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 Nov 3, 2006 - 4:57 PM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Jun 21, '05 From New york Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%)  |
Since it is getting close to winter and i havent had a chance to drive my car all summer due to the 3sgte swap, i was jsut wondering how the car handles in the snow? Especiallly since i will have all that added power that wasnt intended for this car in teh first place. I was planning on using hakkapeliittas snow tires btw.
thanks bigal -------------------- 1994 celica GT.....3sgte in a month! all helpers are welcome!!! i live in Plattsburgh, NY.
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Nov 4, 2006 - 3:08 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jun 19, '05 From Nebraska Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
is it lowered? Its all in the tires and driver my friend.
This post has been edited by hitcachi: Nov 4, 2006 - 3:08 AM -------------------- Teh Celica sleeps for Winter '06. Suspension overhaul begins........
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Nov 4, 2006 - 4:11 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 17, '05 From The Netherlands Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Driven with both the 3S-GE and 3S-GTE now. The GTE behaves like the GE untill about 2500rpm. Driven the car (with GE) in winter with no problems. Just go easy on the rpms and shift before 2500-3000 rpm and you will be fine.
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Nov 4, 2006 - 2:39 PM
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+1 about all being about the tires and driver.
This post has been edited by 94celicadude: Nov 4, 2006 - 2:40 PM --------------------  1994 GT Hatchback 1994 ST Coupe 1988 Corolla Wagon All-Trac 1999 Corvette 2008 Cobalt SS Turbo |
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Nov 4, 2006 - 2:56 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jul 7, '06 From Los Alamos, NM Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
good thing i dont have to worry about snow in texas!!!
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Nov 6, 2006 - 1:29 AM
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Get some studded tires and prepare to use them. I've got a torquy little 5sfe, but lots of snow. I bet I make as much torque as a 3sgte until 3k. Car is a pain in the butt to drive without the right tires. I've drove several FF cars in the snow too, and the Celica just sucks at it.
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Nov 6, 2006 - 3:09 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 3, '04 From Portsmouth, RI Currently Offline Reputation: 33 (100%) |
you should watch rally...
the car handles great but its all about who's driving 
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Nov 7, 2006 - 4:21 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 12, '05 From Texas Currently Offline Reputation: 59 (100%) |
QUOTE(hurley97 @ Nov 6, 2006 - 2:09 AM) [snapback]499834[/snapback] you should watch rally... the car handles great but its all about who's driving Those cars are AWD though, so they are much better... 
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Nov 7, 2006 - 5:00 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 1, '03 From WV Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
QUOTE(snapshotgt @ Nov 7, 2006 - 4:21 PM) [snapback]500313[/snapback] QUOTE(hurley97 @ Nov 6, 2006 - 2:09 AM) [snapback]499834[/snapback] you should watch rally... the car handles great but its all about who's driving Those cars are AWD though, so they are much better... There are a lot of FWD and RWD rally cars. Like the old Escorts rwd, the new SRT-4s fwd, and several minis fwd. And it really is driver. I've seen guys in RWD rally cars go up snowy hills with what looks like better grip than the FWD cars they were running against. That made me really think about this whole FWD > RWD in the snow thing. -------------------- Live Free, Be Happy
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Nov 7, 2006 - 5:07 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
snow handling 101....
1) left hand onthe wheel right hand on the e-brake... 2) less gas is better 3) use your MBC and close it ALL the way down so you run minimal boost and off your wastegate 4) remember the line from cars....turn right to go left, turn left to go right if you don't know what that means you need to buy the movie!~
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Nov 7, 2006 - 5:28 PM
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and the movie is out today!
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Nov 7, 2006 - 5:57 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 4, '06 From Ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 10 (100%) |
I got some 205/60R15 nokian snow/all season tires. we'll see!
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Nov 7, 2006 - 6:25 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 7, '06 From maryland Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I agree.Tires and driver.
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Nov 7, 2006 - 6:37 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 3, '04 From Portsmouth, RI Currently Offline Reputation: 33 (100%) |
QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Nov 7, 2006 - 5:00 PM) [snapback]500327[/snapback] QUOTE(snapshotgt @ Nov 7, 2006 - 4:21 PM) [snapback]500313[/snapback] QUOTE(hurley97 @ Nov 6, 2006 - 2:09 AM) [snapback]499834[/snapback] you should watch rally... the car handles great but its all about who's driving Those cars are AWD though, so they are much better... There are a lot of FWD and RWD rally cars. Like the old Escorts rwd, the new SRT-4s fwd, and several minis fwd. And it really is driver. I've seen guys in RWD rally cars go up snowy hills with what looks like better grip than the FWD cars they were running against. That made me really think about this whole FWD > RWD in the snow thing. having all the weight of a FWD car directly over the drive axle increases traction in slippery conditions, its just not as good as RWD or AWD for handling...thats on fairly flat ground, on a hill the weight is distributed to the back a little more so the advantages of FWD aren't as evident. -------------------- |
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Nov 7, 2006 - 7:15 PM
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Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
in the snow it pretty much goes
AWD > FWD > RWD |
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Nov 7, 2006 - 8:18 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 15, '05 From Gurnee,Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
all the above what everyone says here is true, basically just buy yourself a really good treads of snow tires like hancock snow tires or Bridgestone snow tires. it handles good for me in my 5sfe so far plus like everyone says, it depends on the driver too. bigger power like turbo in your 6gc just need to work on accleration control to get traction that's all.
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Nov 7, 2006 - 9:47 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jun 14, '05 Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
a 4x4 block behind the accelerator..
tires will do wonders, get off the gas, follow the trail created by the cars infront, brake early, keep your eyes on the road! |
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Nov 7, 2006 - 11:19 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 12, '05 From Texas Currently Offline Reputation: 59 (100%) |
QUOTE(playr158 @ Nov 7, 2006 - 6:15 PM) [snapback]500372[/snapback] AWD > FWD > RWD x2 -------------------- Past: V6 Swapped 6G Celica, E46 BMW M3, Jeep Wrangler TJ
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Nov 8, 2006 - 7:59 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 1, '03 From WV Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
QUOTE(snapshotgt @ Nov 7, 2006 - 11:19 PM) [snapback]500464[/snapback] QUOTE(playr158 @ Nov 7, 2006 - 6:15 PM) [snapback]500372[/snapback] AWD > FWD > RWD x2 That is the traditional view. But due to what I've seen lately, I question it. There is no doubt that FWD is easier to control. And my experiance with mud trucks says that if you loose your front, you are screwed, but if you loose your rear you have a chance. I think it's not that FWD is worse than RWD in the snow, it's just that RWD isn't as bad as it's made out to be. But, it just takes more skill to use. I don't know, I'll have to test several cars in the snow with RWD, FWD, and AWD to actually know. -------------------- Live Free, Be Happy
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Nov 10, 2006 - 1:27 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '03 From Nor Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Nov 9, 2006 - 12:59 AM) [snapback]500774[/snapback] That is the traditional view. But due to what I've seen lately, I question it. There is no doubt that FWD is easier to control. And my experiance with mud trucks says that if you loose your front, you are screwed, but if you loose your rear you have a chance. I think it's not that FWD is worse than RWD in the snow, it's just that RWD isn't as bad as it's made out to be. But, it just takes more skill to use. I don't know, I'll have to test several cars in the snow with RWD, FWD, and AWD to actually know. Since I've already 'tested'... it's true what has been posted. AWD>FF>FR>MR/RR... but if you're not an idiot... none of them are that bad... -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
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