(Chanh55 @ Apr 6, 2006 - 8:20 PM) [snapback]418549[/snapback]
Real car guys? What are we? Fake car guys? You even said it yourself... "Crazy Idea" and that's exactly what it is... but I'm a fake car guy so why would it matter...

I treated them of kids. Certainly you seem to approve such behavior.

QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Apr 6, 2006 - 9:19 PM) [snapback]418577[/snapback]
Lets not lose sight of what is really important here, having fun and going fast.


Riight on the nail bros. smile.gif


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