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post Jul 18, 2006 - 3:23 AM
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My English is nothing special... I know that. So... just wondering what you folks usually do when you see:

1. just wrong letter (never, newer, nover... etc.)
2. letters fine, or just bad tense (I have been working since 7am, I am working since 7am, etc. )
3. total nonsence (reversing light, backing-up light, recede light, etc.)

So what you will do?


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post Jul 18, 2006 - 8:48 AM
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I can't stand people with their horrible grammar, I think it's one of the reasons why a few people are so frustrated at some of these newer members.

Malpaso, your english is better than some people who have grown up in the USA. We notice some of the horrible grammar from some of our members, most of us just ignore it & try to answer the best we can anyway.

Coomer should turn on some kind of forum spell check for people.
post Jul 18, 2006 - 9:16 AM
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i dont bother to reply unless its something that poses a danger to others like brake failure or the car exploding.


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post Jul 18, 2006 - 10:36 AM
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For me... if I see that the person is from outside the states or English speaking country I will try my best to understand what the person wrote and reply best I can.

6g Celicas can be found all over the world, so we need to welcome people that cannot speak or write English to well to post on the forums, at least I do.
post Jul 18, 2006 - 11:57 AM
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I will try my best to understand. I know for a fact that our fingers don't always hit the "correct key". Sentences like this:
I drove my car today and i tdied on me on te highway.
should be pretty understandable tongue.gif

The only thing I can't stand is the incorrect usage of capitcal letters...

I Drove My Car Today And It Died On Me On The Highway.
or
I dRoVe mY cAR tODay AnD iT diEd oN mE oN ThE higHwAY.
or
I DROVE MY CAR TODAY AND IT DIED ON ME ON THE HIGHWAY.


Those tick me off tongue.gif


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post Jul 19, 2006 - 7:21 PM
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QUOTE(sinner96ST @ Jul 18, 2006 - 8:48 AM) [snapback]457650[/snapback]

I can't stand people with their horrible grammar, I think it's one of the reasons why a few people are so frustrated at some of these newer members.
Malpaso, your english is better than some people who have grown up in the USA. We notice some of the horrible grammar from some of our members, most of us just ignore it & try to answer the best we can anyway.

Coomer should turn on some kind of forum spell check for people.


So just newer members have bad grammar? oh to have been around for years . . . .
This site has much bigger issues than a few spelling errors and typo's wink.gif


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post Jul 19, 2006 - 7:30 PM
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This isn't a college essay where whatever you write is placed under a microscope. As long as you get the point across, there shouldn't be any problem with it. Sometimes people just type really quickly and don't bother proofreading their post.

I maen yuo knw yuo cna stll undrstnd wht Im wrting rght? laugh.gif
post Jul 19, 2006 - 7:33 PM
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QUOTE(Chanh55 @ Jul 18, 2006 - 8:36 AM) [snapback]457689[/snapback]

For me... if I see that the person is from outside the states or English speaking country I will try my best to understand what the person wrote and reply best I can.

6g Celicas can be found all over the world, so we need to welcome people that cannot speak or write English to well to post on the forums, at least I do.



I agree with this totally. I could care less how people spell, compose sentences,
or grammer in general. I am here for the cars.


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post Jul 20, 2006 - 1:47 AM
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QUOTE(LeonStryfe @ Jul 20, 2006 - 2:30 AM) [snapback]458320[/snapback]

This isn't a college essay where whatever you write is placed under a microscope. As long as you get the point across, there shouldn't be any problem with it. Sometimes people just type really quickly and don't bother proofreading their post.

I maen yuo knw yuo cna stll undrstnd wht Im wrting rght? laugh.gif


OMG! Yes I can!!! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


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post Jul 20, 2006 - 10:03 PM
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As an English major I feel the need to comment tongue.gif

The point of a language is to express yourself or make yourself understood, therefore, as long as others can understand you, then you are successfully communicating!

This doesn't mean that utterly horrible grammar doesn't annoy me sometimes. I know I miss keys or hit extra ones all the time. Hell, I misspell crap in almost every post, I think. I can deal with minor stuff, and members whose native tongues aren't English I easily forgive, but sometimes really poor grammar just makes you look idiotic. I try to imagine a person actually speaking when I read posts, and if a post can't be read out loud at least fairly smoothly, then I wind up picturing the poster as a babbling toddler with a stuttering problem as he throws a temper tantrum...


