Getting tired of the mods around here... Options

[Mynzeyes]

Thanks for the post John. The warning Manny has is real and its from me. Manny knows he was in the wrong for starting that thread. Rules were broken, so I stepped in and closed the thread. I though about the proper action, so I gave him a warning. Its real and it still stands right now. This is the only way I could give him a valid warning at this time.

I have talked with Manny about his other posts regarding bashing. You can talk with him about why it was handled that way. Other then that, we do not bash cars or other members on this site.

thank you jeff, for replying intelligently, and not just saying, "hey, it's a car forum" like the 2 previous posters. also, i do think the 'warning' in his sig is a little too playful to be taken seriously, (again, 3rd party opinion). and i'm still waiting to get coomer's take on my post, and think some action from him would be in order. simply to restore a little faith in the "community". i don't think that's too much to ask, given the circumstance. but we will see. .

-John-

[Defgeph]

Guys, could you please try to keep this thread clean. Talk about us doing a bad job, look at what we have to constantly deal with. Back and forth bickering.

[Defgeph]

thank you jeff, for replying intelligently, and not just saying, "hey, it's a car forum" like the 2 previous posters. also, i do think the 'warning' in his sig is a little too playful to be taken seriously, (again, 3rd party opinion). and i'm still waiting to get coomer's take on my post, and think some action from him would be in order. simply to restore a little faith in the "community". i don't think that's too much to ask, given the circumstance. but we will see. .

-John-

Its the best we can do right now. Contrary to what some may think. Why dont have all the power in the world. I can assure you the warning is not playful, its real. Thats the only way right now we can moderate, a moderator.

[Supersprynt]

That offended me Jeff. Please warn yourself.

[Defgeph]

That offended me Jeff. Please warn yourself.

Sorry about that, I warned myself.

[presure2]

the thing everyone dont realize here is WHY i did what i did, and to be honest, i dont have to explain it to anyone, but the mods.
they know why i did it, and the reason behind it.
as far as the miggy thread, it was a mistake by me to post it.
100% my fault.
the "so called" threat against dan was nothing of the sort, john.
since you dont know what happen last year at the CSP meet dan attended when he, being underage, brought his OWN booze, decided he was gonna drink in a state park where it is illegal to do so..it was a personal joke between him and i, and i think he gets it

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

Mynzeyes, I wish you wouldn't have left as a moderator. But that's the way things go. I use to be really upset with this site, which was why I left for awhile. I don't know if anyone noticed, I'm not cool enough to really pay attention to. But that does bring me to point I need to make. The elite groups and little clicks on here do get annoying. I don't like the abuse of power thing. I understand the need for moderators, and I think they've done a better job keeping this place clean and nice lately. If I have to choose between getting bashed on by half the site, or just a moderator or two, I would choose just the moderators. But that leads to a lack of faith in the established rule. I don't want that. I hate police because they abuse their power. Doesn't mean that every one of them is bad, but it happens. Manny warned me once for calling him a communist. I didn't even mean it as a bad thing, but it happened. I like Manny, he is a good worker and loves his car, but that wasn't right of him. That's something that was done a long time ago, but just an example and something that bothers me. When I see him saying bad things to others, its something that doesn't set well with me. I don't mean to just pick on him, sorry Manny, even if that's what I'm doing. I like things, and I'll continue to offer my services around here. I want to say that there's nothing wrong with abusing power, but there is. I understand how people do it, it would be easy. All you have to do is ask yourself (Moderators and "Elitist" members), "Am I abusing the power that I have to exclude or push others around?" If you are, just stop. I feel no public or personal apologize are necessary. If you truly believe you are doing the right thing, the stay the course.

[devilsden97]

Ok, i know everyone is going to say im part of the clique...frankly i dont give a damn. heres how i see it. I get yelled at just like everyone else. Anyone on this forum can vouch. I currently have a warning of 20% from something i posted about a weekago that was deleted for "content". (it happend to be deleted by manny himself, and I was warned by manny as well) Honestly, the mods are people, not machines. They have to use there judgment, not everything is black or white. There are enough things on this forum that i would close as a mod that they leave open, and there are things that they close that i personally would leave open. Id have to agree with alot of what the mods have said, (including Coomer) if you had a kid (5 years of age) and you were looking at the site, and he walked into the room, and you have/felt like you would need to minimize the screen, then it doesn't belong on the forums what so ever.

