YES 3sgte with a 5s stock tranny., some thing is broken. woot. Options

[Supersprynt]

Jeff - I knew yours didnt come outta an MR2, just that it was an S54, sorry about that confusion.

Manny - I am thinking the part # difference would be due to one tranny being configured for RWD and the other FWD?

[BBoYRuGGeD]

so the s54 that came with the 5sfe and the 3sge is the same...this gives me a lil' confidence to beat on my s54 just a lil' bit more

bboy

[brianforster]

i wonder what the part number is for the 3sge celica tranny, maybe that would help us

[Batman722]

OK I have some info from looking at the EPC

st202s came with either a e56 and an s54...the e56 was only until 96 and the s54 was available all years.

the axles were different on ST202s (one with SuperStrut and one without)

also, the LSD was available from 96+ on the st202s

[Supersprynt]

The E56 could be an auto tranny?

LSDs on what transmission? That would be a great transmission to use! Problem here is availability. No S54 in the states had LSD.

Part #s for the axles? I think that would be an great thing to get to upgrade the S54 for the swaps.

[Batman722]

i wonder what the part number is for the 3sge celica tranny, maybe that would help us

st202 - 3sge
30300-2b560 until 96
30300-2b570 all years
30300-2b670 96+ LSD

US st204 - 5sfe
30300-2b580

help you much BrianForster ?

[brianforster]

for those interested i am downloading the toyota electronic parts catalog at the moment, im going to look into creating a bittorrent to distribute it amongst the community.

[BBoYRuGGeD]

for those interested i am downloading the toyota electronic parts catalog at the moment, im going to look into creating a bittorrent to distribute it amongst the community.

please do

bboy

[brianforster]

its 500 megs, and i think i need access to a tracker and webserver, so i am going to try to find a free one around the net.

[Defgeph]

Jeff - I knew yours didnt come outta an MR2, just that it was an S54, sorry about that confusion.

Manny - I am thinking the part # difference would be due to one tranny being configured for RWD and the other FWD?

I was just stating for everyone else reading, no problem Erik.
Manny posted the part numbers for a USDM s54 tranny and a JDM s54 Both tranny's are from front wheel drives celicas that he listed.

so the s54 that came with the 5sfe and the 3sge is the same...this gives me a lil' confidence to beat on my s54 just a lil' bit more
bboy

There are a few differences between the tranny's. Calling them the same would be unfair at this point. Manny wanted to explode the insides of the two trannys on the EPC to see the true differences. Wait until its confirmed.
You shouldnt have to worry about your tranny. There are plenty of people running the S54 hard.

I listed a few differences on the exterior of the tranny on page 2, I'd like to see what the interior looks like on each.

[Batman722]

There are a few differences between the tranny's. Calling them the same would be unfair at this point. Manny wanted to explode the insides of the two trannys on the EPC to see the true differences. Wait until its confirmed.
You shouldnt have to worry about your tranny. There are plenty of people running the S54 hard.

I listed a few differences on the exterior of the tranny on page 2, I'd like to see what the interior looks like on each.

I exploded both of the trannys...54 and the 56
the 54 looks much more complex...hard to explain.

[Supersprynt]

Good stuff guys!

[brianforster]

we are talking about the interior differences of the s54 mated to the 3sge in an mr2, and the s54 mated to the 5sfe in teh celica

[Batman722]

OK here it is...pics.

top left you will see the prod date, model and under that is the tranny code

[brianforster]

batman, can you check the part numbers of the s54 offered in 6th gen with the 3sge (ss-III)?

[Supersprynt]

If we knew Jeff's part #s we could probably find out which tranny its from.

[Batman722]

If we knew Jeff's part #s we could probably find out which tranny its from.

if I had Jeff's tranny part #, I could find out much info on it....

[brianforster]

from mannys post earlier in the thread, jeffs part number is :

30300-2B570

[lagos]

the 3sge was also sold in the 4th gen celica. not saying thats what jeff has, just that it might be something to look into, also.


if the insides of the jdm s54 were any different, wouldnt they change the model number of the trans?

[brianforster]

heres a screenshot from my EPC.
the 3sge tranny is in fact coded as "S-54"
however, the trannys carry diffrent part #s, as well as the axels.
30300-2B570 3SGE tranny
30300-2B580 5SFE tranny
43410-20730 3SGE non-ABS axle
43410-20670 5SFE non-ABS axle

the 3sge was also sold in the 4th gen celica. not saying thats what jeff has, just that it might be something to look into, also.


if the insides of the jdm s54 were any different, wouldnt they change the model number of the trans?

well the jdm and usdm 3sgtes are still 3sgtes

heres what i want to compare:
30300-2B570 - 3sge s54 found in mr2
30300-2B580 - 5sfe s54 found in celica
XXXXX-XXXXX - 3sge s54 found in celica

i have the same theory as erik that the part number for the s54 found in the mr2 is because it is for rwd.

id like to compare the s54 mated with the 3sge found in celicas to see if that part number changes back to 2B580