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[LewFX]

black wrap but die will burn off i guess making it white?

[spunky393]

now just build yourself a cold air and you'll be set

[LewFX]

i have my stock modded cai

[pure_dx]

what color was it when you bought it?

2" 25' black

yep, looks black to me, lol

bitter, i told you already, i wouldn't wrap headers, professional race teams do it because they replace the whole engine the next day, with a daily driven wrapped headers, bad stuff can happen

[LewFX]

so your saying to take it off and let this sucker get super hot? i only applied a thin layer

[Chanh55]

what color was it when you bought it?

2" 25' black

yep, looks black to me, lol

bitter, i told you already, i wouldn't wrap headers, professional race teams do it because they replace the whole engine the next day, with a daily driven wrapped headers, bad stuff can happen

What's so bad about wrapping headers? Please explain what "bad stuff can happen". You can't just say something is bad without backing up your statement. I never heard of race cars going through engines daily.... that sounds rediculous.

[S_C_M]

Header wrap can trap moisture in the material, leading to premature failure of the header. That's pretty much why a lot of people will advise you stay away from it. They also trap heat in the headers which can be a bad thing.

[pure_dx]

what color was it when you bought it?

2" 25' black

yep, looks black to me, lol

bitter, i told you already, i wouldn't wrap headers, professional race teams do it because they replace the whole engine the next day, with a daily driven wrapped headers, bad stuff can happen

What's so bad about wrapping headers? Please explain what "bad stuff can happen". You can't just say something is bad without backing up your statement. I never heard of race cars going through engines daily.... that sounds rediculous.

the joke was on bitter, he failed to read lew's color description of the header wrap, not to lew if that came across your mind. To answer your question, formula atlantic replaces/rebuilds their N/A 4age after each race, because of the high compression and maintaining high revs to power the N/A 4age, it could go boom if things dont get replaced. Here's a link to why i wouldn't put heat wraps on headers, i thought you guys knew about heat wraps already, apparently i was wrong

[LewFX]

one website does not mean a thing, they are trying to sell their product...how bout real facts and articles about it.

[Bitter]

i dont trust a vendor site for good information, other than stoptech and maybe one or two others.

i'm going to wrap mine, then put the silicone spray on the wrap to seal it. i have to keep that heat out of the engine bay somehow, before it ruins the paint on the hood!

[LewFX]

well i took it off today because i didnt feel good about the quality of the wrap, i should have bough dei since its known for its quality.

[hashmaster52]

can the paint on the hood really get ruined from the heat from the header?

[Bitter]

well i took it off today because i didnt feel good about the quality of the wrap, i should have bough dei since its known for its quality.

i'll probably have some left over, if its enough to redo your header...you could buy it off me

[Bitter]

can the paint on the hood really get ruined from the heat from the header?

yea, it can hurt the paint.

[LewFX]

well most hoods have the fire retardant stuff on the inside.

[Kwanza26]

well most hoods have the fire retardant stuff on the inside.

It can cause some premature fading regardless... but that's inconsequential. It depends whether or not you like 'bling' under your hood... but if you went with wrap... chances are that doesn't matter. I'm not a big fan of wrap either... but each to his own. Nice to know somebody finally mustered the balls to try out one of the ebay mystery 5SFE headers. Wasn't it only a little while ago everyone was convinced they cannot fit?

[Bitter]

i dont have one of those insulative mats under my hood, theres not even holes for the pushpins to hold one into place, and all the emissions stickers are under where one should be. its never had one! what would i put under there? i mean after just a couple miles of slow (less than 45mph) driving my hand can be burned by the hood!

[pure_dx]

someone tells me to show proof that wrapping headers can be harmful, i show proof, and then gets flamed because it is only from "one website"?? just google it man

bitter, a good quality high temperature paint job on that hood could be useful man! after all, our cars are like 100 million yrs old or something so just repaint that sh8, peace!

[Bitter]

yea, i suppose some refractive or reflective paint on the underside of the hood could help keep my newer paint safe, the car was repainted about 1.5 years ago btw.

[b1gr3d]

wow this header wrap thing is getting rediculous......ok if you have wrap on then how will the paint on the hood get hot? the wrap is insulating the heat into the header..therefore the heat stays in the header and doesnt disipate out to the hood. even IF it gets hot with the wrap...headers glow red and paint stays on. another thing its' a daily driver so its not like he will be having an amazing amount of heat going through them..like the nascar example in that link..you're comparing cars that have 600 hp, go 200mph for HOURS at a time.. Lew is gonna drive to work and MIGHT get up to 80 for a few seconds...drive for a few minutes...sit at red lights and stop signs idleing...NOT that hot

Lew if you want wrap do it..they are comparing RACE cars to a daily driven celica