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no intercooler? |
Apr 20, 2006 - 2:16 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 28, '05 From USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
this is the first time i've seen the the throttle body pipe go directly into the turbo like this
is there suppose to be no intercooler or something? cuz most of the time you would connect the piping of the throttle body to the intercooler, but wassup with this 5sfe? is this how you're suppose to turbo a 5sfe? This post has been edited by pure_dx: Apr 20, 2006 - 2:17 PM |
Apr 20, 2006 - 2:17 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
you NEED an intercooler. just because somone was dumb enough to run the pipe right in, dosnt mean its right.
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Apr 20, 2006 - 2:32 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 16, '05 From Daytona Beach, FL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (50%) |
if it's under 8psi or less, you don't really need an intercooler, i've read that somewhere while researching for my initial 5sfte project.
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Apr 20, 2006 - 2:32 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
The detonation on that car must be horrible.
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Apr 20, 2006 - 2:49 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
motor go BOOOOOOOM......
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Apr 20, 2006 - 4:03 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 12, '03 From Portland , Oregon , United States Currently Offline Reputation: -1 (33%) |
That'd be a 5th gen owner for ya!
DTE -------------------- I am a thief.
do not buy anything from me. |
Apr 20, 2006 - 4:55 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 23, '04 From Ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
now i know thats not right!
like playr said "motor go boom" -------------------- |
Apr 20, 2006 - 5:24 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
QUOTE(Aaagogo @ Apr 20, 2006 - 3:32 PM) [snapback]424072[/snapback] if it's under 8psi or less, you don't really need an intercooler, i've read that somewhere while researching for my initial 5sfte project. just because somone says that on the internet, dosnt mean its true. not to mention, that most turbo cars have a very hard time running just 7-8psi. you would need a very small exhaust to keep the boost that low. -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Apr 20, 2006 - 7:43 PM |
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Moderator Joined Oct 1, '02 From fall river, ma Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
thats just not a good idea.
period. end of disscussion. -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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Apr 20, 2006 - 8:04 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 13, '05 From Poughkeepsie, NY Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
QUOTE(presure2 @ Apr 20, 2006 - 8:43 PM) [snapback]424235[/snapback] thats just not a good idea. period. end of disscussion. P2 has spoken -------------------- Kawi Love |
Apr 20, 2006 - 11:37 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 13, '02 From Blairstown, New Jersey Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
Thats a photo of the old Burien Toyota 5SFE turbo kit. Now with what we know about turboing that motor, that kit is so overpriced and half-assed that its completely not worth it.
Always run an intercooler on a boosted motor....I would NEVER chance it like that, even on a low-boost application. -------------------- 3rd gen ST205 3SGTE - Alive and boosting. |
Apr 20, 2006 - 11:44 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 16, '05 From Daytona Beach, FL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (50%) |
i see i see, thanx lagos
QUOTE(lagos @ Apr 20, 2006 - 6:24 PM) [snapback]424186[/snapback] QUOTE(Aaagogo @ Apr 20, 2006 - 3:32 PM) [snapback]424072[/snapback] if it's under 8psi or less, you don't really need an intercooler, i've read that somewhere while researching for my initial 5sfte project. just because somone says that on the internet, dosnt mean its true. not to mention, that most turbo cars have a very hard time running just 7-8psi. you would need a very small exhaust to keep the boost that low. -------------------- Journal for my 3SGTE swap
Posting and asking qns here for my 3SGTE swap Regular on ToyotaTuners, no long on TN Lurker on celictech for my 3SGTE swap Trying to sell stuff on alltrac.net Time will tell that it is a mistake to replace the F-14 Tomcat with the F-18 Super Hornet as the carriers first line of defense. |
Apr 21, 2006 - 4:19 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 3, '03 From Cyprus Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
the cooler air to engine means is more power on flywheel..
this engine will over heat and blow up head gasget -------------------- |
Apr 21, 2006 - 5:07 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 29, '06 From Hull, UK Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
wow, you've got big degrees C going into that motor.
You gotta feel sorry for it. |
Apr 21, 2006 - 5:22 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 17, '04 From St Louis, MO Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
it won't last
i know first hand -------------------- 2005 MB C200 Kompressor- K&N, Apexi WS2 Catback, DIY Voltage stabilizer, Intrax Springs, H&R RR swaybar, VDO Boost Gauge @ 6psi, Greddy L7 plugs, +0 Rear tires
To Do: E-manage Ultimate tuned up to 12psi |
Apr 21, 2006 - 11:44 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 18, '06 From Brisbane - Australia Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(pure_dx @ Apr 21, 2006 - 5:16 AM) [snapback]424062[/snapback] this is the first time i've seen the the throttle body pipe go directly into the turbo like this is there suppose to be no intercooler or something? cuz most of the time you would connect the piping of the throttle body to the intercooler, but wassup with this 5sfe? is this how you're suppose to turbo a 5sfe? Generally it is not a good idea to run without an intercooler due to detonation. If you are trying to see if you can get away without one, you will on low boost (up to 5psi). As a general rule detonation occurs around 110 degrees celcius. If you intake temp is below 110, you don't HAVE to cool the air first, but it always a good idea. I was running 4.5psi on the 5s-fe, with a rising rate fuel reg and no intercooler with no problems. |
Apr 21, 2006 - 11:48 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
how do you run 4psi? what turbo was this on?
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Apr 22, 2006 - 1:49 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 18, '06 From Brisbane - Australia Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(lagos @ Apr 22, 2006 - 2:48 PM) [snapback]424685[/snapback] how do you run 4psi? what turbo was this on? It was actually an electric supercharger. Wasn't happy with it so it was only in for 3 months |
Apr 22, 2006 - 2:19 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
QUOTE(swerve @ Apr 22, 2006 - 2:49 AM) [snapback]424711[/snapback] QUOTE(lagos @ Apr 22, 2006 - 2:48 PM) [snapback]424685[/snapback] how do you run 4psi? what turbo was this on? It was actually an electric supercharger. Wasn't happy with it so it was only in for 3 months your kidding, right? telling people that you were running a boosted motor with no intercooler and had no issues, when in fact you had an electric fan connected to your intake, is a little missleading dont you think? -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Apr 22, 2006 - 2:44 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 16, '04 From sydney australia Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I ran my 5sfte with no cooler for about 18 months....8psi.....nice....
then i got greedy and went to 10psi and ka-boom.....melted a piston..... mine you it did go hard but not for long.........hehehe... Ask celica ZR how it went.....hehehe -------------------- 312whp with more to come.... |
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