3sgte vs. Type R? Options

[brandonb87]

Heres a topic ive wondered and wanted some opinions about which is better, ive got some friends who run type r's but i dont know anyone with a 3sgte so im wondering what i can expect when i have mine put in

[CelicaST202]

boost on 3sgte

[KB-2]

what are teh specs for the 3sgte???
and whats so good about it??
im a newbie w/ the engines stuff

[kenjamatic]

i haven't been in either car before(or a celi with 3sgte) but if both stock...prob the type r might have the advantage...IMO...

This post has been edited by kenjamatic: Jul 10, 2006 - 10:49 PM

[burneeed]

Yupp Itr would beat a swapped celica. There pretty fast for a stock car thats fwd 4cyl... Never raced one but I was in one with just an exhaust and it pulled harder than my car.

[purplegt4]

you guys need to ride in one then.

3sgte ftw.

[creis]

um if you have a 3sgte swaped celica (say its a st185 with 200 hp) vrs a civic type r (if thats what you mean by "type r") its just a b16 vtech right? there only 160 hp its not gana win the celica. but I think I'm reading it wrong. explane "type r" for me.

This post has been edited by creis: Jul 10, 2006 - 11:11 PM

[purplegt4]

b18c5 '01
hp: 195 @ 8000 rpm
tq: 130 @ 7500 rpm

3sgte -
st185
hp 200 @ ?
tq 200 @ 3800 or 5000rpm?
someone help me out here

st205
hp: 251 @ 6000 rpm
tq: 225 @ 4000 rpm

This post has been edited by purplegt4: Jul 10, 2006 - 11:31 PM

[My2Celi]

3sgte ftw

[teamchancery]

i guess it depends on the 3sgte generation u get they come with 180 up to 260hp(from caldina)which is what i have now,so a 260 bhp stock 3sgte vs a stock itr 190hp 0r 220hp.Hope u putting in a lsd plus the celicas downfall is that they are heavy to an extent but jus remember the 3sgte was one of toyotas most dependable and fast race engines used in all kind of racing series so heritage is there.Lets jus say a type r wouldnt be a hard obstacle to overcome mod for mod

[purplegt4]

plus the celicas downfall is that they are heavy to an extent

the celica's lighter.
celica - Curb Weight 2400-2500lbs
itr - 2500-2600lbs

where u guys getting info to base your opinions?

[lagos]

you guys need to ride in one then.

3sgte ftw.

[hitcachi]

[burneeed]

ITR Will beat a swaped 6gc sorry. I hate to admit it... Yes I ride in one everyday.

[purplegt4]

ITR Will beat a swaped 6gc sorry. I hate to admit it... Yes I ride in one everyday.

what kind of itr's u racing?

[burneeed]

I have not yet to race one... I have road inside of one... but it definately pulled harder than my car.


The b16 civics are a joke there really slow.

[purplegt4]

you can't judge a car by the way if feels. some cars feel fast as sh!t but they're slowER. you'll be surprised.

This post has been edited by purplegt4: Jul 10, 2006 - 11:44 PM

[burneeed]

yes and it feels like it pulls harder than mine...... Have you been in a swapped celi before?

[purplegt4]

yup swapped 5th gen, orange one in woodbridge, va.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea...iendID=28324250

my cousin has a black itr.

3sgte = more torque feeling.

This post has been edited by purplegt4: Jul 10, 2006 - 11:49 PM

[Akimbo]

Horrible place to ask that question.

The bias here is uber.