that spec clutch kit?, how do u like urs? |
that spec clutch kit?, how do u like urs? |
Sep 18, 2006 - 4:28 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 16, '04 From Los Angeles Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
Ive been reading up on that spec clutch kit for 3s swapers using a 5s tranny and i was wondering how you guys like it? and also if ur using a 2nd or 3rd stage? and with a 3rd gen 3s i should be using a 2nd or 3rd stage?
doc tweak says "The combo that most people use is, 3S flywheel, 3S pressure plate, and either a 5S disc or a 3S disc splined for the 5S. Since the only company that makes the 5s splined 3s disc is SPEC, and they haven't been doing that well for us lately, and we have a 5S flywheel (which bolts to the 3S perfectly), the logical solution is to use a high performance 5S clutch kit. This will also simplify things down the road if and when the clutch needs to be replaced again. By the way, the difference in the total outside diameter between the 5S and 3S clutch discs is barely 1/4". The whole issue of using a 3S disc is highly overrated. I'm actually considering using the 5S flywheel and a good stage 2 or stage 3 clutch kit on ALL my swaps from now on. -Doc" i had thought about doing this too. o yeah and teh 245hp that the 3rd gen is speced at is at teh crank right This post has been edited by urbandork: Sep 18, 2006 - 5:00 PM |
Sep 18, 2006 - 6:30 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 10, '05 From Monroe, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
ask itchy how he feels about SPEC.
-------------------- 94' ST Coupe - 5sfe Motor swap and brake swap.
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Sep 18, 2006 - 8:29 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
one thing i learned... forget about brand names. one brands stange 1 clutch might suck, but their stage 10 is better then anything on earth.
i have a stage 3 spec. i had it for over a year now. i love the pedal feel and how well it grabs and holds the power. only issue i noticed is that sometimes ill hear a slight rattle at idle that goes away when i press the clutch, but i also had the same noise when i had the ACT in there. other then that its been good to me. -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Sep 18, 2006 - 8:30 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 3, '02 From HOUSTON Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
most everyone who has problems wih it have had problems with the stage 2, stage 3 has yet to see any major defects to my knowlege
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Sep 18, 2006 - 8:50 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 12, '02 From Webster Ma. Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
im allll set with ever buying another spec clutch. They shouldnt just break with no symptons and being rated to hold twice the power your actually putting to them.
im going back to ACT. -------------------- |
Sep 18, 2006 - 9:45 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 16, '05 From Toronto, Ontario Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
hm damn.. i was about to get a spec stage2 clutch too... i guess i'll hold off
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Sep 18, 2006 - 10:22 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 16, '04 From Los Angeles Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
yeah ive read all the post from those other threads and thats the reason why i figured id ask the question direct.
how many ppl are using a stage 3 from spec other then lagos |
Sep 18, 2006 - 11:25 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
defgeph has one too
its also very popular on mr2oc.com -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Sep 19, 2006 - 9:00 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 9, '03 From Dayton, OH Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
There have been multiple spec3's breaking also...search mr2oc... I have a spec stg3 and had it for about a year now but seeing the problems with them comming apart i would not buy one again.
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Sep 19, 2006 - 9:44 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 8, '04 From KY Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I have a spec stage 1 but its for a mr2 so its rated at 390 lbs of tq. I haven't had any trouble out of it so far and have had it for almost a year.
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Sep 19, 2006 - 9:55 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 9, '02 From Scranton, Pa Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
i am very happy with my Spec clutch, awesome pedal feel. i have been a long time ACT clutch user but i am much happier with the feel of the spec. i used/using the ACT in my SR20, 7afe, my brothers 420a, & drove ACT's in a VR6 aswell. not to dis ACT b/c they make an awesome clutch (and i do and will continue to buy ACT) but my Spec has the best pedal feel. (note this is my only personal use with spec also). so hats off to the spec company. they have good customer service as well. i called to order my 3s kit and it was made up and shipped promptly. no issues at all with my experience with the company and product.
