Oil Leak, Were is it? |
Oil Leak, Were is it? |
Jul 6, 2005 - 3:31 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 1, '03 From WV Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
I've got a 94 GT with the 2.2 liter. I've got an oil leak somewere on the passanger side of the engine. I've replaced the gasket around the cam, and the value cover gasket. I know this is a normal problem for the 2.2's. My uncle said he has a lady coming in the shop with week with a Camry that is showing a leak somewere around the same place. My question is, has anyone found out what this is that leaks? I can replace gaskets one after the other, but it'd be nice to know what's there. I'm going to put some dye in it so I can see the leak under a black light. So if no one can tell me were it's at, I'll be back to post and tell everyone else were it's at. If this is as common as I think it is, everyone should know.
Also. I know there's something that always breaks on the ingition system that's commonly misdiagnoesed on these 2.2's. I'll ask my uncle what that is. If the modderates won't put up a Common Problems forum, I'll try to start my own. -------------------- Live Free, Be Happy
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Jul 6, 2005 - 3:34 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 31, '04 From Summerville, SC Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
Can you take a pic?
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Jul 6, 2005 - 2:23 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 1, '03 From WV Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Jul 6, 2005 - 4:34 AM) Can you take a pic? [right][snapback]308956[/snapback][/right] A pic isn't going to help. There's nothing in that pic that you'd see that I and my uncle can't. It's coming from the backside of the engine on the passangers side. It looks like it could be coming out the timing belt cover. -------------------- Live Free, Be Happy
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Jul 6, 2005 - 4:20 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 26, '05 From Ashville, Ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
OMG i have had the same problem like FOREVER and i could never figure it out, well finally i got it, its the oil pump leaking and the timing belt cover so its about $1300.00 to fix
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Jul 6, 2005 - 5:02 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 10, '03 From Wichita, KS Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
QUOTE(kristinw85 @ Jul 6, 2005 - 4:20 PM) OMG i have had the same problem like FOREVER and i could never figure it out, well finally i got it, its the oil pump leaking and the timing belt cover so its about $1300.00 to fix [right][snapback]309229[/snapback][/right] Did that inlude anal lube? geez! I should be a freakin' mechanic. -------------------- Project ST204.5 99.88946% complete... |
Jul 6, 2005 - 7:26 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 26, '05 From Ashville, Ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
QUOTE(WannabeGT4 @ Jul 6, 2005 - 5:02 PM) QUOTE(kristinw85 @ Jul 6, 2005 - 4:20 PM) OMG i have had the same problem like FOREVER and i could never figure it out, well finally i got it, its the oil pump leaking and the timing belt cover so its about $1300.00 to fix [right][snapback]309229[/snapback][/right] Did that inlude anal lube? geez! I should be a freakin' mechanic. [right][snapback]309263[/snapback][/right] what is that supposed to mean? |
Jul 6, 2005 - 7:55 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
it means your getting raped on the price. whoever is saying $1300 is pricing WAY to high.
i have a small leak too, i was told it was my rear main seal. -------------------- Jared Harwell
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Jul 6, 2005 - 8:09 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 26, '05 From Ashville, Ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
but see i forgot to put that i got my axle fixed b/c it was torn open and a back caliber replaced and all my brakes pads and rotors cleaned....so i thnk the oil leak was like $6-700.00
This post has been edited by kristinw85: Jul 6, 2005 - 8:10 PM |
Jul 6, 2005 - 9:35 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
$6-700.00 sounds about right
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Jul 6, 2005 - 10:05 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '03 From Vancouver, Canada! Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I have the same leak... comming from under the headers. where the head and the block connect. Also some oil from the seal between the engine and the tranny.
