im sick of my slow @$$ car...., im gonna buy a honda or somethin Options

[daazndood]

u dont need a dsm. just get a GSR or a VTEC lude and it'll be enough. also, it'll last long as hell too.

i agree... but then i would have to hang myself and let every member on this site give me a punch to the breadbasket and the ladies can get a kick to the baby makers....

lol. dont tell anyone then.

get a wrx?

[creamed_corn]

Just get a crotch rocket. Cheaper than a car, sips gas, and faster than anything on four wheels.

I'll be seeing you in the emergency room, too.

[jdg371]

or a 125CC gokart.. faster than most car on 4wheels.. at least at launch LOL

[easternpiro1]

i was supposed to be gettin this old 92 yamaha from my boy but im scared now... but hmm...maybe i should get a dodge omni and turbo it! or buy my friends old dodge caravan (turbo) lol

[dustinkemp]

^^^i wanna see pics of a turboed caravan!

[easternpiro1]

yeah! that was back when chrystler turboed everything!!! (faster than a hooker on payday too!) he pulled up at the spot "pshhhhhh!!!!" everybody crowded around....i shoulda took pics....imma call him. he's an mr2 owner as well...i think i know him from 6gc?

This post has been edited by easternpiro1: Jul 13, 2006 - 8:59 PM

[lumbercis]

Okay, time to cut the bull****.

1. You are complaining that your STOCK AUTO 110hp ST is slow, so you want to upgrade to a 106hp Honda Civic? Please explain how that makes sense.

2. Hondas are not a more capable platform than Celicas. Let me say that again, HONDAS ARE NOT A MORE CAPABLE PLATFORM THAN CELICAS! The fast Hondas you see are all engine swapped except for a few higher-end models. I hate when everyone complains that their stock engined celica is slow, by comparing it to an engine swapped Honda. Stock Civics are slow as dog ****! Most modded civics have AT LEAST a B16 swap if the owner can afford it at all. We have the option of 4age, 3sge (slightly more powerful than a GSR engine), Beams 3sge (slightly better than a Type R Engine) or the holy 3sgte, which you can add about 50-70hp to with an intake exhaust and boost controller. Hondas have NO stock turbo engine swaps available, so quit complaining.

3. Which brings me to another point. Most fast hondas arent even putting out that much horsepower. Mostly they do what they do through weight. Why do you think the CRX is the most popular platform for serious drag racers? Cause it's a go-kart with body panels.

4. Yes, making a toyota fast might tend to be more expensive than making a honda fast, but that has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PLATFORM! It has to do with the fact that there are tens of thousands of kids out there spending millions of dollars on their hondas. Of course there will be more fast hondas. If we counted up every celica tuner out there, we probably wouldn't equal the amount of Honda tuners in one major city. So of course there will be some fast hondas out there. But that is a function of having a large community, not a superior platform.

5. I hate to state the GLARINGLY OBVIOUS, but the "celicas are slow" crap has got to end. "Celicas" are not slow. AMERICAN celicas are slow because we only got economy engines in the U.S. The next person that says, "Celicas were only meant to be sporty looking and economical" needs to get THWAPPED with a wet herring. The full celica line doesn't just consist of the U.S. models, it includes the SSII, SSIII, and GT-4. Go ahead and complain that we didn't get them, but lose the "celicas are slow" crap. Quick! Someone go tell Tufy to sell his GT-4 and get a HONDA so he can have a fast car!

6. If your car is slow, it's because you haven't made it fast. It doesn't even have to be that expensive. I think more people should consider NA swaps first rather than jumping straight to the 3sgte. A 4age or 3sge swap will be simpler, cost less, and with a little strategic weight reduction, will allow you to roast more than a few civics at the local meets, if thats what you are after.

7. Ack! Rant overload! In short, love your celica! if you don't think it has potential, you arent looking at the big picture.

J.

[brthrurik]

Okay, time to cut the bull****.

1. You are complaining that your STOCK AUTO 110hp ST is slow, so you want to upgrade to a 106hp Honda Civic? Please explain how that makes sense.

2. Hondas are not a more capable platform than Celicas. Let me say that again, HONDAS ARE NOT A MORE CAPABLE PLATFORM THAN CELICAS! The fast Hondas you see are all engine swapped except for a few higher-end models. I hate when everyone complains that their stock engined celica is slow, by comparing it to an engine swapped Honda. Stock Civics are slow as dog ****! Most modded civics have AT LEAST a B16 swap if the owner can afford it at all. We have the option of 4age, 3sge (slightly more powerful than a GSR engine), Beams 3sge (slightly better than a Type R Engine) or the holy 3sgte, which you can add about 50-70hp to with an intake exhaust and boost controller. Hondas have NO stock turbo engine swaps available, so quit complaining.

