JDM ST205 GT-4 WRC model, what exactly made this model different? Options

[saleeka]

Just a quick question but i'm curious as to what exactly was the difference between the regular GT-4 and the limitied edition WRC model for the 6th gen. All that i'm aware of in difference was that they had the tall spoiler and appox. 2100 were made... Water to air intercooler like the 185 RC? Anything else?

[hitcachi]

An anti-lag system.

[j0e_p3t]

Production of the All-Trac, or GT-Four as it was known outside the US, continued for the Japanese, Australian, European, and British markets. This version was to be the most powerful Celica produced to date, producing between 240-250 hp from an updated 3S-GTE engine. Influenced strongly by Team Toyota Europe, Toyota's factory team in the World Rally Championship, the final version of the GT-Four included improvements such as an all aluminum hood to save weight, four-channel ABS, an improved CT20B turbocharger, and Super Strut Suspension. The 2500 homologation cars built to allow Toyota to enter the GT-Four as a Group A car in the World Rally Championship also sported extras such as all of the plumbing required to activate an anti-lag system, a water spray bar for the front Intercooler and an extender spoiler mounted on risers. The car proved to be quite competitive in the 1995 World Championship. However, the team was banned from competition for a year after the car's single victory due to turbocharger irregularities.

taken from wiki

This post has been edited by j0e_p3t: Nov 15, 2006 - 9:52 PM

[hitcachi]

turbocharger irregularities.

I like how the Toyota engineers were banned for an ingenious idea.

[4g-gt-four]

For
those that do not understand what j0e_p3t has posted
The anti lag was only on the wrc versions for homologation purposes. Which basically means, if there were not xxxx number production cars that had the antilag, then they could not run it on the rally cars. It is not actually hooked up on any st205wrc unless someone has activated it themselves. Its the same thing with the timing belt cooling duct, which if you look at, actually is not even functional on production cars. But since they were on the production cars, they could use it in wrc. I beleive on european cars they used the intercooler sprayer plumbing system as headlight washers or something from the factory
TTE got banned because they were moving the cfm restricter farther away from the turbo so they could build more boost. Which was gaining them an extra 100hp! Thats what wiki means by "turbocharger irregularities"

[saleeka]

TTE got banned because they were moving the cfm restricter farther away from the turbo so they could build more boost. Which was gaining them an extra 100hp! Thats what wiki means by "turbocharger irregularities"

not exactly correct... For 95, the FIA deemed that turbo restrictors could not exceed 34 millemetres, 4 millemetres smaller than what was allowed previously (and in effect robbing the toyota of it's power advantage). Although nobody has taken official blame for this decision, sombody decided to design and implement a highly illegal moveable restrictor that could be expanded past the 34 millimetre limit without the seal being broken (keeping the "evidence" very well hidden), giving increased airflow and restored power.... The FIA was none the wiser for most of the 95 season until the Langley Park stages in Australia in september, If I remember correct, where the celicas competed side by side with competitors on a "special stage". The Celicas, with the illegal restritors and large power advantage, were visibly faster off the line, thus prompting the FIA to investigae into the matter... Eventually the FIA found the restrictor and it's adjustibility, and promptly banned TTE from competition for quite some time... Toyota had no recourse to save itself, so to speak, because the restritors were last inspected by the FIA in May of that year, pretty much proving that Toyota was very aware that the restrictors were there and that they were utilized to the fullest extent... Sad really that TTE had to resort to cheating just to stay competitive with the 205, because if the car wasnt so long nosed it prolly could have been fairly competitive otherwise...

[4g-gt-four]

yes exactly, but you were way more comitted to telling everyone what happened then i was with my dumbed down story

[j0e_p3t]

toyota didn't cheat. they were just disqualified due to turbocharger irregularities haha.

[Driveby]

Just a quick question but i'm curious as to what exactly was the difference between the regular GT-4 and the limitied edition WRC model for the 6th gen.

Street cred
Then again I would say that, as I own one

[Aus]

Apparently the WRC didn't come with a sunroof??

[4g-gt-four]

Apparently the WRC didn't come with a sunroof??

sunroof=more weight

[Illyont]

I would also guess that a sunroof takes away some of the stifnes from the chassie.

[Driveby]

My WRC has no sunroof or ABS.

[hitcachi]

ABS is for wieners who dont know how to brake properly.

[Aus]

ABS is for wieners who dont know how to brake properly.

Not everyones a rally driver!

[hitcachi]

But they should be! I vote to up the standards for tomorrows drivers ed courses!

[celicurr]

^^ I agree!

[saleeka]

just a little update for those who care- but I got my answers in the mail today in the form of the GT-4 WRC brochure and the differences are (as most as I can gather cause japanese is not easy to understand when you dont speak it ) -

Riser block style spoiler
No fog lamps
The turbo piping as mentioned before
hood spoiler (mounted just before the wipers for the UK folks )

no mention of the water spray intercooler ???
and yes, ABS was an option on them, as well as 8 speaker super live sound :-)

and a unique bit of trivia- The WRC models were the first to introduce White as a color to the 6th gen, in Japan (color code 202)

This post has been edited by saleeka: Nov 28, 2006 - 10:39 PM

[Negative]

Apparently the WRC didn't come with a sunroof??

sunroof=more weight

Check the pic of the one about a quarter of the way down the page [silver]. Not really a WRC or did they have the sunroof option?

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=43298&st=0

This post has been edited by Negative: Nov 29, 2006 - 3:42 PM

[Driveby]

No fog lamps?????? Every ST205, WRC or otherwise that I have seen has fog lamps. Very interesting