3sgte?, Information Options

[StalionCelica]

How much horse power would you get if you put a 3sgte in a 96' Celica GT?

Tell me everything you know about it

[Guest_Matthew_*]

depends what generation of celica that you get. 6th gen 3sgte engines are hard to find and expensive to import. 5th and 4th gen 3sgte's are pretty easy to find if you go to www.ebaymotors.com and search for toyota celica in the parts and accesories section. A 5th gen engine will get you around 200 hp with stock turbos at normal boost. I think like 10psi or something. Obviously it can get higher boost. You will also need an intercooler and possibly bigger fuel injectors. Like 540cc injectors would be fine. Other companies like HKS or greddy make aftermarket turbo kits for the 3sgte and those will obviously get you more power. Cuz they're better turbos, piping, cooling, etc. So with the right combination you could get 400+hp out of that engine. One thing though, your stock transmission in your front wheel drive celica might not be able to handle all the power for a while. Keep in mind that your transmission is probably made to handle 200 hp max. I'm not totally sure what it is made to handle but its probably around there. So you should get yourself a transmission from a all trac celica and put it in your car. Maybe even covert it to all wheel drive like neverstop did. If you got the money. 6-8 thousand to give it a guess.

[StalionCelica]

would it cost 6 to 8000 to change the engine, change the transmission to all trac, and to add the intercooler and injector or did you mean it would cost 6-8000 to convert to the all trac transmission?

Whats a good deal for all these parts? I found a 3sgte engine for 2,700, good deal or not?

[NEVERSTOP]

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would it cost 6 to 8000 to change the engine, change the transmission to all trac, and to add the intercooler and injector or did you mean it would cost 6-8000 to convert to the all trac transmission?

That is way too much for all of that work...

3sgte,wiring harness,ECU and transmission : 2500-3500
Front mount intercooler (optional) : 200-400
Injectors (optional) : 400-600
Engine/Transmission motor mount : 80-150
Remaining motor mounts (optional) :160-300
GT4 rear end and parts (optional) : 800-1000
GT shifter arms (needed if using the 3sgte tranny) 0-100


this is just a basic list but it is still 3740 - 5350 for everything and 2580 - 3650 for just the basics.

the price also depends on weither or not you have an ST or a GT... the ST's will require alot more work... more money

there are also "hidden costs" ex... tools, bags, hoses etc that you will either need to have to install the motor or replace on the motor... remember that it is alot easier to work on a motor outside of the engine compartment than in... do as much as you can afford to do before installing the motor.

There are also different gens and groups of this motor... your basic 3sgte is gonna have about 200hp at the flywheel... that means around 180 goes to the ground. The hp rating goes up from there. Also the JDM verisons of the 3sgte are going to have higher HP ratings than the USDM versions. but the USDM's are going to be easier to locate.

Also there are problems with the tranny in some of the gens of 3sgte's... because the tranny is allwheel drive and the USDM 6th gen celica is front wheel drive only there are sometimes problems with the rear transfercase.... what this meas is that the tranny is sometimes a posi... that mean that the power is going to go the wheels with the least amount of resistance..... in other word if you hook the tranny on to the USDM 6th gen and it has a posi transmission then you car will not even move.... the power is going to try and go the the rear wheels instead of the front ones... this is because the rear transfercase isn't hooked up to anything... it will just spin. you can have a transmission shop lock this for you but you will not be able to use it in the future if you decide to convert to allwheel drive... conveting to all wheel drive is the best option if you can afford to do it as you will get all of the benifits of this engine....

for info about the allwheel drive conversion contact me.... hope all of this helps.

[rlan214]

QUOTE (StalionCelica @ Dec 24 2002, 11:54 AM)

How much horse power would you get if you put a 3sgte in a 96' Celica GT? Tell me everything you know about it

here you go topshelf racing

[boosted_K2]

QUOTE (StalionCelica @ Dec 24 2002, 02:48 PM)

would it cost 6 to 8000 to change the engine, change the transmission to all trac, and to add the intercooler and injector or did you mean it would cost 6-8000 to convert to the all trac transmission? Whats a good deal for all these parts? I found a 3sgte engine for 2,700, good deal or not?

buy a clip, it makes life alot easier, basically you should look at this mod for about a year and a half to 2 years down the road.
(im just assuming you are JUST getting started with getting info and havent done any engine swapping previously, if you have forgive me).

[FallenHero]

http://www.streetimports.com/ check them out.

[StalionCelica]

thanx alot for all the help everyone