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post Oct 26, 2006 - 12:40 AM
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i read the manual

from what i can tell with the wiring

the 205 starter relay runs its power through the 7.5a ST fuse where as on the 204 it gets directed through the 7.5a IGN fuse. I jumped that so now when i turn the key it opens the relay for the starter and the starter goes on.

I still dont know what the cor looks like and i think im missing it. can someone take a pic of it and its exact location cus i dotn ahve anything on my radiator and i think i should.
post Oct 26, 2006 - 1:25 AM
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QUOTE(urbandork @ Oct 26, 2006 - 5:40 AM) [snapback]496218[/snapback]

i read the manual

from what i can tell with the wiring

the 205 starter relay runs its power through the 7.5a ST fuse where as on the 204 it gets directed through the 7.5a IGN fuse. I jumped that so now when i turn the key it opens the relay for the starter and the starter goes on.

I still dont know what the cor looks like and i think im missing it. can someone take a pic of it and its exact location cus i dotn ahve anything on my radiator and i think i should.



chanh jsut told me that the COR is that relay screwed on the side of the ecu....... is that what it is cus i know what that is. if so whats all that talk about the fuse/relay box on the radiator?????

ok i found what i was missing

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thats the fuse box ya been talking about...... the one by the radiator cap


yeah that didnt come with the clip. how badly do i need that

anyone have a part number and can some one tell me whats inside..... what kinda relays perhap their part number.

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post Oct 27, 2006 - 5:31 PM
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so when you turn the key to the position that the car would normally run in the starter stays on? The other relay box that sits up near the rad holds the intercooler pump relay, fuel pump relay and dimmer relay. Also the fuses for the left and right high beams. What is the current problem? Because there is nothing in this box that should give you trouble with the starter circuit.


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post Oct 27, 2006 - 8:39 PM
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QUOTE(urbandork @ Oct 25, 2006 - 11:25 PM) [snapback]496228[/snapback]
yeah that didnt come with the clip. how badly do i need that

anyone have a part number and can some one tell me whats inside..... what kinda relays perhap their part number.
You can wire around it, I think... look at the diagrams and fake it. You will have to wire your fuel pump to recieve full voltage all the time (getting rid of the fuel pump resistor).

At this point, you should be able to start your car with the B+ and FP pins jumpered in the diagnostics connector in the engine bay.

-Charlie


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1988 Camry Alltrac LE - BEAMS swap started
post Oct 27, 2006 - 8:59 PM
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QUOTE(phattyduck @ Oct 28, 2006 - 1:39 AM) [snapback]496929[/snapback]

QUOTE(urbandork @ Oct 25, 2006 - 11:25 PM) [snapback]496228[/snapback]
yeah that didnt come with the clip. how badly do i need that

anyone have a part number and can some one tell me whats inside..... what kinda relays perhap their part number.
You can wire around it, I think... look at the diagrams and fake it. You will have to wire your fuel pump to recieve full voltage all the time (getting rid of the fuel pump resistor).

At this point, you should be able to start your car with the B+ and FP pins jumpered in the diagnostics connector in the engine bay.

-Charlie


the 5s had the fuel pump set up with the COR so couldnt i just run it the same way? using the cor for both fuel pump as it would have on the 5s and also what ever the 3s needs it for?

post Oct 27, 2006 - 9:17 PM
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yes, you can ditch the fuel pump relay, but if you do , you have to rewire it to work.

the fuel pump relay is used so that the fuel pump can go from Hi to LOW power mode. at least thats how it is on the 2nd gen motor.


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post Oct 27, 2006 - 10:21 PM
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QUOTE(lagos @ Oct 27, 2006 - 7:17 PM) [snapback]496939[/snapback]

yes, you can ditch the fuel pump relay, but if you do , you have to rewire it to work.

the fuel pump relay is used so that the fuel pump can go from Hi to LOW power mode. at least thats how it is on the 2nd gen motor.
Its the same way on the 3rd gen motor too. It is easy enough to rewire to bypass the resistor and have the COR power the fuel pump directly.

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1988 Camry Alltrac LE - BEAMS swap started
post Oct 28, 2006 - 12:12 AM
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QUOTE(phattyduck @ Oct 28, 2006 - 3:21 AM) [snapback]496952[/snapback]

QUOTE(lagos @ Oct 27, 2006 - 7:17 PM) [snapback]496939[/snapback]

yes, you can ditch the fuel pump relay, but if you do , you have to rewire it to work.

the fuel pump relay is used so that the fuel pump can go from Hi to LOW power mode. at least thats how it is on the 2nd gen motor.
Its the same way on the 3rd gen motor too. It is easy enough to rewire to bypass the resistor and have the COR power the fuel pump directly.

-Charlie


cool i think ill be able to do that no problem

ill update asap

yesterday i did a 14 hr shift today i did a 12 and tmw another 14. as such im tired and im guna continue working on her hopfully tmw night or sunday

thanks for all the help. i think with the edw ill be able to re wire the fuel pump up. as well as get power to the starter relay.
post Oct 30, 2006 - 4:09 AM
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well i ran power to the starter relay and also bypassed the fuel pump relay via the diag. box and finally got her started. The EDW helped a lot as did all the other info and advice ya gave. Ur support through my times of doubt kept me from crying lol.

Thanks to everyone.

post Oct 30, 2006 - 11:07 PM
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Congrats! Make sure to post pictures. I want to see how my old hood and bumper looks! biggrin.gif

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1988 Camry Alltrac LE - BEAMS swap started
post Nov 1, 2006 - 2:52 AM
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sweet. now we gotta have a meet soon.


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