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post Nov 21, 2006 - 11:26 PM
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Michael Richards you broke my heart and you ruined one of my favorite television characters. You embarrassed and offended me, not only as a white man, but as just a man.

To live in such a time when great leaps of advancement in technology and medicine can show the universe how bright and charismatic we humans can be, you come about and show the world how primitive and blatantly hateful our pathetic existence is.

Seinfeld, the series, may have ended in 1998, but this past weekend was the death of Kramer and the dawning of a bigot. How sorry we all should be for what has transcended. When the sun rises tomorrow I ask we learn from Mr. Richards' hate and accept each other as what and who we are, not black, not white, just humans.


post Nov 21, 2006 - 11:43 PM
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well said justin. i heard bout the news on the radio this morning.. can't believe he would say things like that


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post Nov 22, 2006 - 12:02 AM
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for anyone that doesn't know, here's the link with the story and the vid of what happen.

http://www.eurweb.com/story/eur29903.cfm


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post Nov 22, 2006 - 12:13 AM
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i hadnt heard anything about it...thats crazy! there is no excuse for saying stuff like that... im not sure what he said but i get the idea!! I bet he is gonna lay low for a while... *wow*


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post Nov 22, 2006 - 12:24 AM
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He already issued a statement on the Leno show or whatever last night. The guy was heckling him, and he lost it. Eh, I guess Im just apathetic to the whole thing, because I say the guy shouldn't have been heckling him in the first place.


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post Nov 22, 2006 - 3:20 AM
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Tru, but I dunno, I was still alittle shocked just to hear him yell it like that. He was pretty fired up.


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post Nov 22, 2006 - 7:47 AM
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QUOTE(Mynzeyes @ Nov 22, 2006 - 12:24 AM) [snapback]504441[/snapback]

He already issued a statement on the Leno show or whatever last night. The guy was heckling him, and he lost it. Eh, I guess Im just apathetic to the whole thing, because I say the guy shouldn't have been heckling him in the first place.



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But i do believe the "N" word was uncalled for.


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post Nov 22, 2006 - 8:43 AM
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Enh, **** happens wake up and realize it. Remember he is an actor not a comedian so he isn't used to being heckled. Maybe he was just having a bad day. We all have those. He shouldn't have been heckeled, the should respect him and stay silent. I've been to some comedians who suck ass, but I keep quiet cause I know damn well I can't do what they are doing.

In all honesty, until black people stop using that word in any from it will be said. If it really bothered black people that much, the term would have faded and not be in music, tv, etc...
post Nov 22, 2006 - 9:29 AM
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id do the same thing he did. maybe threw punches too.... to any race tongue.gif
now that would have been cool. then make bread from their bones.


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post Nov 22, 2006 - 9:34 AM
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Im not racist, I dont dislike nor hate any one, of any other decent from myself.

The word ****** can be taking in many dif. ways.

****** is a slur term used to refer to dark-skinned peoples, especially people of African ancestry. Although sometimes used by Black people themselves (especially those who feel an affinity for hip hop culture) as a somewhat self-deprecating term that is suggestive of familiarity and endearment, the word is most often regarded as offensive.

At the time of the Atlantic slave trade, ****** was a casual English language term for Black people. The word later became associated with an overt contempt, a racist assumption of inherent black inferiority, making it extremely pejorative.

The Spanish word negro originates from the Latin word niger, meaning black. In English, negro or neger became negar and finally ******, most likely under influence of French nègre (also derived from the Latin niger).

In Colonial America, Neger (sometimes spelled "neggar") prevailed in northern New York under the Dutch and also in Philadelphia, in its Moravian and Pennsylvania Dutch communities. For example, the African Burial Ground in New York City was originally known as "Begraaf Plaats van de Neger."

In the United States, the word ****** was not originally considered derogatory, but merely denotative of black, as it was in much of the world. In nineteenth-century literature, there are many uses of the word ****** with no intended negative connotation. Mark Twain, Charles Dickens, and Joseph Conrad (who published The ****** of the 'Narcissus' in 1897) used the word without racist intent.

