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> OMG this s2000 is godly., Trust me youll like it. even if u hate honda ;) (big pic)
post Nov 8, 2006 - 12:08 PM
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QUOTE(KB-2 @ Nov 8, 2006 - 8:34 AM) [snapback]500576[/snapback]

i dont know much about engines.....but where did this engien originally come from? like waht car?
i see it has a toyota emblem......supra?


yep


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post Nov 8, 2006 - 12:16 PM
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QUOTE(tim86 @ Nov 8, 2006 - 9:45 AM) [snapback]500590[/snapback]

ugh replacing the amazing 13b in a 3rd gen is ****ing stupid and an insult to all rotary lovers... every time i look at an ls1 in a rx7 i get sick... it should stay in the domestic **** it came in

maybe to the FD guys, but alot of the FC guys do it.

Oh and LS2? BAh, LS7 FTW!


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post Nov 8, 2006 - 2:26 PM
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QUOTE(hitcachi @ Nov 8, 2006 - 11:16 AM) [snapback]500626[/snapback]

Oh and LS2? BAh, LS7 FTW!


Its the difference between $5400 for a LS2 Crate motor and $13,500 for a LS7 (last time I checked three months ago). The LS2 will have greater aftermarket support. Further, 400 hp stock is enough power anyway in a S2000. This will be my daily (summer) driver. My goal is a car that looks completely stock (except for wheels), retains the handling of the S2000, and has real TORQUE.


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QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]

i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
post Nov 8, 2006 - 2:30 PM
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lol, i know Jay. I was being sarcastic. But on a side note, I KNOW YOUR NEXT BIG PROJECT NOW!! HAHAHA!


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post Nov 8, 2006 - 3:09 PM
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I hate the 13b with a passion... If you have ever had to deal with one, then you understand what a pos it is. One of my freinds literally changed the writing for the check engine light to say "change engine light" laugh.gif The ls1 swap in an fd rx-7, actually yeilds better f-r weight disribution than with the stock turbo 13b! Dont beleive me? Do some research on it. The ls swap into the rx-7 is really the only cross manufacturer swap that i approve of. I dont think it is worth it to swap a 2jz into an s2k. Like I said, I would rather go with a stroker f20c and turbo the sh*t out of it. Does not change the fact that 2jz's are godly, and this car is crazy! I am a loyal subject of the ls series engine, but the only cars it belongs in are general motors products, and rx-7's.
I cant beleive you are trying to tell me that you honestly think you have a better understanding of the 2jz and ls2 than i do.. Think whatever makes you feel good inside. When you modify any engine, you lose reliability. If you plan on modifying that ls2, say goodbye to better reliability over the 2jz. Stock for stock the 2jz is more relaible. Of course a 400hp na v8 is going to have better reliability then a 400hp turbo 6cyl. What does reliability mean if its not your daily driver anyway? nothing. But anyway, your naive if you think you will obtain the same weight disrtibution as stock in an s2k. and foolish if you think you will get better weight dist than this guys 2jz s2k. The ls2 is literally twice the size of a 2jz! It may be stupid fast in a straight line, but people will laugh at you on a road course


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post Nov 8, 2006 - 4:30 PM
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QUOTE(4g-gt-four @ Nov 8, 2006 - 2:09 PM) [snapback]500677[/snapback]

But anyway, your naive if you think you will obtain the same weight disrtibution as stock in an s2k. and foolish if you think you will get better weight dist than this guys 2jz s2k. The ls2 is literally twice the size of a 2jz! It may be stupid fast in a straight line, but people will laugh at you on a road course


Your comments are annoying. When you are going to criticize and call me names, please get your facts straight. The weight of an LS2 with all accessories is about 500 lbs. The weight of a 2jz approaches 600 lbs.


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QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]

i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
post Nov 8, 2006 - 5:45 PM
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blaa blaa blaa blaa

lighten up people, or say good-bye to your post. Why can't anybody understand that this community wasn't made and maintained for people to bitch.

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post Nov 8, 2006 - 6:08 PM
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QUOTE(jgreening @ Nov 8, 2006 - 2:26 PM) [snapback]500669[/snapback]

QUOTE(hitcachi @ Nov 8, 2006 - 11:16 AM) [snapback]500626[/snapback]

Oh and LS2? BAh, LS7 FTW!