only time i lose oil is on long highway drives. other then that there is little to no consumption just not worth it to fix. i will wait till it starts leaking 24/7.... then an engine rebuild/replace would suffice. This post has been edited by wind: Jul 6, 2005 - 10:06 PM |
Jul 7, 2005 - 2:42 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 1, '03 From WV Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
QUOTE(kristinw85 @ Jul 6, 2005 - 5:20 PM) OMG i have had the same problem like FOREVER and i could never figure it out, well finally i got it, its the oil pump leaking and the timing belt cover so its about $1300.00 to fix [right][snapback]309229[/snapback][/right] That sounds like it could be it. Thanks for the info. Sorry it cost you so much. I doubt it'll take more than the price of the gasket for me to fix it. It's amazing the price these machanics charge. I know my uncle never charges that much for anything. That's probably why he's so bussy all the time. That, and he fixes everything right. Unlike my dad. Dad haffway does everything, the idiot. QUOTE(wind @ Jul 6, 2005 - 11:05 PM) I have the same leak... comming from under the headers. where the head and the block connect. Also some oil from the seal between the engine and the tranny. only time i lose oil is on long highway drives. other then that there is little to no consumption just not worth it to fix. i will wait till it starts leaking 24/7.... then an engine rebuild/replace would suffice. [right][snapback]309378[/snapback][/right] That's your head gasket. That should cost a pretty penny. It's not the same leak as me. Mines on the back side, on the passengers side. But you should aways fix and oil leak. It could cause a lot of problems. -------------------- Live Free, Be Happy
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Jul 7, 2005 - 9:21 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 20, '04 From Russia, Moscow Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yep, it's probably the oil pump seal. Its an odd shaped rubber gasket that costs about 8 bucks. But to change it you have to take off the oil pump, timing belt and everything.
As long as you are planning to do it anyway go for changing the timing belt, gaskets and and two rollers (or however they are called correctly). That way you will save on labor and will not have to do it again for the next 60k miles |
Jul 7, 2005 - 1:58 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 1, '03 From WV Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
QUOTE(_rz_ @ Jul 7, 2005 - 10:21 AM) Yep, it's probably the oil pump seal. Its an odd shaped rubber gasket that costs about 8 bucks. But to change it you have to take off the oil pump, timing belt and everything. As long as you are planning to do it anyway go for changing the timing belt, gaskets and and two rollers (or however they are called correctly). That way you will save on labor and will not have to do it again for the next 60k miles [right][snapback]309575[/snapback][/right] I already changed that stuff last time I was in there. I never changed the oil pump seal, I don't know why. I'll get to it this weekend, or sometime soon. Thanks for all the help everybody. -------------------- Live Free, Be Happy
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Jan 1, 2007 - 4:19 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '06 From West Covina, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
While looking for the same oil leak (pass side, rear of engine/left side of engine when facing the timing belt), it looks like the leak is indeed coming from the oil pump gasket. I already did the crank and oil pump shaft seal while changing the timing belt and water pump. The cam shaft seal looks wet and I'll probably change that too. The driver side is wet with oil too, it looks like the distributor seal so I'll go for that too.
After I got it all back together, it does not run well, have to open the accelerator to keep it running. Thought I may have got the new timing belt wrong. I took off the timing covers and put the mount back together so I could run the engine and look for the leak. The timing marks are dead on so I'll be looking for a vacuum hose and elect connectors I may have disloged during the initial operation. When it ran a few minutes, the new spark plugs got carbon deposits and the oil leak continued. This is my first post; I have a 94 GT liftback. It has 249K+ miles, runs pretty good with no mods, does not seem to burn oil, just the leak that the old lady complains about messing up the garage floor. I sincerely expect it to get past 300k; I have not seen any cars out there I would consider as a replacement. This original post is 1½ years old; did that leak stop with an oil pump gasket replacement? |
Jan 1, 2007 - 6:17 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 20, '04 From Carlisle, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 27 (100%) |
I had the exact same thing happen to me. First the cam seal was replaced, but that didn't fix the problem. Once the oil pump gasket was replaced (I had a new oil pump put in as well, just for cheap insurance) it hasn't leaked a drop of oil since.
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Jan 2, 2007 - 12:26 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '06 From West Covina, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
The "not running well" problem turned out to be a simple vacuum hose. It now idles and runs like a champ (for what it is).
It still has the oil leak, it looks like it is coming from thet oil pump gasket area and will take it on soon. I'll still do the cam shaft seal and distributor seal. I don't like to spend $ on things not needed, but am considering replacing the oil pump anyway. Are there any suggestions on a replacement. I usually use either genuine Toyota or NAPA parts. For now, it's back to work after a nice week spent in the garage. Happy new year! |
Jan 9, 2007 - 4:23 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 29, '06 From Newnan, Ga. Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
Glad to hear you got it fixed, I'm replacing my son's engine with a low miles engine but I'm going to check out that gasket area for evidence of a leak.
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