comp processors + such Options

[Toyoca]

hey guys i might get a new pc and im kinda confused about the new processors out there nowadays. i want a pc that could play the newest games for a while and just do everyday internet browsing of course and play movies. im looking @ a xps m1710 that comes with an Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T7200 (2GHz/667MHz/4MB). is that fast nowadays? i know theres 3.8+ghz computers out there but hows a mere 2ghz duo processor? 2ghz seems low to me but i guess the stats are different. could someone explain. or do you guys recommend some laptop better less than 2500$? ty

[LewFX]

xps are fast machines but its still a dell.

[uberschall]

yeah, buy a dell.....and you won't be doing much of anything!

[Toyoca]

got any recommendations? or actually know anything about processors?

btw y dont ppl like dell? xps always gets good reviews

This post has been edited by Toyoca: Oct 26, 2006 - 7:48 PM

[phonex98]

heres the deal. All processors out today function fine under most scenarios. If you think processors are too slow upgrade to A dual processor unit or dual core. You want to play games, so were not going to look at your processor, we need to look at your Graphics card. If you wanna play games on your computer, put your cash into the graphics card, not processor.

[Toyoca]

heres the deal. All processors out today function fine under most scenarios. If you think processors are too slow upgrade to A dual processor unit or dual core. You want to play games, so were not going to look at your processor, we need to look at your Graphics card. If you wanna play games on your computer, put your cash into the graphics card, not processor.

well i would think we should think about both. for instance. my desktop (old, like 5 yrs) is only 1.8ghz and is bottlenecking my 256mb radeon graphics card.

[tomazws]

If money is an issue, just build your own system. Everything's plug and play.

I believe Core 2 Duo is the hottest right now. CPU prices are LOW right now. Get them if you can.

[Toyoca]

u can build your own laptop?

[phonex98]

heres the deal. All processors out today function fine under most scenarios. If you think processors are too slow upgrade to A dual processor unit or dual core. You want to play games, so were not going to look at your processor, we need to look at your Graphics card. If you wanna play games on your computer, put your cash into the graphics card, not processor.

well i would think we should think about both. for instance. my desktop (old, like 5 yrs) is only 1.8ghz and is bottlenecking my 256mb radeon graphics card.

Should have made that a little clearer... In my opinion, any new processor will be just fine. But the majority of the game rendering comes from the graphics card. I still don't think 1.8 ghz would slow down your gaming ? What chipset are you using? and how much ram ? and what game in specific. I know for some games you can dummy down the physics engine which will take stress off your processor.

u can build your own laptop?

I think he meant you should build your own PC. You can build your own laptop... but its alot harder.

Also, if you aren't packing it to school/work daily, i would suggest a PC, as you will get a more reliable, faster system for the same amount of cash.

This post has been edited by phonex98: Oct 26, 2006 - 8:06 PM

[neKronos]

www.hardocp.com one of the best if not the best sites when it comes to computers. You seem more of a consumer than an enthusiast so check out some of their reviews

What are your brand preferences, and you have a budget of 2500 right?

[Supersprynt]

heres the deal. All processors out today function fine under most scenarios. If you think processors are too slow upgrade to A dual processor unit or dual core. You want to play games, so were not going to look at your processor, we need to look at your Graphics card. If you wanna play games on your computer, put your cash into the graphics card, not processor.

well i would think we should think about both. for instance. my desktop (old, like 5 yrs) is only 1.8ghz and is bottlenecking my 256mb radeon graphics card.

Thats what I have. 1.8ghz w/256 Radeon @ 768mbs RDRam. The processor def. needs an upgrade but I"m waiting til I build a whole new machine.

[jess_i_74]

Guys, remember that processor speed is relative to the chip you are using. See, Core Duos are faster per clock cycle than the old P4's. While direct comparisons are hard, a dual-core 2ghz core duo most likely will be faster than a 3ghz P4. Also, since they have two cores on one chip, they excel at multitasking.

I bought a Dell E1705 with a 1.83 ghz core duo and the go7800 graphics. Gig of RAM. It set me back about 1300. I am quite satisfied with the performance; I'm playing two-year-old games at 1600x1200 (Deus Ex, ROTK, Lego Star Wars) with no framerate issues. I'm not a huge gamer, but I wanted to be able to play some. I imagine that newer games would be playable by losing some eye candy and lowering the resolution.

[phonex98]

heres the deal. All processors out today function fine under most scenarios. If you think processors are too slow upgrade to A dual processor unit or dual core. You want to play games, so were not going to look at your processor, we need to look at your Graphics card. If you wanna play games on your computer, put your cash into the graphics card, not processor.

well i would think we should think about both. for instance. my desktop (old, like 5 yrs) is only 1.8ghz and is bottlenecking my 256mb radeon graphics card.

Thats what I have. 1.8ghz w/256 Radeon @ 768mbs RDRam. The processor def. needs an upgrade but I"m waiting til I build a whole new machine.

