alltrac still no go :( Options

[MaskedMan]

whats wrong with the car?

Well let's see...

Car smokes a lot from exhuast, smells like fuel. Oil smells like fuel and i just changed the oil.

Car will start up fine but will not idle unless you give it throttle. New plugs, and i have an MSD high vibration coil installed. I know the car is getting spark, originally i thought it was a coil or igniter problem cuase i wasn't getting spark, but then found out it was just a grounding issue. I still think i have a grounding issue becuase for some reason when i have the distributor turned all the way advance and then i try to start the car, the thin ground that connects to the alternator will heat up and smoke. I am suspecting the ground behind the intake manifold to be the culprit but havent been able to check it out since its in such a tight space. With all the white smoke out of the exhuast i thought that it could have been burning coolant, so i suspected headgasket/low compression. But then i checked compression and it is 150psi on all 4 cylinders. This isn't PERFECT, but the car should still run fine. Sooo i pretty much narrowed it down to a fuel problem. It's just pouring it in there like there's no tomorrow. I could check for leaky injectors, and i have a whole nother set that i could try, but it's going to be some work to switch them since it's like way down there. And i dont think they are leaking, but something is activating them due to a short or something. There is a broken wire that looks like it connects to some sort of sensor, but i have posted pictures on Alltrac.net and i had a mechanic look at my car and no one was able to help me out on that or tell me what the sensor was or what it did. There is also another broken wire but it is a different color that the wire leading to that sensor so i do not believe they go together. I am getting check engine code #21 i believe, the one that says there's something about my AFM.

[burneeed]

hrrrmmm... well how much where you asking for your at?

[asg14]

He's keeping it now!

[MaskedMan]

hrrrmmm... well how much where you asking for your at?

i was asking 4k. i think i have it set at $4400 on Alltrac.net but wouldve went down alot lower had someone actually even given me an offer for it. I prolly wouldve sold it for 3k =X with a spare 3sgte parts engine, cuase i was that desperate for the money. But i don't think im selling it anymores. =/.

[CelicaGT04]

No.

[airfron]

No.

don't worry guy

i don't think he's gonna do it...

i hope




gl with getting that thing running MaskedMan

[MaskedMan]

thanks guys for the input and advice, i just had second thoughts when i had people telling me my car is pretty much worthless, when i get no offers for it but a miata (not to say miatas are bad cars), and then having a guy with a stock ae86 tell me that my car isn't as good as his. Im just like wth... I mean, i like ae86's but in my opinion the price of them has skyrocketed to an unreasonable price now, and some of their owners are becomming full of themselves. No offense to anyone owning one, cuase there are a lot of 86 owners that are really nice people, about 5 of my friends have them. but ugh some can be quite mean , but i guess you'll get that with any car. Anyways im getting off topic. Thanks for all the support guys, and hopefully i can get this Alltrac running

[IdiotStick]

Im not trying to start something, but since we on the topic for Miata's...


http://www.monstermiata.com/

[Mynzeyes]

30k dollars for a 93 all-trac!

[boosted_K2]

im currently 5 points behind a miata in ES for the season... damn miatas...

alltracs arent as "light and nimble" as you may think. i smoke my buddy in his street alltrac at the autocrosses (was ~250WHP), he also is a rally driver in another alltrac, so its not like he doesnt know how to handle the car.

[hitcachi]

Don't ever ask a question on 6GC that involves "Celica or XXX Vehicle." Go to a neutral site lol. Or decide for yourself. Drive the Miata...they're fun. Awesome for autocross too. I don't think Alltracs are anything great to be honest. Everyone sackrides them here. And to tell you the truth, it won't appreciate in value like whoever said here. If it isn't running trade it, get a FlyinMiata kit, and I bet you have a lot of fun.

when it comes to celica or xxx vehicle, im really not bias at all. I'll tell you straight up, but i just hate miatas.

[Rjb23]

Have you checked your resister packs or FPR?

[MaskedMan]

Have you checked your resister packs or FPR?

no i havent, i have no idea what to check about them or what tools i need to do it, since i have only a few basic tools.

[Chanh55]

Where did you get that alltrac from?

[asg14]

We spent a while talking last night and he said it was pulling CEL #21, AFM. It also is pumping in gas to no end. My guess is the AFM is bad. Anyone have any input?

[Akimbo]

Don't ever ask a question on 6GC that involves "Celica or XXX Vehicle." Go to a neutral site lol. Or decide for yourself. Drive the Miata...they're fun. Awesome for autocross too. I don't think Alltracs are anything great to be honest. Everyone sackrides them here. And to tell you the truth, it won't appreciate in value like whoever said here. If it isn't running trade it, get a FlyinMiata kit, and I bet you have a lot of fun.

when it comes to celica or xxx vehicle, im really not bias at all. I'll tell you straight up, but i just hate miatas.

Why?

[MaskedMan]

We spent a while talking last night and he said it was pulling CEL #21, AFM. It also is pumping in gas to no end. My guess is the AFM is bad. Anyone have any input?

actually i went back to some of my old posts on Alltrac.net, and it looks like i pulled codes 31 and 24. Sorry for the mistake, but it's still for AFM.

Where did you get that alltrac from?

I got the Alltrac from a guy in Pomona named Jose.

This post has been edited by MaskedMan: Sep 1, 2006 - 12:11 PM

[Chanh55]

My first guess is the AFM as well... I was having similar problems as you, changed the AFM and all was well.

You should check the boards Alltrac boards and pick one up. One question... why don't you find a mechanic to take a look at it?

[asg14]

Found this on Ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AFM-AirFlow...sspagenameZWDVW

[Chanh55]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AFM-AirFlow...022733309QQrdZ1