3. Which brings me to another point. Most fast hondas arent even putting out that much horsepower. Mostly they do what they do through weight. Why do you think the CRX is the most popular platform for serious drag racers? Cause it's a go-kart with body panels.

4. Yes, making a toyota fast might tend to be more expensive than making a honda fast, but that has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PLATFORM! It has to do with the fact that there are tens of thousands of kids out there spending millions of dollars on their hondas. Of course there will be more fast hondas. If we counted up every celica tuner out there, we probably wouldn't equal the amount of Honda tuners in one major city. So of course there will be some fast hondas out there. But that is a function of having a large community, not a superior platform.

5. I hate to state the GLARINGLY OBVIOUS, but the "celicas are slow" crap has got to end. "Celicas" are not slow. AMERICAN celicas are slow because we only got economy engines in the U.S. The next person that says, "Celicas were only meant to be sporty looking and economical" needs to get THWAPPED with a wet herring. The full celica line doesn't just consist of the U.S. models, it includes the SSII, SSIII, and GT-4. Go ahead and complain that we didn't get them, but lose the "celicas are slow" crap. Quick! Someone go tell Tufy to sell his GT-4 and get a HONDA so he can have a fast car!

6. If your car is slow, it's because you haven't made it fast. It doesn't even have to be that expensive. I think more people should consider NA swaps first rather than jumping straight to the 3sgte. A 4age or 3sge swap will be simpler, cost less, and with a little strategic weight reduction, will allow you to roast more than a few civics at the local meets, if thats what you are after.

7. Ack! Rant overload! In short, love your celica! if you don't think it has potential, you arent looking at the big picture.

J.

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and also, why dragrace a track car, our cars may not be incredibly fast but they are hella quick and very responsive. Lose 'em in the turns and they can't catch you in the straight away....

[94st_santos]

Well said lumbercis, that is the funnest part about 4 cylinders, making them go faster and learning as much as you can as you go. If you're tired of a slow car, easy solution, make it fast!!!

[Shocker]

well put...and swap for a manual tranny get a full exuast and intake and luagh as you get the jump on most car with twice the horsepower...sure they will have you in a higher top end but you probably wont get much of a chance to reach high speeds any way...ive been known to take v6 mustangs for mileabout an 1/8 mile...so dont be upset...our car can really kick some major as* you just have to give it a chance.. and ive takin all the hondas and accords that have revved up on me cept one...
and it was swapped and turboed..so i didnt have a chance.but i did have him for about a foot and a half at the begining.. i cant wait till i get my 4agze then im really gonna hurt some feelings specially after i boost the bajebus out of it if i decide i dont want the supercharger.and want to go turbo...be happy your a celica owner..= a billion cool points for you

[creamed_corn]

Okay, time to cut the bull****.

1. You are complaining that your STOCK AUTO 110hp ST is slow, so you want to upgrade to a 106hp Honda Civic? Please explain how that makes sense.

2. Hondas are not a more capable platform than Celicas. Let me say that again, HONDAS ARE NOT A MORE CAPABLE PLATFORM THAN CELICAS! The fast Hondas you see are all engine swapped except for a few higher-end models. I hate when everyone complains that their stock engined celica is slow, by comparing it to an engine swapped Honda. Stock Civics are slow as dog ****! Most modded civics have AT LEAST a B16 swap if the owner can afford it at all. We have the option of 4age, 3sge (slightly more powerful than a GSR engine), Beams 3sge (slightly better than a Type R Engine) or the holy 3sgte, which you can add about 50-70hp to with an intake exhaust and boost controller. Hondas have NO stock turbo engine swaps available, so quit complaining.

3. Which brings me to another point. Most fast hondas arent even putting out that much horsepower. Mostly they do what they do through weight. Why do you think the CRX is the most popular platform for serious drag racers? Cause it's a go-kart with body panels.

4. Yes, making a toyota fast might tend to be more expensive than making a honda fast, but that has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PLATFORM! It has to do with the fact that there are tens of thousands of kids out there spending millions of dollars on their hondas. Of course there will be more fast hondas. If we counted up every celica tuner out there, we probably wouldn't equal the amount of Honda tuners in one major city. So of course there will be some fast hondas out there. But that is a function of having a large community, not a superior platform.

5. I hate to state the GLARINGLY OBVIOUS, but the "celicas are slow" crap has got to end. "Celicas" are not slow. AMERICAN celicas are slow because we only got economy engines in the U.S. The next person that says, "Celicas were only meant to be sporty looking and economical" needs to get THWAPPED with a wet herring. The full celica line doesn't just consist of the U.S. models, it includes the SSII, SSIII, and GT-4. Go ahead and complain that we didn't get them, but lose the "celicas are slow" crap. Quick! Someone go tell Tufy to sell his GT-4 and get a HONDA so he can have a fast car!

