Its that time again. Gas prices are raising!, Where do you live and what are the prices? Options

[malpaso]

I realize you guys over in the UK pay a lot for gas (pretty much everywhere but the states), but I have something to tell you. WE IN THE STATES ARE NOT USED TO PAYING THIS MUCH!!! Stop griping to us about our complaining when we're used to a certain quality of life, and when gas prices take a 50% hike in a matter of a month, that changes what we're used to. You guys overseas are used to paying the high prices, and those high prices are largely in reason to the amount of taxes on them. That said,

The oil companies are feeling us out to see what we're willing to pay. There's absolutely no valid reason for how our gas prices have been raising recently. I've seen plenty of excuses thrown out, but no real reasons. I personally believe we need federal regulation of the petroleum industry here in the states to keep this incessant price gouging going. It's already being looked at in the natural gas sector, so hopefully it's only a matter of time before it hits the oil compaines too. Just give it a few more weeks until the oil companies start posting their rather large profits again and the government will start turning an eye towards them and they'll back off like what happened last fall.

Fastbird I didn't mean to be against anybody here at all (That was just for your info, if you don't want "global information" let us know ). There are just one fact I don't understand. If fall production of coal-oil (because of some hurricane or something like this.), price of gas grow in Europe instantly for 1/4 of dollar per gallon. So if in the US some havoc happened , I know my gas will be more expensive here in EU... And last year was really something...

[Clipsetuner]

87 = 2.59
89 = 2.69
91 = 2.81

Portland, Oregon, Its not that bad it could be worse...

DTE

[playr158]

I realize you guys over in the UK pay a lot for gas (pretty much everywhere but the states), but I have something to tell you. WE IN THE STATES ARE NOT USED TO PAYING THIS MUCH!!! Stop griping to us about our complaining when we're used to a certain quality of life, and when gas prices take a 50% hike in a matter of a month, that changes what we're used to. You guys overseas are used to paying the high prices, and those high prices are largely in reason to the amount of taxes on them. That said,

The oil companies are feeling us out to see what we're willing to pay. There's absolutely no valid reason for how our gas prices have been raising recently. I've seen plenty of excuses thrown out, but no real reasons. I personally believe we need federal regulation of the petroleum industry here in the states to keep this incessant price gouging going. It's already being looked at in the natural gas sector, so hopefully it's only a matter of time before it hits the oil compaines too. Just give it a few more weeks until the oil companies start posting their rather large profits again and the government will start turning an eye towards them and they'll back off like what happened last fall.

ok lets all go back to ECONOMICS 101...

gas just like anyother world commodity has a DEMAND and a SUPPLY

now with prices on the "Y" axis and quantity on the "X" axis (just like every other supply and demand graph)

the BLACK lines are your base graph D=demand S= Supply
now when we demand more gas the Demand curve shifts UP (meaning we want more gas aka using more)
so this new increase in demand is our redline...
NOTICE
demand goes up SUPPLY gets less...
why? because your using more DUH!

what happens when you demand more and use it up
the PRICE goes up! as you can see in the new position on the red line

so stop your stupid ignorant bitching about the government and greedy gas station owners....
if you want prices to go down... STOP USING GAS
thus the DEMAND goes down SUPPLY increases and PRICES FALL


~class dismissed

[Fastbird]

I realize you guys over in the UK pay a lot for gas (pretty much everywhere but the states), but I have something to tell you. WE IN THE STATES ARE NOT USED TO PAYING THIS MUCH!!! Stop griping to us about our complaining when we're used to a certain quality of life, and when gas prices take a 50% hike in a matter of a month, that changes what we're used to. You guys overseas are used to paying the high prices, and those high prices are largely in reason to the amount of taxes on them. That said,

The oil companies are feeling us out to see what we're willing to pay. There's absolutely no valid reason for how our gas prices have been raising recently. I've seen plenty of excuses thrown out, but no real reasons. I personally believe we need federal regulation of the petroleum industry here in the states to keep this incessant price gouging going. It's already being looked at in the natural gas sector, so hopefully it's only a matter of time before it hits the oil compaines too. Just give it a few more weeks until the oil companies start posting their rather large profits again and the government will start turning an eye towards them and they'll back off like what happened last fall.

Fastbird I didn't mean to be against anybody here at all (That was just for your info, if you don't want "global information" let us know ). There are just one fact I don't understand. If fall production of coal-oil (because of some hurricane or something like this.), price of gas grow in Europe instantly for 1/4 of dollar per gallon. So if in the US some havoc happened , I know my gas will be more expensive here in EU... And last year was really something...

Trust me when I say that boggles my mind also. You could sum it up to how many world markets are based off of the U.S. market, but that still shouldn't hold down to gas prices. Last year was probably a case of the oil companies doing their part to line their pockets. They were SCREAMING about a shortage if you remember due to lost rigs, low production, ect, because of the hurricane season in the Gulf of Mexico. And it's true, a refinery got schwacked, many rigs in the gulf were lost, BUT! When Exxon-Mobil posts 9 BILLION 3rd quarter profits, something ain't right. That pinch was felt world wide.

