racing launch rpm, I KNOW YOU RACE!!!EVERYONE DOES.. |
racing launch rpm, I KNOW YOU RACE!!!EVERYONE DOES.. |
May 15, 2006 - 10:28 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 4, '05 From ST PAUL, MN Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
well this is a probably a re-post but what rpm do you launch at when you race...come on guys i know everyone on here has done it and will be doing for or till when ever..but yeah whats the best numbers to launch..rpm wise i mean...SWAP AND NO-TURBO...
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May 15, 2006 - 10:47 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 6, '06 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
What? Drag? Street? Rally? AX? It all depends. This is covered somewhere in "your first day at the drag strip" I think.
Plus there's a lot more to launching than RPMs. This post has been edited by ZacMan1987: May 15, 2006 - 11:01 PM |
May 15, 2006 - 11:17 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 8, '06 From Irvine Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
there are a lot of factors involved, flywheel/clutch type and strength, ect ect.
for me i launch at about 5500 rpm with a spec stage 3 and a fizdanza 10lb flywheel for the drag strip |
May 15, 2006 - 11:28 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 22, '05 From Mesquite, Texas Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (50%) |
QUOTE(Glitch001 @ May 15, 2006 - 11:17 PM) [snapback]434463[/snapback] there are a lot of factors involved, flywheel/clutch type and strength, ect ect. for me i launch at about 5500 rpm with a spec stage 3 and a fizdanza 10lb flywheel for the drag strip Not to rag on you here, or steal the thread but are you wanting to spin through 1st? Especially with the flywheel, you would easily get beat off the line smoking those tires!!! ** Back to the thread** Personally for me since i have a GT i launch anywhere from 2500RPM-3000RPM Anything more and i will slip and lose any chance of beating any car. That launch is for a drag** Never raced street, rally, or AX. Not to mention our torque peak is 4400RPM so anything over it and your torque band/curve would be flat. But then again i am no mechanic and these are just my opinions from reading around on forums and what not. Hope this helps. --GT This post has been edited by CelicaGT04: May 15, 2006 - 11:29 PM |
May 15, 2006 - 11:57 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 10, '05 From San Diego Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
i launch at 3.5 k.... pretty much the bottom of the 5s powerband... which is where you should launch on any car
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May 16, 2006 - 12:32 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 25, '05 From Sydney, Australia Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
2500-3000 rpm for the 5sfe
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May 16, 2006 - 3:52 AM |
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QUOTE(CelicaGT04 @ May 15, 2006 - 11:28 PM) [snapback]434471[/snapback] QUOTE(Glitch001 @ May 15, 2006 - 11:17 PM) [snapback]434463[/snapback] there are a lot of factors involved, flywheel/clutch type and strength, ect ect. for me i launch at about 5500 rpm with a spec stage 3 and a fizdanza 10lb flywheel for the drag strip Not to rag on you here, or steal the thread but are you wanting to spin through 1st? Especially with the flywheel, you would easily get beat off the line smoking those tires!!! Really? I haven't been beaten off the line much, my friends evo takes me everytime. Oh, btw those numbers are for an mr2, not a celica. I dont have the traction problem, and the high rev helps with 285 tires in the rear with the LSD. Besdies my turbo spools by 3800 or so, while slipping the clutch it helps build boost to 22 so im not waiting so long to hit full power. This post has been edited by Glitch001: May 16, 2006 - 3:54 AM |
May 16, 2006 - 4:31 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 3, '03 From Cyprus Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
it depents on your max torque rpm..
i launch at 6000-6500 rpm which i have my max power. -------------------- |
May 16, 2006 - 8:51 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 22, '05 From Mesquite, Texas Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (50%) |
QUOTE(Glitch001 @ May 16, 2006 - 3:52 AM) [snapback]434526[/snapback] QUOTE(CelicaGT04 @ May 15, 2006 - 11:28 PM) [snapback]434471[/snapback] QUOTE(Glitch001 @ May 15, 2006 - 11:17 PM) [snapback]434463[/snapback] there are a lot of factors involved, flywheel/clutch type and strength, ect ect. for me i launch at about 5500 rpm with a spec stage 3 and a fizdanza 10lb flywheel for the drag strip Not to rag on you here, or steal the thread but are you wanting to spin through 1st? Especially with the flywheel, you would easily get beat off the line smoking those tires!!! Really? I haven't been beaten off the line much, my friends evo takes me everytime. Oh, btw those numbers are for an mr2, not a celica. I dont have the traction problem, and the high rev helps with 285 tires in the rear with the LSD. Besdies my turbo spools by 3800 or so, while slipping the clutch it helps build boost to 22 so im not waiting so long to hit full power. well considering this is a celica forum i would only come to the conclusion that you had a celica. Im pretty sure you dont have traction problems with a mr2. But if it was a celica i would say you were an idiot. Sorry for the miscommunication. --GT |
May 16, 2006 - 9:13 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 16, '04 From UK Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Depends how badly I want to hurt my clutch.