I like this forum, there isnt ne bull crap, or threads that go on and on for pages apon pages of bickering and arguing futial points.


Mods are doing a good job, they make mistakes, there human, just like everyone else on this site. You can second guess every decision they make, but in the end, they (as a group) have the final say on what goes on.

Mods =

[Mynzeyes]

the thing everyone dont realize here is WHY i did what i did, and to be honest, i dont have to explain it to anyone, but the mods.
they know why i did it, and the reason behind it.

good job skirting the issue. if that's the case, i could, if i wanted, bash anyone on this site, bc i have my reasons, and i don't need to explain it to anyone. i only have to explain it to certain people. then it's ok for me to be a prick.

that's essentially what you just said, in a nutshell. see how mature that sounds?

i don't think that really works, bc that is exactly what's being said, and favoritism is being shown.

[presure2]

good job skirting the issue.

john, im not "skirting" the issue at all.
my point by saying that was to not bring up all the bull with burn again.
ive warned him pleanty of times before about the crap.
the post was a "taste of your own medicine" sort of thing, again not that i have to explain myself to you.

[Defgeph]

There is no need to attack people here. Please stop using insults. Last time, please keep this thread clean.

[hurley97]

its a community of people. people don't always agree with each other. thats just the way the world works.

it is necessary to have people to keep a community in line. and yet again, people are not always going to agree with the way they do things. but reguardless of how anyone else feels about how things are run, we werent chosen to make the decisions

there is a lot the mods have to deal with and Coomer chose them for a reason. Coomer has also said that he backs his mods 100%, it's his site

[Akimbo]

This is my thread, I started it. John can talk about what ever he wants. I'll deem it on my topic or not.

[devilsden97]

its a community of people. people don't always agree with each other. thats just the way the world works.

This community....is OPTIONAL! for those who don't like it, your not being forced to be apart of 6gc.net. No one has a gun to your head.

This post has been edited by devilsden97: Jul 24, 2006 - 3:18 PM

[playr158]

ok i see where some of this is going and John thanks for your post it pretty much covers the issue at hand and i personnally know there are alot of people who have left because of issues like this one or are getting frustrated as such..
although it is good pressure has admitted his fault on that thread its closed lets forgive and forget..defgeph has warned him lets have that be a reminder..
on the meet comment i won't even start on that i've delt with it already

but right now in this community i believe here lies one of our LARGEST problems is this attitude

the thing everyone dont realize here is WHY i did what i did, and to be honest, i dont have to explain it to anyone, but the mods.

i used to consider this a family....if someone does something they EXPLAIN to the family why they have done what they did and with openess...
this attitude shown here is elitest and shows that someone considers themselves above the rest....when infact you are not above anyone else...you arn't special....and yes you DO have to explain why you do things...this is a community not a heirarchy of totalitarian leadership...if your going to close or delete something you need to post up WHY it is being done....basically lets look at history "NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION..." "NO MODERATOR ACTION WITHOUT EXPLAINATION"


obviously when a group of people get together to address a problem...it means there is one that needs to be fixed...it doesn't me people make stuff up

This post has been edited by playr158: Jul 24, 2006 - 3:24 PM

[jgreening]

when you get a little older, you will be surprised at how your insignificant reply on such a matter really is quite trivial, and instead, you could have offered an educated response to the matter at hand, instead of trying to make some low-brow remark pointing out my assumed immaturity.

Cute. My reply was MEANT to be insignificant because the topic IS insignificant. Here is my educated response: Complaints regarding this matter are silly and sound very whiney in the grand scheme of things. I would have thought someone as mature as yourself would have figured out what I meant.