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post Jul 21, 2006 - 5:52 AM
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QUOTE(mzztoyota @ Jul 21, 2006 - 5:03 AM) [snapback]458831[/snapback]

As an English major I feel the need to comment tongue.gif

The point of a language is to express yourself or make yourself understood, therefore, as long as others can understand you, then you are successfully communicating!

This doesn't mean that utterly horrible grammar doesn't annoy me sometimes. I know I miss keys or hit extra ones all the time. Hell, I misspell crap in almost every post, I think. I can deal with minor stuff, and members whose native tongues aren't English I easily forgive, but sometimes really poor grammar just makes you look idiotic. I try to imagine a person actually speaking when I read posts, and if a post can't be read out loud at least fairly smoothly, then I wind up picturing the poster as a babbling toddler with a stuttering problem as he throws a temper tantrum...



I had to look in dictionary for (almost) every word from that last sentence biggrin.gif. There are so many words to learn every day laugh.gif Keep it up wink.gif

This post has been edited by malpaso: Jul 21, 2006 - 5:52 AM


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post Jul 21, 2006 - 8:51 AM
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lol....more than glad to help expand your vocabulary, my friend smile.gif

here:

my favorite English word is "lycanthropy." It means "of, or having to do with werewolves."

my boyfriend's favorite words is "aphrodisiac." I'm not sure if I spelled that perfectly, but you can look up the correct spelling and definition on your own wink.gif


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post Jul 21, 2006 - 10:34 AM
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QUOTE(mzztoyota @ Jul 21, 2006 - 3:51 PM) [snapback]459021[/snapback]

lol....more than glad to help expand your vocabulary, my friend smile.gif

here:

my favorite English word is "lycanthropy." It means "of, or having to do with werewolves."

my boyfriend's favorite words is "aphrodisiac." I'm not sure if I spelled that perfectly, but you can look up the correct spelling and definition on your own wink.gif


laugh.gif word "aphrodisiac" is exatly the same in my mother tongue wink.gif (same is "lycanthropy"). Generally all words based in Latin are here the same wink.gif. However I'm glad I have someone for conversation here, who wants to teach me something about language biggrin.gif wink.gif .


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post Jul 21, 2006 - 10:42 AM
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Teach us something from your language. =)

Oh yeah fyi.. you wouldn't say "Mother Tongue", that sounds kinda weird. I kind of took it literal. I was like your mom's tongue? what?

Better phrase may be, "Native Language". smile.gif

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post Jul 21, 2006 - 1:25 PM
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QUOTE(Chanh55 @ Jul 21, 2006 - 5:42 PM) [snapback]459059[/snapback]

Teach us something from your language. =)

Oh yeah fyi.. you wouldn't say "Mother Tongue", that sounds kinda weird. I kind of took it literal. I was like your mom's tongue? what?

Better phrase may be, "Native Language". smile.gif


Oh... What a stupid dictionary I have been using biggrin.gif Thank you... Thank you so much.

When I was searching right term for "Native Language", see what were results:

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"Native Language" was last! (and of course first should be that "most suitable" laugh.gif)



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post Jul 21, 2006 - 1:34 PM
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Last but not least my friend. =)
post Jul 21, 2006 - 5:19 PM
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I love it, online language lab in a Celica forum, lol smile.gif

Of course the latin based words would be similar or the same, silly me (duh!)

malpaso...are you learning a lot from English forums? I wonder if I visited Spanish sites if I would learn Spanish faster....hmmmm....


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post Jul 22, 2006 - 1:37 AM
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QUOTE(mzztoyota @ Jul 22, 2006 - 12:19 AM) [snapback]459232[/snapback]

...are you learning a lot from English forums? I wonder if I visited Spanish sites if I would learn Spanish faster....hmmmm....


