what would you do?, engine swap or not? Options

[sanchezian16]

okay..im debatin on whether or not to do a 3sgte engine swap wit my 7afe in my 97 celica and just fixing up the exterior and interior for now...or should i just make my current engine and better...will the engine swap be that much of a difference?

[CelicaZR]

Yep the 3sgte will make a very big differences,
ask Bboy

[Defgeph]

I was in the same bost as you a few years ago.

Did the suspension, next was the engine, then the exterior.

This dyno video should help your decision.

My Dyno

good luck
DEF

[sinner96ST]

Engine swap.

I'm considering doing that or buying an mr-2 turbo, whichever comes easier. I'd try to do the swap myself, then get a custom made wiring harness from one of the guys (Tweak, DG) on the boards.

[celicast3sgte]

you should edit the video so it says how much your putting out not just showing the graph.. nice run though. RC CT26 right?

[j0e_p3t]

everyone will tell you to swap. and i agree with them all.

[sanchezian16]

Engine swap.

I'm considering doing that or buying an mr-2 turbo, whichever comes easier. I'd try to do the swap myself, then get a custom made wiring harness from one of the guys (Tweak, DG) on the boards.

exactly what mr-2 engine can you use to swap in an at200...

[presure2]

i wouldnt not try to use a mr2 motor for your first engine swap.
the acsessories are on the wrong side of the motor waternecks are diffrent, the harness and ecu are diffrent also.
your MUCH better off with a celica front clip.
now, if your just replacing a 3sgte thats already in your car, the mr2 option is viable because you just transfer over all the brackets ect you need from the celica motor to the mr2 one.

[BBoYRuGGeD]

Yep the 3sgte will make a very big differences,
ask Bboy

damn right it makes a big difference!

bboy

[sinner96ST]

You can use an mr-2 turbo motor, but, I was just saying, I'm considering buying the actual car and just driving that instead of doing the swap.

Only problem is that I can only find mr-2's with only 100k+ miles on them, i'm not sure if a boosted motor (even a toyota) would be that reliable with such high mileage.

You'd be much better off buying an ST205 clip and swapping that motor in.

[sanchezian16]

okay...i was reading something earlier today about when swapping to a 3sgte you have to make alot of custom changes...and it only fits rite on a 5afe not a 7afe...is this accurate?

[sinner96ST]

It will mount to the ST chassis, however, you'll need to use GT motor mounts, axles, and shifter cables to get it to work right, if you plan on using a GT transmission.

Read http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=28825 for more info.

[BBoYRuGGeD]

^^^ what he said

okay...i was reading something earlier today about when swapping to a 3sgte you have to make alot of custom changes...and it only fits rite on a 5afe not a 7afe...is this accurate?

mine use to be an auto ST...not anymore

bboy

[Culpable04]

a ST can actually run fast ( after the Swap )

[pandakid]

i wish i can swap unless i can get my car to pass smog with that swap.won't pass in california.

This post has been edited by pandakid: Apr 28, 2006 - 4:14 AM

[sanchezian16]

It will mount to the ST chassis, however, you'll need to use GT motor mounts, axles, and shifter cables to get it to work right, if you plan on using a GT transmission.

Read http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=28825 for more info.

okay...say i dont use a gt tranny..its already manual...but will it work rite or the stock tranny cant handle it?

[BBoYRuGGeD]

It will mount to the ST chassis, however, you'll need to use GT motor mounts, axles, and shifter cables to get it to work right, if you plan on using a GT transmission.

Read http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=28825 for more info.

okay...say i dont use a gt tranny..its already manual...but will it work rite or the stock tranny cant handle it?

u mean use an ST tranny? if so then no that tranny wont work

bboy

[sanchezian16]

okay..roughly what were the cost for yall to swap to the 3sgte including the axles and mounts and what else was necessary to change in order to make it fit...and is the wiring harness hard to make? ive heard different things bout the harness

[burneeed]

clip 1500 - 2200 depending on where you buy it I would go jarco... thats for a st185clip
s54 tranny - you can get it from a junkyard for around 300 I would suggest getting all three tranny mounts from the junkyard at the same time. Tranny mounts fromt the dealer arent cheap. The mount that sits right below the rad was like 79 dollars? The one that sits against the fender was around 90?
axles - 99 dollars from advance...just make sure you tell them its for your exact car they screwed mine up about 3x.
harness - tweek makes a harness for around 300$ I think? Its much much easier having someone do all the wiring for you.
motor Mounts are not cheap fromt he delaership if thats where your getting them from.
shifter cables are 135$ from the dealer. Somethign else you can get from a junkyard if they have a 6gc there.

I would also suggest an front mount as the top mount doesnt help out much.

[fastcelica20]

QUESTION: for the wiring harness extension, it's only for the ST right? If it also includes GT then im confused because I thought it was bolt on? correct me