Wheelspin isn't an issue for me. Bogging down certainly is. Full bore is usually 5K+ and a fairly agressive release (although not a sidestep). -------------------- JDM ST205
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May 16, 2006 - 10:34 AM |
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With new tranny spec 3 and flywheel... 3sgte/e153... I tryed to launch from 4k yesterday and it was perfect. When I had the old setup with the puck clutch and the s54 I would do nothing but burn tire launching around 3k.
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May 16, 2006 - 10:37 AM |
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i never lauch my car. 90% of the racing ill do is from a roll anyway and a hard lauch is a good way to break stuff.
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May 16, 2006 - 11:31 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 18, '05 From BANNED Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
if your not breaking it your not driving it right
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May 16, 2006 - 11:37 AM |
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QUOTE(CelicaGT04 @ May 16, 2006 - 8:51 AM) [snapback]434559[/snapback] QUOTE(Glitch001 @ May 16, 2006 - 3:52 AM) [snapback]434526[/snapback] QUOTE(CelicaGT04 @ May 15, 2006 - 11:28 PM) [snapback]434471[/snapback] QUOTE(Glitch001 @ May 15, 2006 - 11:17 PM) [snapback]434463[/snapback] there are a lot of factors involved, flywheel/clutch type and strength, ect ect. for me i launch at about 5500 rpm with a spec stage 3 and a fizdanza 10lb flywheel for the drag strip Not to rag on you here, or steal the thread but are you wanting to spin through 1st? Especially with the flywheel, you would easily get beat off the line smoking those tires!!! Really? I haven't been beaten off the line much, my friends evo takes me everytime. Oh, btw those numbers are for an mr2, not a celica. I dont have the traction problem, and the high rev helps with 285 tires in the rear with the LSD. Besdies my turbo spools by 3800 or so, while slipping the clutch it helps build boost to 22 so im not waiting so long to hit full power. well considering this is a celica forum i would only come to the conclusion that you had a celica. Im pretty sure you dont have traction problems with a mr2. But if it was a celica i would say you were an idiot. Sorry for the miscommunication. --GT I completely agree with you, fwd and revving that high is no good. Hey tuffy you have quite a strong bite with that 3s, I was wondering if you did the shimless bucket conversion while doing headwork. Also what octane at what PSI do you usually run in your car with the gt35r, im finding some serious problems cracking 425rwhp on my mr2 and would love some advice if yoiu had some. |
May 16, 2006 - 6:34 PM |
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heheh i havent raced
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May 16, 2006 - 10:34 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 28, '05 From USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
2800-3200 rpms, street tires on the streets, havn't drag on the track yet
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May 16, 2006 - 10:40 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 6, '06 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
^That's a good way to die^
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May 16, 2006 - 10:46 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 28, '05 From USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
^i know the consequences, i know my limitions and intentions, always in a safe way^ back to the subject, i forgot to mention engine 7afe N/A minor bolt ons
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May 17, 2006 - 12:07 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 30, '05 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
You guys are launching too high. For general dry pavement and typical tires, hold it at 1500rpms and dump the clutch--zero wheel spin and no rpm loss, just straight power and traction. You'll have no trouble smoking almost any car up to 40mph.
EDIT: for 5S. This post has been edited by creamed_corn: May 17, 2006 - 12:08 AM |
May 17, 2006 - 1:58 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 19, '06 From Rocklin, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(creamed_corn @ May 17, 2006 - 12:07 AM) [snapback]434831[/snapback] You guys are launching too high. For general dry pavement and typical tires, hold it at 1500rpms and dump the clutch--zero wheel spin and no rpm loss, just straight power and traction. You'll have no trouble smoking almost any car up to 40mph. EDIT: for 5S. Ditto - our cars are unique in that they get torque down low - most 4 bangers need high RPM launches - our (stock) celicas don't need to be reved much. ~J~ |
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