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Sep 19, 2006 - 11:00 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 20, '06 From Florida Currently Offline Reputation: 44 (100%) |
i have a spec stage two, haven't used it yet since the swap isn't done so we shall see how it is, but if you call spec and talk to justin he will help you set up the parts you need. I posted a thread with the actual part number but i can't find it at the moment.
I took Art's recommendation on this part and i have confidence that i will not be dissapointed. |
Sep 20, 2006 - 1:47 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 5, '05 From LA, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
My Spec stage 2 started slipping my second time down the drag strip with a stock (ok, intake and exhaust) 3rd gen 3s-gte. Properly broken in and all (held all the power on the dyno - 269hp!). I'm hoping I can just pop in a 6-puck from either ACT or Clutchnet (I can get the Clutchnet stuff cheap) and get back on the road... I haven't checked what shape my flywheel and pressure plate are in yet though.
-Charlie -------------------- 2003 Subaru WRX Wagon
1989 Camry Alltrac LE 3S-GTE - SV25/ST205 hybrid 1988 Camry Alltrac LE - BEAMS swap started |
Sep 20, 2006 - 2:04 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 30, '02 From Washington Spokane / Coeur D' Alene Idaho Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
QUOTE(x_itchy_b_x @ Sep 18, 2006 - 6:50 PM) [snapback]481200[/snapback] im allll set with ever buying another spec clutch. They shouldnt just break with no symptons and being rated to hold twice the power your actually putting to them. im going back to ACT. I personally wouldnt use ACT -------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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Sep 20, 2006 - 3:10 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 19, '05 From Nebraska Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
isnt manny using an ACT with no problems thus far? I think that says something.
-------------------- Teh Celica sleeps for Winter '06. Suspension overhaul begins........
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Sep 20, 2006 - 3:26 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 16, '04 From Los Angeles Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
im thinking about going with a 5sfte clutch and a light weight flywheel.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/F1-RACING-S...sspagenameZWDVW and a fidanza alluminum flywheel. or a stock one with a 6 pluck 5s clutch and an alluminum flywheel what kind of clutch feel and grab would i see? |
Sep 20, 2006 - 3:34 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 21, '05 From New york Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
6 pucks are not good for daily driving. the engagement is too harsh
bigal -------------------- 1994 celica GT.....3sgte in a month! all helpers are welcome!!! i live in Plattsburgh, NY.
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Sep 20, 2006 - 7:14 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 30, '02 From Washington Spokane / Coeur D' Alene Idaho Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
QUOTE(hitcachi @ Sep 20, 2006 - 1:10 PM) [snapback]481878[/snapback] isnt manny using an ACT with no problems thus far? I think that says something. i threw 300whp at 6 puck and hd plate and it didnt hold very well now i have clutch net clutch thats working x10 better but this is only from my project QUOTE(bigal004321 @ Sep 20, 2006 - 1:34 PM) [snapback]481886[/snapback] 6 pucks are not good for daily driving. the engagement is too harsh bigal if you get a sprung center there not that bad my car is DD and it drives fine This post has been edited by nik: Sep 21, 2006 - 2:23 PM -------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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Sep 20, 2006 - 7:57 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
QUOTE(bigal004321 @ Sep 20, 2006 - 4:34 PM) [snapback]481886[/snapback] 6 pucks are not good for daily driving. the engagement is too harsh bigal i have a 6puck. as long as it has springs then you can totally street drive it. it was a little harsh for the first 1-3,000 miles of driving it tho. -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Sep 20, 2006 - 9:19 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 16, '05 From Toronto, Ontario Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
man... i'm so confused now...
@ first i was gonna get a ACT... but then i changed my mind and wanted a SPEC STAGE II... but this thread made me look more @ both company's problems and now... i'm totally confused of what to get... ppl seem to like SPEC more but they seem to be hit or miss -------------------- |
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