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post Aug 10, 2006 - 10:45 AM
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http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe...ror/index.html


oh boy...apparently some of the planes were coming here


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post Aug 10, 2006 - 10:47 AM
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well just go to cnn.com..or any news website....trust me its big news right now


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post Aug 10, 2006 - 10:56 AM
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Yeah I heard about this. Its kinda weird like people at my work didnt hear about it. How can you live your life not knowing whats going on in the world?!

Anyways yeah its crazy but luckily it was stopped.

U.S.: Airline terror plot 'close to execution'
Security chief: Plans reminiscent of al Qaeda

Thursday, August 10, 2006; Posted: 11:46 a.m. EDT (15:46 GMT)

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Manage Alerts | What Is This? WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Terrorists were in the final stages of planning to blow up planes heading to the United States from Britain, U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said Thursday.

The plot was the "greatest terrorist threat" against the United States since 9/11, government officials are saying privately.

Information gathered after recent arrests in Pakistan convinced British investigators they had to act immediately to stop the plot, sources told CNN.

A British security official told Reuters news service the plotters could have been just days away from their attacks.

The plans were "suggestive of an al Qaeda plot," Chertoff said.

British police said they had arrested 21 suspects in the plot to blow up passenger jets flying between the United Kingdom and the United States.

The effects of the plot rippled across the globe Thursday.


The U.S. raised the terror threat level to "severe" for all flights leaving Britain for the United States. Britain raised its alert level to "critical."


The plot involved hiding liquid explosives in carry-on luggage, U.S. officials said.


Passengers at all U.S. and British airports, and those boarding U.S.-bound flights at other international airports, are banned from taking any liquids onto planes. British police are also banning passengers from carrying electronic key fobs, which have the potential to trigger bombs. (Watch what passengers must do at the world's busiest international airport -- 3:06)


A U.S. administration official said the plot targeted Continental, United, British Airways and American Airlines flights to New York, Washington and California. (Map of flight delays)


Six to 10 flights were targeted, U.S. officials said.


U.S. and British officials said some suspects could still be on the loose and their investigations were continuing.


Flights were canceled or delayed at airports across Europe and the United States as the new security measures produced massive lines at airports. (Full story)


In a sign of the heightened security, Chertoff said the U.S. was dispatching extra air marshals to Britain.


Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney ordered the National Guard to Boston's Logan Airport.

Police said they were still raiding businesses and homes, and Chertoff said it was unclear if all suspects were in custody.

Chertoff said the plotters were "getting close to the execution phase."

"There were very concrete steps under way to execute all elements of the plan," he said.

The plot was "intended to be mass murder on an unimaginable scale," London's Metropolitan Police Deputy Commissioner Paul Stephenson said. (Full story)

British investigators are telling the U.S. that terrorists planned "to get on board with liquid substances that when mixed could be turned into something that could be detonated." (

'Untold death and destruction' planned -- 2:37)

"What makes it frightening is the sophistication to turn relatively common materials into a dangerous" bomb, a U.S. intelligence official told CNN.

Passengers "were not yet sitting on an airplane," but were very close to traveling, a senior U.S. counterterrorism official told The Associated Press.

Chertoff said the plan was reminiscent of a plot by 9/11 coordinator Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, who in 1995 had envisioned detonating bombs on 11 airlines possibly traveling over the Pacific Ocean.

The plot was "as sophisticated as any we have seen in recent years as far as terrorism is concerned," Chertoff said. (Watch Chertoff detail the threat to blow up jetliners -- 7:38)

CNN terror analyst Peter Bergen said two factors pointed to the influence of al Qaeda. He said al Qaeda was "obsessed" with commercial aviation and that the timing of the plot was "very interesting."

"It's not clear when this was going to be implemented ... but we are coming up on the fifth anniversary of 9/11. They do want to make a big statement," he said on CNN's "American Morning."

Britain's threat warning level has been raised to "critical" -- meaning an attack is expected imminently.

