crazy idea to an old car..., just read Options

[shadycrew31]

Ok ive been on this site for years.. and ive learned a ****load about cars ive had my 300zx for a year or 2 now and im ready for soemthing thats gonna blow people away. ok so rwd kicks ass i hardly drive the celica cause of this fact. so why not convert it.....i was thinking of a rear clip of an 89 supra but the drive shaft needs to bolt into something. i dont know what drive shaft can bolt up to the 3sgte (thats the engine im swaping in) or a 4age.. then i thought why not use a hachi rear clip but i bleive the drive shaft would be to short..


so without flaming me can you tell me what if any driveshafts would fit into a 3sgte or 4age thats about the length of the celica.. i mean yea its going to be a **** load of work and even more money but when its doen it would be an amazing machine. a stiff light chassis with powerful rear wheel drive action..

[OrbitalGT95]

tell u right now, just go custom...i had to go custom when i swaped my rb25det into my s14..only costed 157.56 or something like that...its not that expensice...JUST GO CUSTOM

[coldbluesteel]

GT4 or custom. Plus you will have to use a different tranny. ( probably from the 2.0 altezza (Lexus IS 200) Your right it's tons of custom fab. To be honest it may be easier to do AWD and just convert over using GT4 parts.


And since you need to make all new motor mounts to make the motor inline instead of transverse, I wouldn't do a 4a. Maybe a high power 3s, but personally if I'm going to go to that trouble I would drop in a 2j or maybe a 1,2,or 3 uzfe. Oh and of course the 5vzfe, I love this motor.

This post has been edited by coldbluesteel: Oct 19, 2006 - 8:33 PM

[SinisterWhisper]

I don't know, 4a sitting back and low in the bay would be better for handling. If I went rwd that's what I'd do, but truth is it won't happen. (money isn't really the issue, just I am moving to an apartment so no place to work )

[coldbluesteel]

I don't know, 4a sitting back and low in the bay would be better for handling. If I went rwd that's what I'd do, but truth is it won't happen. (money isn't really the issue, just I am moving to an apartment so no place to work )

The 4a is just so under powered. You will have less power on a RWD than a FWD after drive train loss.

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

I don't know, 4a sitting back and low in the bay would be better for handling. If I went rwd that's what I'd do, but truth is it won't happen. (money isn't really the issue, just I am moving to an apartment so no place to work )

The 4a is just so under powered. You will have less power on a RWD than a FWD after drive train loss.

I would buy a rusted out Corolla with the 4age, and use it's parts. Put the 4age head on a 7afe, and get yourself a 7age, then turbo that. 7agte, I love this motor combo. You don't see it much. If you go clear down to the frame, it shouldn't be to bad. Cut out the Corolla rear, and just weld it in place. I know it's more complicated that just "welding it in." But you get the idea. I'm excited to try my 1 off project one day. I don't know if I'll choose the Celica as the platform, but whatever I do, it's going to be fun.

EDIT: As of tonight, my project would be a Subaru Justy with a 1.6 Suzuki Esteem motor turn into DOHC with a G13 head, and then turboed. It would be a 1700lbs AWD 200hp car. Sounds like fun to me.

This post has been edited by Bigmeanbulldog55: Oct 20, 2006 - 12:16 AM

[Rexasaurus]

I don't know, 4a sitting back and low in the bay would be better for handling. If I went rwd that's what I'd do, but truth is it won't happen. (money isn't really the issue, just I am moving to an apartment so no place to work )

The 4a is just so under powered. You will have less power on a RWD than a FWD after drive train loss.

I would buy a rusted out Corolla with the 4age, and use it's parts. Put the 4age head on a 7afe, and get yourself a 7age, then turbo that. 7agte, I love this motor combo. You don't see it much. If you go clear down to the frame, it shouldn't be to bad. Cut out the Corolla rear, and just weld it in place. I know it's more complicated that just "welding it in." But you get the idea. I'm excited to try my 1 off project one day. I don't know if I'll choose the Celica as the platform, but whatever I do, it's going to be fun.

EDIT: As of tonight, my project would be a Subaru Justy with a 1.6 Suzuki Esteem motor turn into DOHC with a G13 head, and then turboed. It would be a 1700lbs AWD 200hp car. Sounds like fun to me.

it would be more expensive to buy the rusted out corolla. the reason few go with 7ag is because the reason for swapping heads is the better flow and high rpm capibilties of the 4age head, but the 7a bottom end can't really take revving, so its basically wasted unless you build the 7a bottom. and cutting out the corolla rear? you are aware that its a 4 link solid axle right? not IRS.

[ra65_22re]

it would be more expensive to buy the rusted out corolla. the reason few go with 7ag is because the reason for swapping heads is the better flow and high rpm capibilties of the 4age head, but the 7a bottom end can't really take revving, so its basically wasted unless you build the 7a bottom. and cutting out the corolla rear? you are aware that its a 4 link solid axle right? not IRS.

my 84 celi GTS has IRS but no lsd. why not do an old supra rear? there got everything LSD and IRS and there cheap.

[shadycrew31]

thats what i was syaing like an 89 supra rear with a new bell housing i just gotta piece the parts together.. and see what will fit.

[ra65_22re]

thats what i was syaing like an 89 supra rear with a new bell housing i just gotta piece the parts together.. and see what will fit.

why not just buy a 89 supra and swap motor and everything else over. you can get a custom driveshaft done at most tranny shops.

a while back i've seen a 84 celica gts with a 2jz dropped in on ebay. it sold for 800 bucks.

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

I'm talking about using the Corolla rear because it's light wieght. I thought it was IRS, but after some searching, I found out it's not. The car is a FWD car. The ballance is not ment to handle the RWD platform. Therefor, you should try to use as lightweight of matterials as possible. If you're going to dive into a project like that, and you're talking about money issues, you should just get out now. The Datsun 510 had a nice light rear end that had IRS. Also the BMW 320s. I seen a guy putting a nice G13B turbo in his Swift and using the BMW rear end for it. Here's a link to the car for all those who care to see.