Celicas?....slow? Options

[Aus]

i have a 2.0 16valve 3sge and mine feels pretty quick its restricted to 112mph but it gets there quick i had a bit of a race with a bmw 330ci and he wasnt pulling away it depends on when u change gear my car limits at 7250rpm if i change at 68oo-7000 it keeps pulling,just depends how you drive it

I feel my old GT was underpowered (3SGE), but the 'T' in 3SGTE in my GT4 makes a world of difference!!! I suppose you get used to the power of the car after a while. Saying that, i kept up with most of honda's best in my GT.

[2003cbgts]

who cares? the celicas not the fasted thing in the world, but its not "slow" either. besides, anybody can make a rusted ****box fast. the celica is much more... badass looks, reliability, history behind it, i love my celicas!!!!!!!

[Kwanza26]

"Slow" is an opinion. "Fast" is an opinion.

[K-ESD]

IMO
the 5SFE is slow, so slow I got frustrated at times. I'd say it's about a lil over the average power of the typical car on the road.

i love my celica tho, i love it so much that i took out that 5SFE and will be replacing it with.... something special

[adamgt-4]

Im quite happy with how mine goes

[playr158]

haha this thread is funny.....i really look back to driving my ST celica and no matter how much i love the car..i really don't know how i ever drove sumthing that slow...i mean 17sec or more in the 1/4 mile i think i run fasteR?!
if you got an st or a gt its pretty much slow if you got a 3sgte,7agte,5sfte or sumthing of that nature you quick...i personally can't wait to get mine back with a 3s under the hood...but i swear off 7a's and 5s's

[crismillencolin]

Im quite happy with how mine goes

yeah yeah yeah , 360bhp.....most would be "quite" happy with that

[ILuvMyCelica95]

Key word Tina...ITS PRETTY. Wanna sell those headlights?

haha no way

[XS4lv1Truch0x]

the 5s stock is good enough... well at least not for racing...

it has good low end power, but it sux after 3500 rpm

lol i swear when im on the freeway going 65+ i try to merge and i cant gain speed when i floor it lol

but yeah, im lookin forward to a 3sgte swap, i hope it pulls like the 5s from a stop.

[shin]

i won't say that mine is really fast but it's definitely not slow

[daazndood]

when i was looking for a car, i was either gonna get either a 6th gen celica or a 98+ integra ls/gs. i got the celica, but its alot slower then an integra. why? the integra is heavier, only has 5 hp more, but the celica has like 18 more ft-lbs or torque. i've researched the 0-60 for the integra ls at about 7.8 and the celica is at like 8.5

[Rayme]

when i was looking for a car, i was either gonna get either a 6th gen celica or a 98+ integra ls/gs. i got the celica, but its alot slower then an integra. why? the integra is heavier, only has 5 hp more, but the celica has like 18 more ft-lbs or torque. i've researched the 0-60 for the integra ls at about 7.8 and the celica is at like 8.5

Integra, make power in the higher RPM, which really help to go faster .

If an engine has more torque(ft. lbs.) than HP, its power is made from low to middle. If it has alot more HP than torque, the power is in higher rpm range, and would kill the other engine even if they have same HP.

[l19tly]

if you want a fast celica buy a 3sgte 6gen celicas look awesome dont forget there not light cars 180bhp pulls it just nicely for my 3sge

[expedition2166]

i'll add this to the mix lol i'll admit i tore a few of the coffee can exaust boys up in my gt vertible granted it wouldnt even get close to hanging with my iroc-z but for a stock 4 banger it was spunky and i enjoyed tearing ass in it and right at 30 mpg nothing much to complain about but it is like this every jap car owner thinks theres is the fastest thing on the street till you pull a old school muscle car with a lil bit of a whisle beside it then most get very shy .................... atleast in my experiances .... so i say let them talk all the sh*t they want if you enjoy it and its yours ....................... f*@k them lol

[daazndood]

when i was looking for a car, i was either gonna get either a 6th gen celica or a 98+ integra ls/gs. i got the celica, but its alot slower then an integra. why? the integra is heavier, only has 5 hp more, but the celica has like 18 more ft-lbs or torque. i've researched the 0-60 for the integra ls at about 7.8 and the celica is at like 8.5

Integra, make power in the higher RPM, which really help to go faster .

If an engine has more torque(ft. lbs.) than HP, its power is made from low to middle. If it has alot more HP than torque, the power is in higher rpm range, and would kill the other engine even if they have same HP.

thanks man! that was very educational

[XS4lv1Truch0x]

when i was looking for a car, i was either gonna get either a 6th gen celica or a 98+ integra ls/gs. i got the celica, but its alot slower then an integra. why? the integra is heavier, only has 5 hp more, but the celica has like 18 more ft-lbs or torque. i've researched the 0-60 for the integra ls at about 7.8 and the celica is at like 8.5

Integra, make power in the higher RPM, which really help to go faster .

If an engine has more torque(ft. lbs.) than HP, its power is made from low to middle. If it has alot more HP than torque, the power is in higher rpm range, and would kill the other engine even if they have same HP.

thats not really true, i smoked a 87 gts with a 3sge in it from a dead stop, both stock and both auto, mine had less horsepower than the gts but mine had more torque, and i smoked em goin like 75+ even tho he was closing in on me when i hit the redline but then it shifted and bam!

This post has been edited by XS4lv1Truch0x: Jun 18, 2006 - 2:34 AM

[Kadett]

3S-GE = Not really slow, but from a stop it takes a while to speed up, once your above the 4800 rpm range its just plain fun.
3S-GTE = Drove it in a GT4, feeled nice but also you could feel the car struggling with the extra 250-300 kg of weight it carries along.
Now a 3rd gen 3S-GTE in FWD GT = VERY FUN indeed pulling away from Impreza's, 200SX, stock MKIII Supra and the GT4 like there nothing

But the gte engines make so much torque at lower range then there NA counterparts that you can't really compare them to eachother.

This post has been edited by Kadett: Jun 18, 2006 - 3:34 AM

[Mr_E]

Integra, make power in the higher RPM, which really help to go faster .

If an engine has more torque(ft. lbs.) than HP, its power is made from low to middle. If it has alot more HP than torque, the power is in higher rpm range, and would kill the other engine even if they have same HP.

You need to know how engines work.

Torque makes the wheels turn. Power is just torque times revs. You are at peak power *once* per gear.

[Rayme]

Integra, make power in the higher RPM, which really help to go faster .

If an engine has more torque(ft. lbs.) than HP, its power is made from low to middle. If it has alot more HP than torque, the power is in higher rpm range, and would kill the other engine even if they have same HP.

You need to know how engines work.

Torque makes the wheels turn. Power is just torque times revs. You are at peak power *once* per gear.

What you said didn't disprove me wrong, it was a general statement that is usually true. I was refering to the torque band obviously, and if you could reader clearer I mention that when its higher in the RPM the more "sporty" or "fast" the engine is. THat being said if both cars are indential and only difference is torque band. A good example is how a relatively torqueless car like a civic SI with a huge 111 ft./lbs. or torque is just going to own a celica with an extraordinaire 145 ft./lbs. of torque.

This post has been edited by Rayme: Jun 18, 2006 - 10:24 AM

[daazndood]

when you guys say 3rd generation 3s-gte you mean the 94-99 gt-4 engine right?