The U.S. threat level has been raised to the highest level of "severe," or red, for commercial flights originating in the United Kingdom bound for the United States, according to the Department of Homeland Security. (Full story)

In addition, the threat level has been raised to "high," or orange for all commercial flights operating in or coming to the United States, the DHS said.

The nation's overall terror threat level has not been altered.

Thursday was the first time the DHS has raised the threat level for a specific group of flights.

New security restrictions
"Due to the nature of the threat revealed by this investigation, we are prohibiting any liquids, including beverages, hair gels, and lotions from being carried on the airplane," a DHS statement said.

Increased security means airline passengers around the country should show up at least two hours early for all flights, an official with the Transportation Security Administration told CNN. (Watch tips on how to get through security faster -- 1:45)

British and U.S. security agencies quickly moved to impose strict limits on carry-on items in the wake of Thursday's arrests, causing extended delays at airport security checkpoints. (Full story)

The British Airports Authority said no hand luggage would be allowed onto planes leaving British airports until further notice.

British Airways canceled all short haul flights in or out of Heathrow Airport for Thursday, and delays were stacking flights up at airports across Europe. (Full story)

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post Aug 10, 2006 - 10:56 AM
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I just wish the US would take a few ideas from the UK and use intelligence to stop attacks rather than allow the attack and retaliate against the wrong country later

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post Aug 10, 2006 - 11:00 AM
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QUOTE(fastgt @ Aug 10, 2006 - 10:56 AM) [snapback]467403[/snapback]

I just wish the US would take a few ideas from the UK and use intelligence to stop attacks rather than allow the attack and retaliate against the wrong country later

**yea i know, i just put on my flame suit**


i still say the US Government was behind 9/11...blah.


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post Aug 10, 2006 - 11:02 AM
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john i agree with you completely...but like always there are people who disagree.

have you seen the loose change video?


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post Aug 10, 2006 - 11:03 AM
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QUOTE(fastgt @ Aug 10, 2006 - 11:02 AM) [snapback]467408[/snapback]

john i agree with you completely...but like always there are people who disagree.

have you seen the loose change video?


yep. amazingly done. i even suspected it a loooong time before that. that just reinforces it that much more.


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post Aug 10, 2006 - 11:05 AM
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yeah that video really puts a new perspective on our gov't


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post Aug 10, 2006 - 11:09 AM
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QUOTE(fastgt @ Aug 10, 2006 - 11:05 AM) [snapback]467411[/snapback]

yeah that video really puts a new perspective on our gov't


i just like how they come out and say how there were so many people caught, and how this reinforces that we are at war with extremists, bla bla bla...but we didn't catch shxt. the british police caught them. our government couldnt' do anythintg about it, let alone our police. if it wasn't for the UK not having their heads up their asses, we'd have another one to blame on bin laden...whom we would then not even look for..........

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post Aug 10, 2006 - 11:20 AM
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its funny on the video how 10 or so of those involved 9/11 are living happily in their countries.....

odd dont people die when planes crash???

Wheres Bin Laden????? Do you think a CIA trained terrorist will allow himself to get caught that easy?

seriously were all f*ed


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post Aug 10, 2006 - 11:30 AM
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QUOTE(fastgt @ Aug 10, 2006 - 11:20 AM) [snapback]467413[/snapback]

odd dont people die when planes crash???


not always. but hey, they told us everyone died in all the crashes, and the planes melted away. smile.gif. and we aren't finding bin laden, bc we aren't looking for him, bc he had nothing to do with it bc of the state he's in. bend over everyone, so the government can blow more smoke up your asses.