The perception of the term ****** as derogatory is no doubt related to the fact that the Black people were a race regarded by many White people of the time as inferior, lazy, simian in appearance, stupid, and criminally inclined.

Im not trying to start a fight or arguement. I do not use the word rarley, and If I do, i use it more as an ignorant person, white or black. So I do miss use it, but not the same.


post Nov 22, 2006 - 10:11 AM
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I think the people that are actually laughing when he's flipping out also need some kind of help. thats not comedy im sorry.
post Nov 22, 2006 - 10:30 AM
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He was just trying to keep that border between comedian and audiance by trying to be funnier than the heckler. I think comedians always have a need to be funnier than the audience. After all, thats why they get paid to be funny and the audience doesnt. Unfortunatley, he went about that the wrong way and now is facing the responsibilities that a person who is tagged a racist has to face.


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post Nov 22, 2006 - 12:50 PM
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I find it ironic that if a white person says anything like this everyone jumps on their backs, where as people like Kanye West can spue racist crap all day and nobody demands an official apology.
post Nov 22, 2006 - 3:42 PM
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I was just suprised that no one jumped on the stage and gave him a wooping. Man, you do that kinda stuff on the street and your pretty much in for it. And yeah, those people laughing when he was going on about it, they were pretty off.
post Nov 22, 2006 - 4:39 PM
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No, they just aren't pansies like the rest of them, and taking offense to everything.

They probably also realize that they were at a comedy club, that the guy started heckling the comic, and that the comic was ripping into him. It happens.

And oh my god, guess what people, sometimes, comics use racial slurs in order to provoke laughter.

I realize that's shocking, but one day you'll all have to grow up and realize it. If everytime you hear certain words you get offended, you are going to have a hard time in life. Invest in some ear plugs in order to shield yourself from reality and especially don't go to comedy clubs.


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post Nov 22, 2006 - 4:48 PM
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he was way out of line, and said some horrible stuff... but if you watch the video, you can clearly notice that he just lost his mind there on stage. hopefully people can forgive him for saying all that stuff.


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post Nov 22, 2006 - 4:49 PM
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QUOTE(Rjb23 @ Nov 22, 2006 - 12:50 PM) [snapback]504517[/snapback]

I find it ironic that if a white person says anything like this everyone jumps on their backs, where as people like Kanye West can spue racist crap all day and nobody demands an official apology.



Dave Chappelle, Carlos mencia, Eddie Murphy, Chris Rock, and so on and so on.


Us Whiteys just need to learn that we arent allowed to make any type of racial slur...and they make money by doin it.


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post Nov 22, 2006 - 5:09 PM
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I realize that's shocking, but one day you'll all have to grow up and realize it. If everytime you hear certain words you get offended, you are going to have a hard time in life. Invest in some ear plugs in order to shield yourself from reality and especially don't go to comedy clubs.


lol, you obviously are not in touch with reality. i go to comedy clubs and one of my favorite comics happens to be lewis black who singles out every type of person. but he doesnt do it by race or color.

its not what Richards said, its how he went about doing it. He singled those people out solely by their color and race. If those words and feelings are not in your heart, they won't come out of your mouth, regardless of how much you've had to drink or how mad you become.

this is just another example of where our country is in terms of racial equality. By no means was the heckler justified in calling Richards a "Cracker".

The Movie Crash relates to this type of incident.

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QUOTE(6th_celi_vert @ Nov 22, 2006 - 4:49 PM) [snapback]504576[/snapback]

QUOTE(Rjb23 @ Nov 22, 2006 - 12:50 PM) [snapback]504517[/snapback]

I find it ironic that if a white person says anything like this everyone jumps on their backs, where as people like Kanye West can spue racist crap all day and nobody demands an official apology.



Dave Chappelle, Carlos mencia, Eddie Murphy, Chris Rock, and so on and so on.


Us Whiteys just need to learn that we arent allowed to make any type of racial slur...and they make money by doin it.


you forgot Richard Prior and who opened doors for black comics

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i have no comment on the whole underlying issue, but i can say this:

i could never forgive the guy for an episode like that.

what a way to go out, you ass.


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