YES 3sgte with a 5s stock tranny., some thing is broken. woot. Options

[Supersprynt]

from mannys post earlier in the thread, jeffs part number is :

30300-2B570

Thats tranny, i meant axles.

[lagos]

lets not forget that the "s54" IS a part number, in a way.

i think all the s54s are the same, but get different part numbers because they might have different brackets on them for different shifter cables, clutch lines.etc...

[brianforster]

this is an excellent topic!

[Batman722]

heres what i want to compare:
30300-2B570 - 3sge s54 found in mr2
30300-2B580 - 5sfe s54 found in celica
XXXXX-XXXXX - 3sge s54 found in celica

I do not understand

the part #s listed are for transmissions found in celicas, not MR2s.

30300-2B570 > was in 94-99 JDM celicas
30300-2B580 > was in 94-99 USDM celicas

do you want the MR2 tranny part #s too ? I assure you, they are different

[brianforster]

ok then can you post part numbers for the 5sfe s54 mr2 tranny and the 3sge s54 mr2 tranny

[Defgeph]

I wish I had some numbers on those axles.

We should first compair

USDM S54 & JDM S54 for celicas


Then once we have done that. Then compair

USDM S54 & JDM S54 for the MR2

It will keep the confusion down.

[burneeed]

theres so much work involved in converting the 93 + E153 lsd tranny. Is the solara v6 e153 lsd ? I dont rememeber. It would be so much easier starting off with that being that its god all the shifter brackets + actuator set up for fwd not like a mr2 trans where the brackets are all setup differently. This tranny compared to my other one has much taller gears. Might make it a shy bit slower. My other 3 trannys wanted me to shift all the time. I feel like I can hold it in gear alot better with this tranny. It feels like I have better top end too. It just feels like this is the right trannsmission for out cars. Ill post some pics of the tranny tommorow.

[Batman722]

we need to remember that Jeff's tranny is not from a Celica...it's from a Curren ( I think a 3rd gen 3sge Curren...)

[Defgeph]

we need to remember that Jeff's tranny is not from a Celica...it's from a Curren ( I think a 3rd gen 3sge Curren...)

You are correct Dustin. You should look to see if its the same part number for the curren

[Supersprynt]

Are you sure about that or speculating?

I would assume that the Celica & Curren trannies would be identical, really no reason for a difference.

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: May 10, 2006 - 12:01 AM

[Batman722]

I wish I could...I do not have Curren part #s

I bet asianadvanced does though...

[brianforster]

guys, i read this on the FAQ for the EPC from the place i downloaded it

=============================================
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WHAT ABOUT PART NUMBERS?
=============================================
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Now, there are different data CDs that go with the EPC depending upon which
country you live in Europe, Japan, etc. The version that I have is for Europe.
However, thanks to Toyota's part numbering system you can use PNC (not sure
what it stands for) which is the first 6 or 7 digits of the part number to
identify which part you need. The rest of the number is refered to as a
"locator number" and determines which country, color, trim package, year, etc.
that you have. All of the PNC numbers that I have checked so far, match up
with the microfiche that I have for my car (91T). If you are concerned about
whether a given part number matches, send me the number and I'll double check
it with my microfiche or local dealership.

this could explain why the numbers are different for the second half of the part numbers...

[Defgeph]

I would think that as well. The trannys would be the same for the JDM celica & curren.

Another theory is that I have L.S.D. I'm a little doubtful on that. But then again, I have never had any experience with an L.S.D. tranny.

One thing is for sure, I have a very strange tranny.

[brianforster]

not sure how long this will last but heres where i got the EPC
http://www.yankeetoys.org/Docs.htm

i just googled for it, im sure the links will be taken down after 100 people from this site download it lol, but my DL is done so im not worried

[playr158]

http://www.mr2oc.com/showthread.php?t=174139

maybe that will help with your lsd tranny ID...but i doubt a 3sge tranny has it...

[Supersprynt]

As far as I know there was no LSD for the S54 tranny. But with Dustin finding a part # for one, its kinda odd. Alot of ppl get confused when they look inside the diff and see a bar and then go on MR2oc and see "if you have a bar you have LSD. Well that only applies to E153's as ALL S54s have that bar.

I dont know, but my guess would be that you have an S54. I think any more details as to what car it came from and what year will be pretty hard to come by.

This was a fun game tho

[playr158]

wouldn't there be a number on jeff's tranny though, erik?

[Batman722]

not sure how long this will last but heres where i got the EPC
http://www.yankeetoys.org/Docs.htm

i just googled for it, im sure the links will be taken down after 100 people from this site download it lol, but my DL is done so im not worried

that EPC might only go up to 1995

what we need is pictures of Jeff's tranny, pictures of s54s with LSD & without LSD, and more infomation on 1995 Currens. Having the frame # of the Curren it came out of would give many answers, probably all of them.

[brianforster]

not sure how long this will last but heres where i got the EPC
http://www.yankeetoys.org/Docs.htm

i just googled for it, im sure the links will be taken down after 100 people from this site download it lol, but my DL is done so im not worried

that EPC might only go up to 1995

what we need is pictures of Jeff's tranny, pictures of s54s with LSD & without LSD, and more infomation on 1995 Currens. Having the frame # of the Curren it came out of would give many answers, probably all of them.

i cant even get it to work

[lagos]

I would think that as well. The trannys would be the same for the JDM celica & curren.

Another theory is that I have L.S.D. I'm a little doubtful on that. But then again, I have never had any experience with an L.S.D. tranny.

One thing is for sure, I have a very strange tranny.

if you read a lot of posts on mr2oc about mr2 owners trying to figure out if they have lsd or not, youll notice a lot of people tell you that just because you have 2 burnout markts, dosnt mean you have lsd.

i know you said that when manny tires to do a burn out, he dosnt leave the same markings, but you have to remember that he still has a 5sfe motor. it makes different power and torque. his car also has a lot less weight then a 3sgte swaped celica. not to mention thats its two different drivers doing the burnout. so you really cant compare the two cars.

also, your car might have less/more torque steer because of the fact that you dont have power steering.

all signs point to it being a normal s54 tranny. the axels might be ticker, but that dosnt mean much because its the tranny you are comparing, and not the axels. they are still the same spline count and length.


the cool thing about all this, is that now we know why the s54 holds up well for us swapers. it was a tranny that was built to handle at least the power of a 3sge motor.


another thing to remember is that the s54 is really an updated version of the s53. if they did beef it up, or change anything about the 3sge trans, they would have renamed it to s55 like they did when they upgraded the 5th gen s53 to the s54.