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post Aug 10, 2006 - 11:36 AM
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You know if the gov't wanted to do a better job of tricking us with crappy videos and crappy stories....they should of hired FOX...theyre good at making stuff up


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post Aug 10, 2006 - 11:42 AM
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And to believe i used to stand so strongly behind our government...
that all went to **** since the past few years..
We need that V guy...
Just goes to show power money and greed will run all and every no matter what a country was founded on.

i hate when i hear people dis America but hell we set ourselves up for it...

and that bin laden crap...We could have found him if we reeally wanted..

but bush(i wont capitalize his name) had to make a big deal out of it and let every body know and send all these kids...my freinds.18yrs old..1 left 3 monthes after his birthday
and just had to make it all a big show..when hes proll calling bin laden on the telephone telling him he has o leave the hole he is in becuase some of the kids that are over there and want to come home..are getting to close to finding him..on their own....Sorry about my rant but this stuff is bullcrap.

i support the American people and Soldiers..not those bad people in the government (as my freind in afaganistans 4 year old little brother calls thm) yeah hes knows their idiots

it sad that it had to come to this


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Yeah how come we cant seem to find Bin Laden after all this time but yet we can find fugitives who flee to other countries. I call BS on the fact we cant find some cave dweller.

America may be the best place to live in the world right now but it sure sucks to be the laughing center piece of it too!

I say we all go to Canada :-)


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post Aug 10, 2006 - 11:54 AM
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at least they'll give us the ST205 up there lol laugh.gif


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Yeah I read that headline this morning....its pretty disheartening. My girlfriend is going to be studying abroad in London next semester so the prospects of either her or I getting on a flight to go there is a little bit scary.

I'm not really one to trust commercial aviation in the first place, after 9/11 and witnessing everything first hand the next day it really sticks in your mind.....but its a screwed up world for sure.

I hate to say it too, but I really don't trust our government much either, theres some pretty interesting (to say the least...) things out there if you do a little research and look into the incongruencies that exist in just about everything our government has done since things have really taken a change. I'm not going to make any profound political statements on here because someone will take it out of context and get upset, but lets just say theres alot that isn't talked about that should be addressed.


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post Aug 10, 2006 - 12:05 PM
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and yet commercial plane travel is STILL the #1 safest way to travel woot!

you have more chances of getting shot in a car jacking the being on a terrorist plane
post Aug 10, 2006 - 12:08 PM
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QUOTE(playr158 @ Aug 10, 2006 - 10:05 AM) [snapback]467432[/snapback]

and yet commercial plane travel is STILL the #1 safest way to travel woot!

you have more chances of getting shot in a car jacking the being on a terrorist plane


yea thats right, but if the u.s.....bush....used his monkey brain instead of having a trigger finger, terrorist attacks can be reduced

gee dumba$$ why did you cut homeland security funding knowing well we were about to get raped without lube


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QUOTE(fastgt @ Aug 10, 2006 - 1:08 PM) [snapback]467433[/snapback]

QUOTE(playr158 @ Aug 10, 2006 - 10:05 AM) [snapback]467432[/snapback]

and yet commercial plane travel is STILL the #1 safest way to travel woot!

you have more chances of getting shot in a car jacking the being on a terrorist plane


yea thats right, but if the u.s.....bush....used his monkey brain instead of having a trigger finger, terrorist attacks can be reduced

gee dumba$$ why did you cut homeland security funding knowing well we were about to get raped without lube


stop being ignorant....you realize Bush can't do anything with out CONGRESSIONAL approval
we have a 3 branch system...the PEOPLE elect all THREE....stop being an ignorant asshole and trying to point a finger....go learn how your government works then come back and talk...we are one of the LEAST terrorised countries in the WORLD...congradulations we've had 1 attack...have you looked around us..people live in fear each day hearing rockets over their houses while you sleep in sunny california in your warm ass bed...how freaking ignorant are you...if you do look around there is lots of "prevention" and upgraded security...although not the best yet...and yes the UK did detect and stop those guys that is bloody awesome and who isn't happy about that...lives have been saved...but stop your ignorant dumbass finger pointing at one person...if you wanna sit at your computer in your warm and comfy house and bitch about ****...then go freaking do something about it..oh wait californians did..they elected the terminator to eliminate all rolleyes.gif try voting for someone you think will do a better job, get people to support your cause....CHANGE sumthing instead of sitting on your ass and bitching about it

(note i'm not a bush hugger i'm simply stating the facts)
(and fast i'm really not directing this towards you, but towards the larger population)

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