Its the difference between $5400 for a LS2 Crate motor and $13,500 for a LS7 (last time I checked three months ago). The LS2 will have greater aftermarket support. Further, 400 hp stock is enough power anyway in a S2000. This will be my daily (summer) driver. My goal is a car that looks completely stock (except for wheels), retains the handling of the S2000, and has real TORQUE.


With the LS2 you can on the cheap build yourself a "baby LS7" now. The new 6.2L L92 motor has phenomenal heads that are ever so slightly detuned LS7 heads, but retail for $700 a set fully set up. Add in a L76 intake manifold (the car version, truck version won't work in cars due to size) for $450 that includes fuel rails, injectors, and a TB, and a cam of choice. Hello 450-500 HP AT THE WHEELS in a completely driveable setup.

Oh yeah, on the original topic, that S2K..........I'd hit it without blinking an eye.

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post Nov 8, 2006 - 7:20 PM
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You are not even worth argueing with... rolleyes.gif Getting sick of peoples attitudes on this forum. Every time I post someone thinks they have a better opinion or know more then me


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post Nov 8, 2006 - 10:28 PM
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QUOTE(4g-gt-four @ Nov 8, 2006 - 8:20 PM) [snapback]500765[/snapback]

You are not even worth argueing with... rolleyes.gif Getting sick of peoples attitudes on this forum. Every time I post someone thinks they have a better opinion or know more then me


jgreening makes excellent points. You need to let go of your biases.

I've seen countless Supras on two bars or more of boost popping hoses left and right trying to get the kind of numbers a slightly modified LS series engine can attain comfortably.

There's rarely anything reliable about forced induction, esepcially when you start turning up the boost.



Anyways, these guys aren't your enemies. Anyone who can appreciate a 2JZ and a Smallblock Chevy is by far more enlightened than most of the ricers or track monkies out there. Take their opinions with an open ear.
post Nov 8, 2006 - 10:57 PM
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QUOTE(creamed_corn @ Nov 8, 2006 - 10:28 PM) [snapback]500833[/snapback]

QUOTE(4g-gt-four @ Nov 8, 2006 - 8:20 PM) [snapback]500765[/snapback]

You are not even worth argueing with... rolleyes.gif Getting sick of peoples attitudes on this forum. Every time I post someone thinks they have a better opinion or know more then me


jgreening makes excellent points. You need to let go of your biases.

I've seen countless Supras on two bars or more of boost popping hoses left and right trying to get the kind of numbers a slightly modified LS series engine can attain comfortably.

There's rarely anything reliable about forced induction, esepcially when you start turning up the boost.



Anyways, these guys aren't your enemies. Anyone who can appreciate a 2JZ and a Smallblock Chevy is by far more enlightened than most of the ricers or track monkies out there. Take their opinions with an open ear.

I still own an ls1 and a camaro. I was a musclecar guy first and foremost until i got addicted to turning. biases? you have no idea what you are talking about. I beleive I have been argueing FOR the 2jz. and if a supra is running 2bar(29psi), it better be putting down better numbers then an unboosted or non n2o ls1! Stock a 2jz puts down 320hp on 11psi. power output stock to stock and modded to modded they put out about the same(if the ls is still na). Im just going to pretend you didnt use the example of popping boost hoses, for your own good... Because im embarrased for you that it was the best example you had. Like I said earlier, Im done argueing, so if you have a response, know it wont be answered. The mods have already warned us, so shhhhhhhh!!


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post Nov 8, 2006 - 11:01 PM
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post Nov 8, 2006 - 11:13 PM
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post Nov 8, 2006 - 11:40 PM
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its just healthy discussion.


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post Nov 9, 2006 - 2:02 AM
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flat and rotary > others in this debate, yet this whole concept hasn't been touched, lol....
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post Nov 9, 2006 - 4:49 AM
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Nice motor, but doesnt belong in an s2k. I think thats a nice job of engineering but I just doesnt belong there in my opinion, I love the ls1-ls7 in the FD, fixes the rotary problems. But im a turnkey horsepower kinda guy, not "will it work today *pray to rotary god*.

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post Nov 10, 2006 - 12:26 AM
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2JZ = OVERRATED

In an S2000... kinda defeats the purpose of an S2000... but whatever floats your boat. Either way... chances are if you swap in a 2JZ or something along those lines... you're not worried about course times.


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man that awsome! it fits snugly too!



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