[Kadett]

Some numbers from Europe:


1 liter of 95 octane Super Plus costs 1.07€... someone may say "wow it's cheap"... but not be over hasty for conclusions, here is recomputation to US gallons and USD:

1 european liter is 0.264 US gallon -> 1US gallon is 3.79 liters, so for one US gallon of fuel I pay 4.04€ here...
That's 4.85USD for 1US gallon of 95 octane Super Plus!!! (I belive "Super Plus" means "unleaded gas" )

So smile and be happy you are not pay European prices

Hurrah. Someone is aware there is a place called "Not America".

Last time I filled the car up, it was over £50. That's what, $80? Something like that. I did 218 miles on that fuel. That's what, 37 cents a mile. Every mile. In fuel alone.....

Seriously, if you live in the US, you wouldn't know expensive fuel if a tanker load of it ran you over.

+1 Here
I pay about 1,40 euro for 1 liter 95 Fuel. I almost pay 100 dollar to fill up the gas tank.

The oil companies are feeling us out to see what we're willing to pay. There's absolutely no valid reason for how our gas prices have been raising recently. I've seen plenty of excuses thrown out, but no real reasons. I personally believe we need federal regulation of the petroleum industry here in the states to keep this incessant price gouging going. It's already being looked at in the natural gas sector, so hopefully it's only a matter of time before it hits the oil compaines too. Just give it a few more weeks until the oil companies start posting their rather large profits again and the government will start turning an eye towards them and they'll back off like what happened last fall.

Thats also happening here. You dont here me complaining! About the prices.

[malpaso]

One thing is really interesting (for me). Information of octane number.

EU use 95,98 and 100 octane gas, but I see US has 87,89 and 91 octane gas... For same engines! Or I missed something?

[axelrduvirage]

here in the Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada region the prices this morning were as follows (math was done quickly and figures were rounded up to the nearest penny)





octane 87 = 1.17$CDN/l...4.50$CDN/USgal...5.10$US/gal

octane 89 = 1.21$CDN/l...4.65$CDN/USgal...5.29$US/gal

octane 92 = 1.25$CDN/l...4.81$CDN/USgal...5.46$US/gal



figure for a tank running on empty taking 55l and running octane 92 = 68.75$CDN per fillup every 5 days depending on driving style ans weather conditions.

[Fastbird]

I realize you guys over in the UK pay a lot for gas (pretty much everywhere but the states), but I have something to tell you. WE IN THE STATES ARE NOT USED TO PAYING THIS MUCH!!! Stop griping to us about our complaining when we're used to a certain quality of life, and when gas prices take a 50% hike in a matter of a month, that changes what we're used to. You guys overseas are used to paying the high prices, and those high prices are largely in reason to the amount of taxes on them. That said,

The oil companies are feeling us out to see what we're willing to pay. There's absolutely no valid reason for how our gas prices have been raising recently. I've seen plenty of excuses thrown out, but no real reasons. I personally believe we need federal regulation of the petroleum industry here in the states to keep this incessant price gouging going. It's already being looked at in the natural gas sector, so hopefully it's only a matter of time before it hits the oil compaines too. Just give it a few more weeks until the oil companies start posting their rather large profits again and the government will start turning an eye towards them and they'll back off like what happened last fall.

ok lets all go back to ECONOMICS 101...

gas just like anyother world commodity has a DEMAND and a SUPPLY

now with prices on the "Y" axis and quantity on the "X" axis (just like every other supply and demand graph)

the BLACK lines are your base graph D=demand S= Supply
now when we demand more gas the Demand curve shifts UP (meaning we want more gas aka using more)
so this new increase in demand is our redline...
NOTICE
demand goes up SUPPLY gets less...
why? because your using more DUH!

what happens when you demand more and use it up
the PRICE goes up! as you can see in the new position on the red line

so stop your stupid ignorant bitching about the government and greedy gas station owners....
if you want prices to go down... STOP USING GAS
thus the DEMAND goes down SUPPLY increases and PRICES FALL


~class dismissed

Let's go back to class then. Demand doesn't go up 50% in a single month.

[devilsden97]

This was just suppose to be a compairing local prices thing, not an arguement over who pays more, and who shouldnt complain. You are all trying to get this thread closed.

[Fastbird]

This was just suppose to be a compairing local prices thing, not an arguement over who pays more, and who shouldnt complain. You are all trying to get this thread closed.

My bad. Back on topic.

Here in NJ what I'm seeing is ~2.70ish for regular and ~2.90ish for supreme. Local Wawa has 2.73-2.83-2.93 breakdown this morning as I went by.

[Mr_E]

but I have something to tell you. WE IN THE STATES ARE NOT USED TO PAYING THIS MUCH!!!

Tough. Get used to it. It's a non renewable resource, mainly produced by a cartel in an unstable region. The price is only going to go one way.

Stop griping to us about our complaining when we're used to a certain quality of life, and when gas prices take a 50% hike in a matter of a month, that changes what we're used to.

Damn. And how dare world politics and a little thing like the future energy sources for the entire species actually affect your quality of life..... I mean, it's not like it's important or anything.

You guys overseas are used to paying the high prices, and those high prices are largely in reason to the amount of taxes on them.

