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post Jun 12, 2003 - 6:27 AM
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hey i was just wondering all u say and i know that because of the engine codes the 4agze drops stright into the st but would u all need for this to be possible because i got some money and i am trying to figure out just what to do and i know u can't just drop the new engine in and be finished. and wut if u have auto and u buy one with stick how hard is it to change and how much is that?
post Jun 12, 2003 - 7:24 PM
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is anybody going to help me?
post Jun 12, 2003 - 11:51 PM
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I'll let you know when i find out. My 4agze is on the way, should be here in a week or two, and i'm doing a auto to manual swap as well. I think Mynzeyes (John) is going to do a write up on how you do it. So far all is know is that you are gonna need to locate the gas pedal, clutch pedal, and brake pedal (+ plus all cables) from an manual 94-99 celica...

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post Jun 13, 2003 - 12:53 AM
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puffdog, let us know if you ever get this done (and especially, what shop did it for you and how much)..

I have an ST sitting in the garage (I'm trying to sell it) but if it doesn't, I want to do the 4AGZE swap (AE101).. Car is in great condition, except it has 160,000 Miles (well, it does run well still, no problems with the engine - maintained well - should last quite a bit longer) - swapping should rejuvinate it smile.gif

tpautomotive has an AE101 front clip in stock but it's 3K (yipes, before shipping)..

My wife thinks my Celica ST is heavy (well, I think she means that it's underpowered smile.gif ..

Anybody know if such a swap is legal in California?

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post Jun 13, 2003 - 12:57 AM
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no swap is legal in kali -_-
post Jun 13, 2003 - 12:59 AM
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QUOTE (hata @ Jun 12, 2003 - 10:11 PM)
no swap is legal in kali -_-

oh man, that sucks.. no choice for me then but to sell it (she's crazy, she'd rather have the tercel than my celica frown.gif

hmmm, aren't some kali peeps doing this? how are they getting away with it?

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post Jun 13, 2003 - 2:36 AM
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QUOTE (funks @ Jun 12, 2003 - 10:13 PM)
QUOTE (hata @ Jun 12, 2003 - 10:11 PM)
no swap is legal in kali -_-

oh man, that sucks.. no choice for me then but to sell it (she's crazy, she'd rather have the tercel than my celica frown.gif

hmmm, aren't some kali peeps doing this? how are they getting away with it?

because the guy at the emissions check place will pass you if he knows you or if you give him a tip, lol

i want to eventually do a awd conversion and 3sgte swap. and when time comes for an emmisions check i will drop in a $500 5sfe from a 99 celica and have it be 100% smog legal.

a swap with a USDM engine from the same car of at the oldest the same year as the car its goin in is legal.


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post Jun 13, 2003 - 5:27 PM
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QUOTE (97sccelica @ Jun 12, 2003 - 11:50 PM)
a swap with a USDM engine from the same car of at the oldest the same year as the car its goin in is legal.

Hmmm, the problem is there doesn't seem to be any USDM 4A-GZE engine newer than my '94 Celica..

I checked the engine options on the 94' and 95' Corolla and I don't believe they offered the 4A-GZE on USDM - only the JDM cars..

The 1st Gen MR2's don't count as they are older than the '94.

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post Jun 13, 2003 - 5:32 PM
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4agzes were also offered in the 1st gen MR2s.

HAHA i think its very laughable how you think you can switch between a 3sgte AWD and a 5sfe back and forth whenever you have an emissions check. its not exactly plug and play.


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post Jun 13, 2003 - 5:44 PM
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QUOTE (K2_Celica @ Jun 13, 2003 - 2:46 PM)
4agzes were also offered in the 1st gen MR2s.

HAHA i think its very laughable how you think you can switch between a 3sgte AWD and a 5sfe back and forth whenever you have an emissions check. its not exactly plug and play.


seems that us CALI peeps don't have a choice on the ST if we want to keep it legal (if we want an engine swap) - adding a Turbo to an ST would be quite ridiculous..

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post Jun 13, 2003 - 7:40 PM
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QUOTE (funks @ Jun 13, 2003 - 2:41 PM)
QUOTE (97sccelica @ Jun 12, 2003 - 11:50 PM)
a swap with a USDM engine from the same car of at the oldest the same year as the car its goin in is legal.

Hmmm, the problem is there doesn't seem to be any USDM 4A-GZE engine newer than my '94 Celica..

I checked the engine options on the 94' and 95' Corolla and I don't believe they offered the 4A-GZE on USDM - only the JDM cars..

The 1st Gen MR2's don't count as they are older than the '94.

the mr2 4agze only has 145 HP. not worth the effort.


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post Jun 13, 2003 - 7:41 PM
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QUOTE (K2_Celica @ Jun 13, 2003 - 2:46 PM)
4agzes were also offered in the 1st gen MR2s.

HAHA i think its very laughable how you think you can switch between a 3sgte AWD and a 5sfe back and forth whenever you have an emissions check. its not exactly plug and play.

yeah i thought that was funny. it's not switchable.


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post Jun 14, 2003 - 6:14 PM
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QUOTE (Charlie97L @ Jun 13, 2003 - 4:54 PM)
the mr2 4agze only has 145 HP.  not worth the effort.

But thats before a turbo right? It looks like the 4agze is the best option for the ST am I right? What all would you need to make it work? Does the tranny bolt up to it? If no1 wants to answer what all goes along with it just point me to a site that shows what ya need. How much money am I looking at realisticly, factor out labor because I can do it, I guess what i really need to know is if i have the engine what else do puffdog and I need to make it work? GRACIAS AMIGOS!

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