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post Apr 20, 2006 - 2:16 PM
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this is the first time i've seen the the throttle body pipe go directly into the turbo like this

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is there suppose to be no intercooler or something? cuz most of the time you would connect the piping of the throttle body to the intercooler, but wassup with this 5sfe? is this how you're suppose to turbo a 5sfe?

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you NEED an intercooler. just because somone was dumb enough to run the pipe right in, dosnt mean its right.


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post Apr 20, 2006 - 2:32 PM
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if it's under 8psi or less, you don't really need an intercooler, i've read that somewhere while researching for my initial 5sfte project.



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post Apr 20, 2006 - 2:32 PM
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The detonation on that car must be horrible.


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post Apr 20, 2006 - 2:49 PM
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motor go BOOOOOOOM......frown.gif
post Apr 20, 2006 - 4:03 PM
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That'd be a 5th gen owner for ya!

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post Apr 20, 2006 - 4:55 PM
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now i know thats not right!

like playr said "motor go boom"


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post Apr 20, 2006 - 5:24 PM
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QUOTE(Aaagogo @ Apr 20, 2006 - 3:32 PM) [snapback]424072[/snapback]

if it's under 8psi or less, you don't really need an intercooler, i've read that somewhere while researching for my initial 5sfte project.



just because somone says that on the internet, dosnt mean its true.

not to mention, that most turbo cars have a very hard time running just 7-8psi. you would need a very small exhaust to keep the boost that low.


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post Apr 20, 2006 - 7:43 PM
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thats just not a good idea.
period.
end of disscussion.


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post Apr 20, 2006 - 8:04 PM
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QUOTE(presure2 @ Apr 20, 2006 - 8:43 PM) [snapback]424235[/snapback]

thats just not a good idea.
period.
end of disscussion.


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post Apr 20, 2006 - 11:37 PM
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Thats a photo of the old Burien Toyota 5SFE turbo kit. Now with what we know about turboing that motor, that kit is so overpriced and half-assed that its completely not worth it.

Always run an intercooler on a boosted motor....I would NEVER chance it like that, even on a low-boost application.


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post Apr 20, 2006 - 11:44 PM
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i see i see, thanx lagos

QUOTE(lagos @ Apr 20, 2006 - 6:24 PM) [snapback]424186[/snapback]

QUOTE(Aaagogo @ Apr 20, 2006 - 3:32 PM) [snapback]424072[/snapback]

if it's under 8psi or less, you don't really need an intercooler, i've read that somewhere while researching for my initial 5sfte project.



just because somone says that on the internet, dosnt mean its true.

not to mention, that most turbo cars have a very hard time running just 7-8psi. you would need a very small exhaust to keep the boost that low.



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post Apr 21, 2006 - 4:19 AM
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the cooler air to engine means is more power on flywheel..
this engine will over heat and blow up head gasget kindasad.gif


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post Apr 21, 2006 - 5:07 AM
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wow, you've got big degrees C going into that motor.

You gotta feel sorry for it.
post Apr 21, 2006 - 5:22 AM
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it won't last

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post Apr 21, 2006 - 11:44 PM
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QUOTE(pure_dx @ Apr 21, 2006 - 5:16 AM) [snapback]424062[/snapback]

this is the first time i've seen the the throttle body pipe go directly into the turbo like this

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is there suppose to be no intercooler or something? cuz most of the time you would connect the piping of the throttle body to the intercooler, but wassup with this 5sfe? is this how you're suppose to turbo a 5sfe?


Generally it is not a good idea to run without an intercooler due to detonation. If you are trying to see if you can get away without one, you will on low boost (up to 5psi). As a general rule detonation occurs around 110 degrees celcius. If you intake temp is below 110, you don't HAVE to cool the air first, but it always a good idea. I was running 4.5psi on the 5s-fe, with a rising rate fuel reg and no intercooler with no problems.
post Apr 21, 2006 - 11:48 PM
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how do you run 4psi? what turbo was this on?




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post Apr 22, 2006 - 1:49 AM
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QUOTE(lagos @ Apr 22, 2006 - 2:48 PM) [snapback]424685[/snapback]

how do you run 4psi? what turbo was this on?


It was actually an electric supercharger. Wasn't happy with it so it was only in for 3 months
post Apr 22, 2006 - 2:19 AM
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QUOTE(swerve @ Apr 22, 2006 - 2:49 AM) [snapback]424711[/snapback]

QUOTE(lagos @ Apr 22, 2006 - 2:48 PM) [snapback]424685[/snapback]

how do you run 4psi? what turbo was this on?


It was actually an electric supercharger. Wasn't happy with it so it was only in for 3 months



your kidding, right?

telling people that you were running a boosted motor with no intercooler and had no issues, when in fact you had an electric fan connected to your intake, is a little missleading dont you think?


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post Apr 22, 2006 - 2:44 AM
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I ran my 5sfte with no cooler for about 18 months....8psi.....nice....
then i got greedy and went to 10psi and ka-boom.....melted a piston.....

mine you it did go hard but not for long.........hehehe... Ask celica ZR how it went.....hehehe


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