Wow... not a bad machine at all I wish i could afford a better computer... right now i have a laptop at 1.2 ghz, 512 mb ram + 60 gB HDD... built in graphics card.. and a desktop with a 128mb all in one pro + HTT 1.9 ghz (i think 1.9) and a 150mB HDD... Ill gladly take your 'old' system off your hands

I'm playing two-year-old games at 1600x1200 (Deus Ex...

Ermm.. im pretty sure thats like 6 years old!

This post has been edited by phonex98: Oct 26, 2006 - 8:21 PM

[Supersprynt]

150mb HDD? Do you mean 150gig?

I have a 120gig HD. I just wish my processor was a lil faster.

Oh you know whats funny. I found an old old computer of my parents and I was gonna steal the hardrive to use for a secondary and I found it to be a like 3 gig hdd. 3!

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Oct 26, 2006 - 8:32 PM

[bloodrain]

xps are fast machines but its still a dell.

yeah, buy a dell.....and you won't be doing much of anything!

got any recommendations? or actually know anything about processors?

btw y dont ppl like dell? xps always gets good reviews

what are u guys talking about? The Dell 1710 is probably THE BEST laptop on the market atm. So what if its a Dell, its a computer. Dont always fall for the Build your Own/Add your own parts its cheaper theory. If you have $3500 to spend on a gaming laptop, go with the the XPS with the T7600G processor. You wont regret it. Now if your strictly into gaming keep in mind, laptops are much harder to upgrade than desktops. My buddy has an XPS and loves it, I played Quake 4, Unreal 2004, and FEAR on it a few times, ran it with no problems. Im in the market for a nice gaming laptop, except im gonna hold on since Intel and AMD said they are rushing to get the first Quad-Processor out on the market. So I might hold off for another 5 or 6 months until that happens. Anywho, like I said, if your looking for the best laptop money can buy, go with the 1710 or the alienware m9700.

[Starcraftjunkie]

If you're going to go intel, get a Core 2 Duo. Remember the 2! There's a big diff between the Core Duo and the Core 2 Duo.
Raw speed in Gig's isn't the number to look at anymore as the be all and end all number. A lot of different things come into play.

If you do get a core 2 duo, most desktop versions can overclock to go even faster (if you feel the need)

If you're going to go AMD, most AM2 processors will do just fine.

But it looks like you're looking at a laptop? If so, and you want to play games.. make sure it has a capable graphics chip. Not some integrated or fake name.

The peeps here can probably give u a hand with picking one.

This post has been edited by Starcraftjunkie: Oct 26, 2006 - 10:39 PM

[cjh4l22]

hey guys i might get a new pc and im kinda confused about the new processors out there nowadays. i want a pc that could play the newest games for a while and just do everyday internet browsing of course and play movies. im looking @ a xps m1710 that comes with an Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T7200 (2GHz/667MHz/4MB). is that fast nowadays? i know theres 3.8+ghz computers out there but hows a mere 2ghz duo processor? 2ghz seems low to me but i guess the stats are different. could someone explain. or do you guys recommend some laptop better less than 2500$? ty

KK I got this ****, I sell computers at bestbuy, so PM me w/all your future questions. but with this one...
yes there are processors like celerons that run like 3.4ghz but this is a 32bit single core processor. the core 2 duo is a 64bit dual core processor. so... if you wanna think about it in terms of ghz, its more like 2ghz x's 2 (b/c of the 64bit vs 32 and b/c of the dual cores vs the single core) so... essentially its like 4+ghz but because its a laptop its not quite that fast. so thats why they run soo expensive (laptops are smaller = more expensive) and it is THE NEWEST technology out right now. personally, i just bought an hp dv6119us. its specs are as follows... AMD 64bit x2 processor (1.6GHz dual core, 64bit processor) 1gig (1024mb) of memory, 80GB SATA Hard Drive (Serial ATA- fastest standard HD out right now) DVD-RW/RAM Drive and a GeForce 6150 graphics card (128MB max shared memory). its got a few other accessories and its one hell of a system for $779!! AND I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT! but feel free to ask me more questions.

oh and as starcraftjunkie said, its true, cpu's aren't really measured in GHz anymore... so my example above is just a raw estimate of comparison.

[phonex98]

ive been out of the 64 bit loop, but last time i checked alot of games and software are not 64 bit compatible. Are you sure you should recommend this for a gaming platform ? Or have things changed?

[LewFX]

anything with a dual core is a solid cpu...just what you put on your hard drive can slow it down even with 2gb of ram

[bloodrain]

ive been out of the 64 bit loop, but last time i checked alot of games and software are not 64 bit compatible. Are you sure you should recommend this for a gaming platform ? Or have things changed?

EVERYTHING is going to 64 bit now, it will become standard pretty soon. (soon as in the next year or 2) Im using Windows XP x64, which runs quite a bit better than your standard XP Pro, also Vista will ship in a x86 (32 bit version) and an x64 (64 bit version). Anywho, as far as gaming and stuff goes, check this out, it should answer your comment on are games going to 64 bit (or higher) processors.

Awsome video btw...

http://plex.wordpress.com/2006/10/05/alan-...-windows-vista/