Mmmm. Tax indeed. Do you really want the Government to dictate fuel cost to you, because it happens here and the result is 300-400% tax on anything that fuels a car. Oh, and then we pay 17.5% tax on top of that.

When the crude oil price goes up a bit, the cost of fuel goes up a *lot*.

One thing is really interesting (for me). Information of octane number.

EU use 95,98 and 100 octane gas, but I see US has 87,89 and 91 octane gas... For same engines! Or I missed something?

Yup - you're missing the simple answer. US and Europe measure Octane slightly differently. We use RON, you use MON. MON is slightly more consistant I think.


This post has been edited by Mr_E: Apr 19, 2006 - 10:29 AM

[playr158]

I realize you guys over in the UK pay a lot for gas (pretty much everywhere but the states), but I have something to tell you. WE IN THE STATES ARE NOT USED TO PAYING THIS MUCH!!! Stop griping to us about our complaining when we're used to a certain quality of life, and when gas prices take a 50% hike in a matter of a month, that changes what we're used to. You guys overseas are used to paying the high prices, and those high prices are largely in reason to the amount of taxes on them. That said,

The oil companies are feeling us out to see what we're willing to pay. There's absolutely no valid reason for how our gas prices have been raising recently. I've seen plenty of excuses thrown out, but no real reasons. I personally believe we need federal regulation of the petroleum industry here in the states to keep this incessant price gouging going. It's already being looked at in the natural gas sector, so hopefully it's only a matter of time before it hits the oil compaines too. Just give it a few more weeks until the oil companies start posting their rather large profits again and the government will start turning an eye towards them and they'll back off like what happened last fall.

ok lets all go back to ECONOMICS 101...

gas just like anyother world commodity has a DEMAND and a SUPPLY

now with prices on the "Y" axis and quantity on the "X" axis (just like every other supply and demand graph)

the BLACK lines are your base graph D=demand S= Supply
now when we demand more gas the Demand curve shifts UP (meaning we want more gas aka using more)
so this new increase in demand is our redline...
NOTICE
demand goes up SUPPLY gets less...
why? because your using more DUH!

what happens when you demand more and use it up
the PRICE goes up! as you can see in the new position on the red line

so stop your stupid ignorant bitching about the government and greedy gas station owners....
if you want prices to go down... STOP USING GAS
thus the DEMAND goes down SUPPLY increases and PRICES FALL


~class dismissed

Let's go back to class then. Demand doesn't go up 50% in a single month.

the cheapest i've bought premium for my turbo is 2.33$ in the last year or so

so we'll use that saying that its 3.00$ at highest right now
thats a 23% increase in price.....now that does not reflect the ACTUAL increase in demand
but 23% is not that much...and thats on the EXTREMES

This post has been edited by playr158: Apr 19, 2006 - 10:32 AM

[fastgt]

filled up at moblie 91 octane $3.17.....i wish i could put 87 in the Z...but if you think about it the price difference between 87 and 91 youre really only saving about 2 dollars...no big deal

[Jeremy1210]

well i got to work at 830 am and gas was 2.61 for cheap stuff. Its not 1247pm and gas is now 2.91?? Now I know nothing has happened in the 4 hours I have been at work...WTF?? Oil companies are raping us hard...man I'd love to meet an Exxon Mobil oil exec and give him a piece of mind and a fist if it were allowed...

I mean come on my pucker hurts way more than that one....opps

[devilsden97]

not to change the topic, but, how about the price of tires?

Falken ZIEX ZE 512 (4) 225/45/17 with balancing, valve stems, and all that $611.25<---YIKES! (i paid it though )

Back to gas prices.

[Fastbird]

the cheapest i've bought premium for my turbo is 2.33$ in the last year or so

so we'll use that saying that its 3.00$ at highest right now
thats a 23% increase in price.....now that does not reflect the ACTUAL increase in demand
but 23% is not that much...and thats on the EXTREMES

A month ago I was paying right at $2.00 a gallon in southern jersey. I've seen several places that are over $3.00 a gallon now.

I also just noticed that on base the prices went from 2.79 to 2.87 for premium since yesterday afternoon. Looks like the NJ Turnpike is the cheapest at $2.80 for premium, for the next couple of days at least.

[playr158]

2.80$ on the TP where!!!!

i'm on my way to jersey city friday and VA is like 3$

[Mr_E]

not to change the topic, but, how about the price of tires?

Falken ZIEX ZE 512 (4) 225/45/17 with balancing, valve stems, and all that $611.25<---YIKES! (i paid it though )

4 x 225/40ZR18 extra load Eagle F1 GSD03. Almost $900.

[devilsden97]

not to change the topic, but, how about the price of tires?

Falken ZIEX ZE 512 (4) 225/45/17 with balancing, valve stems, and all that $611.25<---YIKES! (i paid it though )

4 x 225/40ZR18 extra load Eagle F1 GSD03. Almost $900.

was going to get those till they told me there were $200+ a tire

[celicast3sgte]

$3.01 for 92 octane this morning.... BLAHHHH am i sure i want to up the boost? :-/ ........... YEP!