Yes and no wink.gif

words and 'special' terms: absolutely!
I will never use "mother tongue" again biggrin.gif
spelling: Yes, yes, yes!
We have the same splelling and speaking in my my native language (wink.gif) so it's important practice writing, especialy doubled letters in words are horrible biggrin.gif
speaking: of course not...
I know many new words from here, but I have never heard pronunciation... So this is (more-less) useless... kindasad.gif
phrases (or my dictionaty found vocable 'collocations' for that.. what a word??!!! biggrin.gif ): a lot!
I'm surpiced when are some words used... and what word is used... biggrin.gif. really instructive smile.gif
grammar: absolutely not...
No one ever told me that my tence or "prepositives" (is that correct? I'm talking about 'of, at, in, on' words.) is bad... example, my sentence: 'I have that from ebay'... But many times I saw here 'I have that of ebay' so probably using 'of' is better... cwm13.gif but... who knows?

result:
forum here makes me think in English more fluent (more and more I don't need to look in dictionary for words), that's great. I have been here for 6 month and I feel my English is 10x better... (I hope laugh.gif ). I mean it's amazing practicing English and talk about cars at once smile.gif. However, without some grammar knowledge it's nothing (because you never know that you wrote exactly what you want... and some kind of 'self-confidence' is gone)... so it's 75% practicing and 25% learning.

just wondering... much errors in this post?

This post has been edited by malpaso: Jul 22, 2006 - 1:38 AM


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post Jul 22, 2006 - 10:34 AM
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QUOTE(malpaso @ Jul 22, 2006 - 1:37 AM) [snapback]459387[/snapback]

QUOTE(mzztoyota @ Jul 22, 2006 - 12:19 AM) [snapback]459232[/snapback]

...are you learning a lot from English forums? I wonder if I visited Spanish sites if I would learn Spanish faster....hmmmm....


Yes and no wink.gif

words and 'special' terms: absolutely!
I will never use "mother tongue" again biggrin.gif
spelling: Yes, yes, yes!
We have the same splelling and speaking in my my native language (wink.gif) so it's important practice writing, especialy doubled letters in words are horrible biggrin.gif
speaking: of course not...
I know many new words from here, but I have never heard pronunciation... So this is (more-less) useless... kindasad.gif
phrases (or my dictionaty found vocable 'collocations' for that.. what a word??!!! biggrin.gif ): a lot!
I'm surpiced when are some words used... and what word is used... biggrin.gif. really instructive smile.gif
grammar: absolutely not...
No one ever told me that my tence or "prepositives" (is that correct? I'm talking about 'of, at, in, on' words.) is bad... example, my sentence: 'I have that from ebay'... But many times I saw here 'I have that of ebay' so probably using 'of' is better... cwm13.gif but... who knows?

result:
forum here makes me think in English more fluent (more and more I don't need to look in dictionary for words), that's great. I have been here for 6 month and I feel my English is 10x better... (I hope laugh.gif ). I mean it's amazing practicing English and talk about cars at once smile.gif. However, without some grammar knowledge it's nothing (because you never know that you wrote exactly what you want... and some kind of 'self-confidence' is gone)... so it's 75% practicing and 25% learning.

just wondering... much errors in this post?



...actually, "I have that from ebay" is more correct than "I have that of ebay," though I think "I got that from ebay" would be a better word choice. wink.gif

and other than that, your entire post has excellent English, except that instead of:

"No one ever told me that my tense or "prepositives" (prepositions?)...is bad"

it should read "No one ever told me that my tense or "prepositives" (prepositions?)...are bad.

Again, other than that, you're doing better than some native English speakers I know! tongue.gif


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post Jul 22, 2006 - 2:10 PM
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QUOTE(mzztoyota @ Jul 22, 2006 - 5:34 PM) [snapback]459475[/snapback]


...actually, "I have that from ebay" is more correct than "I have that of ebay," though I think "I got that from ebay" would be a better word choice. wink.gif

and other than that, your entire post has excellent English, except that instead of:

"No one ever told me that my tense or "prepositives" (prepositions?)...is bad"

it should read "No one ever told me that my tense or "prepositives" (prepositions?)...are bad.

Again, other than that, you're doing better than some native English speakers I know! tongue.gif


Thank you! That's real compliment for me, particularly from you (English major)...


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