6. If your car is slow, it's because you haven't made it fast. It doesn't even have to be that expensive. I think more people should consider NA swaps first rather than jumping straight to the 3sgte. A 4age or 3sge swap will be simpler, cost less, and with a little strategic weight reduction, will allow you to roast more than a few civics at the local meets, if thats what you are after.

7. Ack! Rant overload! In short, love your celica! if you don't think it has potential, you arent looking at the big picture.

J.

Man, where the hell has this guy been the whole time? He should be required to reply to every post in this forum.

[easternpiro1]

i never said my celi didnt have potential. i was complainingabout getting spanked by another st (mostly) im perfectly aware of the platforms and the requirements to get a fast celi. i was just bitchin and moaning....one of my famous rants... although i forgot about the 4a...thanx man...


thanks for the input! i appreciate ur pride man!!!

[Kadett]

Agreeing to Lumbercis on every point. Except the fact that swapping a 3S-GE or 4A-GE would be easier. The only easier part I can think of is that you dont have to think about a FMIC (and that only if you dont have a ST205/185RC engine) when getting the NA engines in. It still needs swapping trannies and modifying wiring harnesses.

You cant really add Tufy in the topic since I think that there is more money spend on that car then some people on this forum earn each year

BTW there is a Honda CRX Vtec here with a turbo, running about 300whp. That thing has wheelspin in 4th gear !!

This post has been edited by Kadett: Jul 15, 2006 - 12:05 PM

[XS4lv1Truch0x]

celi's arent slow

people are impatient

if you can go 70+ on a 4 cylinder, thats not slow

[Total_Package]

Maybe you shouldnt have spent all that money on cosmetic mods?
Seriously, why sell a car that not many people have for a Honda/Acura that everyone has?

I am surprised not many people here dont hit 14s. Maybe its because this is a small forum?

[easternpiro1]

the cosmetic mods were pretty cheap. the paint job was 533 my friend did the body work for free

[Delta_Phoenix]

/* insert extremely long rant */

This won't help matters any, but the 110hp rating on the ST is the rating at the crankshaft. I'm not sure about the Civics, but if they're putting 106 to the wheels, then they're slightly more powerful than an ST. But either way, it's a Honda.

i never said my celi didnt have potential. i was complainingabout getting spanked by another st (mostly) im perfectly aware of the platforms and the requirements to get a fast celi. i was just bitchin and moaning....one of my famous rants... although i forgot about the 4a...thanx man...


thanks for the input! i appreciate ur pride man!!!

I've had my Celica for... Christ, nearly 4 years. Check my mod list in my profile, it's nothing fancy. Its got dings, dents, paint chips, an oil leak, and has had a deer crash into the rear passenger quarter panel, and been slammed by an 80's-model Buick. It's nothing beautiful. Even more reasons why you'll rarely see a picture of my car from the passenger side.

But hey, I still love my car. I'm praying it lasts until I finish college and find a good job, so I can finally do the things I've wanted to do to it. Even if it does go kaplooey before then, I'll still keep it and fix it up later on.

Point is, I only wish my car had the aesthetics that your's does. Mine is all wheels and the purdy projectors. But I do have some killer NGK plug wires. They're blue. Anything blue adds 350 WHP. And my valve cover is nearly finished being polished, so there's another 850,000 WHP. I've driven plenty of cars, and rode in several that nearly broke my neck during acceleration, but I'm not jealous. Just enjoy the ride.

Addition: I drove a 1986 Pontiac Firebird with a 2.8l V6 before I bought the Celica. Going from that to the Celica was like trading in a tank for a dune buggy.

This post has been edited by Delta_Phoenix: Jul 17, 2006 - 5:36 PM

[pure_dx]

i thought we were done with this thread already? this is starting to sound like that one new guy's thread about wanting to make a fast celica. What was the saying in that thread again, hmmmmm...oh yeah, something like this "If you want cheap fast, dont get the celica" or something like that.....it all comes down to $$$$, i hate to admit it, but its true, when talking about speed, the civic guys has it better than the celica guys (at least here in the states) but seriously if you gonna get a honda, please dont get a civic

[celiracer]

3rd gen 3sgte swap is what im talking about Eastern.

This post has been edited by celiracer: Jul 25, 2006 - 6:29 PM

[hata]

Honda = small company

Toyota = Big company with better technology

There is many things to do with a celica...depends on where you want to go. Other than that...get a RWD car. FF are ...boring.