I happen to agree that the mods have been a little lock happy in the past but, you know what? People have to make those calls and those people will not always agree with me. The point is, I have pointed out the exact same issue before in a calm respectful matter that didn't sound near as immature or alarmist as your post. In the end, the administrator and mods can do what they want because they run the site. If I don't like it after raising the matter calmly and professionally, I could either: (a) drop it; (b) leave; or © cry or bitch about it. I happen to believe that there is no honor in the third choice.

[Mynzeyes]

good job skirting the issue.

john, im not "skirting" the issue at all.
my point by saying that was to not bring up all the bull with burn again.
ive warned him pleanty of times before about the crap.
the post was a "taste of your own medicine" sort of thing, again not that i have to explain myself to you.

how is dodging any sort of defense a taste of my own medicine? bc you don't have to answer to me? i think the medicine i offered was more of a: "this is what's wrong, and here's proof".

i don't care if you do answer or not. your lack of effort proves that you don't care what people think of you, or why you take certain actions. also, based on mine and others' opinions, the lack of a response represents a lack of any justifiable reason. that is, by traditional standards, rather shady, and not very productive. there is a general concern over things, and you are tucking your tail.

you don't have to answer that, obviously. as you don't need to. you don't have to burn me, to offer a defense. that's what a debate is. i offered all the information very maturely, and it was merely a chance for someone to explain things to the people concerned.

remember, these are not my direct thoughts, though i agree with them, I DO NOT CARE IF ACTION IS TAKEN. i'm just offering up everything into a structured point, and pointing out the items in question.

again manny, i dont' care if you tell why or not, the only thing that matters is what coomer thinks of the structured representation i put forth.

he'll either read it, and do nothing. or he'll read it, and take action. EITHER IS FINE WITH ME. forgive me for offering everything up in a structure where it actually makes sense, and makes you think about even considering to offer up a defense. i am truely sorry.

-John-

[Mynzeyes]

here's the thing. debating is fun. that's why i offered it up. it's not because i tihnk everything needs to change or the world will end. again, i can't stress it enough, WHATEVER HAPPENS IS FINE WITH ME. i just like when people have to actually put forth a little effort into things.

i'm sorry i have presented a topic to 6gc.net that makes people think, and possibly show emotion. i'm sorry i've asked so much of the 'leaders' of this forum. forgive me. please. i beg you. my life depends on it. </sarcasm>

if you dont' want to reply, that's fine, but i'm just going to point out that the lack of a defense is not a defense, and it ruins credibility.

[Jen]

k, this is stupid.

then delete my post. i just think this is ridiculous.

This post has been edited by Jen: Jul 24, 2006 - 3:29 PM

[presure2]

good job skirting the issue.

john, im not "skirting" the issue at all.
my point by saying that was to not bring up all the bull with burn again.
ive warned him pleanty of times before about the crap.
the post was a "taste of your own medicine" sort of thing, again not that i have to explain myself to you.

how is dodging any sort of defense a taste of my own medicine? bc you don't have to answer to me? i think the medicine i offered was more of a: "this is what's wrong, and here's proof".

i don't care if you do answer or not. your lack of effort proves that you don't care what people think of you, or why you take certain actions. also, based on mine and others' opinions, the lack of a response represents a lack of any justifiable reason. that is, by traditional standards, rather shady, and not very productive. there is a general concern over things, and you are tucking your tail.

you don't have to answer that, obviously. as you don't need to. you don't have to burn me, to offer a defense. that's what a debate is. i offered all the information very maturely, and it was merely a chance for someone to explain things to the people concerned.

remember, these are not my direct thoughts, though i agree with them, I DO NOT CARE IF ACTION IS TAKEN. i'm just offering up everything into a structured point, and pointing out the items in question.

again manny, i dont' care if you tell why or not, the only thing that matters is what coomer thinks of the structured representation i put forth.

he'll either read it, and do nothing. or he'll read it, and take action. EITHER IS FINE WITH ME. forgive me for offering everything up in a structure where it actually makes sense, and makes you think about even considering to offer up a defense. i am truely sorry.

-John-

no john, didnt mean YOU when i said that. i was talking about the situation with burn.
and when i say i dont have to answer why, you guys are missing where i say to anyone but the MODS. meaning chris, jeff, peiter and romas.