Celica Faster then supra, can i make my celica out run a supra. Options

[Nibbe]

What i would do if i want some hps to my celica is dropping on some st205 3sgte engine. Its easier to swap and gives you better numbers for the start and its with lower mileages (also costs little bit more). But man if you really want some supra killer change away your celica or get a gt4. Just dont make yourself a joke by trying it with fwd celica.

[97lestyousay]

what do i have to do to push over 400hp with a 5s - 94 hatchback. i wanna make a "mini supra". give me a parts lists with prices please thanks

With a proper build this should be possable. Pressure2 is over halfway there with his
5s on stock internals. The main problem seems to be wheel spin with anything over 250 whp.

[RocafellaRicer]

what do i have to do to push over 400hp with a 5s - 94 hatchback. i wanna make a "mini supra". give me a parts lists with prices please thanks

OKAY... ANYBODY that has been here a while can agree with me...THAT IS THE FUNNIEST THING IVE SEEN HERE IN MY LIFE!!!!!!!

way to go rockafellaricer! WELCOME TO 6GC!


and my rookie friend....im glad nobody has flamed you yet, but like they told me, the search button is your friend...

Always happy to provide some laughs Thanks for the welcome, I will probably only make appearances in extremely stupid threads like this one though

-Ashley

[snapshotgt]

Import an st205, and build off of that if you have that kind of money too throw at it. If you want that much hp in a Celica, you will want and need AWD.

[alaNi]

ok so say 300hp what all do i have to do to stop wheelspin. or how can i switch it to awd and how much will that cost ty

This post has been edited by alaNi: Dec 2, 2006 - 5:34 PM

[snapshotgt]

ok so say 300hp what all do i have to do to stop wheelspin. or how can i switch it to awd and how much will that cost ty

Search "AWD" and you will pull up many threads where this has been talked about.

[bojangles_8686]

you have a lot of searching and reading to do....

[6th_celi_vert]

As soon as i seen the title of this thread...I knew he was gonna get flamed eventually.

[Hanyo]

ok so say 300hp what all do i have to do to stop wheelspin. or how can i switch it to awd and how much will that cost ty

300 hp is easy to get if you have a 3sgte engine swap.
AWD is the most difficult part.


1) you need an awd drive train, such as: axel, drive shafts, COMPLETELY new rear suspention: awd tranmission 2) you need to custom mount this hardware to your celica, buy cuting the body up to peices and welding it back together. 3) your wheel spin should be eleminated by the awd conversion but if you want to get rid of wheel spin completely, you need to need to find a limited slip differental for you car.

The cost will be very very very high, because of sourcing out all the parts, and labor. You will need to find a experience shop that can do all the fabrication of the rear suspention correctly. If the rear suspention is not correctly mounted your car will not drive straight and becomes dangerious to drive. Even after they have sucessfully mounted the rear suspention, the frame of the car has been modifided and no one knows how safe the car will be in a crash afterwards.

[6th_celi_vert]

ok so say 300hp what all do i have to do to stop wheelspin. or how can i switch it to awd and how much will that cost ty

AWD is the most difficult part.


1) you need an awd drive train, such as: axel, drive shafts, COMPLETELY new rear suspention: awd tranmission 2) you need to custom mount this hardware to your celica, buy cuting the body up to peices and welding it back together. 3) your wheel spin should be eleminated by the awd conversion but if you want to get rid of wheel spin completely, you need to need to find a limited slip differental for you car.

The cost will be very very very high, because of sourcing out all the parts, and labor. You will need to find a experience shop that can do all the fabrication of the rear suspention correctly. If the rear suspention is not correctly mounted your car will not drive straight and becomes dangerious to drive. Even after they have sucessfully mounted the rear suspention, the frame of the car has been modifided and no one knows how safe the car will be in a crash afterwards.

Many have tried...NONE have succeeded...

[quicknstyle]

once again, what supra are we talking about, you should be able to take a sock one with a swap and basic bolt ons, only like 250-300whp... high hp on street cars are nothing but dyno and highway queens, because even on rwd, 1000hp is stupid. now stop with the assonine questions...

[6strngs]

I think 300hp on a 5s would be doable. you'd probably need to get some forged internals, and then a real big turbo, and a complete fuel and ignition system, then get it properly tuned... I think you could do it. it would probably be cheaper to swap a 3s and do some mods to that to make it 300 hp though.

[x_itchy_b_x]

a gazillion hp can come out of the 5s with $$$ nothing more too it.
you can also get awd for some more $$$, (ps awd conversions have been done)
so yeah its basically depends on how deep your wallet is.

[alaNi]

ok 5grand to get me 300hp or more what all parts do i need dont add in labor i got that down let me know

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

If you really know what you're doing, I bet you could get 400hp out of a 5sfe for around 10-15k. Maybe less, or closer to 10k. Then a limited slip or locking differenctial would stop or at least help wheel spin. It's easy to type that. lol

ok 5grand to get me 300hp or more what all parts do i need dont add in labor i got that down let me know

So, you have experiance with swapping motors? That's a good bit of work and tuning to get 300hp even from a 3sgte. Seems to me, if you really have to ask if you can beat a Supra with a 5sfe Celica, you don't have the know-how to do this kind of work. So, I think you better start thinking about labor. This is all just a freaking joke anyway. You're not going to do anything.

[WH95TE]

lol for 10 grand i could drop a supra twinturbo engine in it

not even close. please read. for 10 grand you might be able to convert your fwd to awd. the only reason tufy can beat a 1000 hp supra with only 600 hp is cuz of better traction off the line due to awd. video. or for 10 grand you can swap in a 3s and mod the ish out of it and possibly reach 400 hp. but like everyone said, that much hp on a fwd car isn't the best idea. the easiest way to beat a supra without spending crazy amounts of money.... autox.

and because 1000hp supra's are a joke. Sure its nice to put up those kinds of numbers, but actually racing them... If both Tufy and the Supra had 600hp it would have been a much closer race

This post has been edited by WH95TE: Dec 3, 2006 - 3:05 AM

[hitcachi]

I will probably only make appearances in extremely stupid threads like this one though
-Ashley

Please don't.

[tin_foil]

what do i have to do to push over 400hp with a 5s - 94 hatchback. i wanna make a "mini supra". give me a parts lists with prices please thanks

If you absolutely love your Celica, like most people on this site, just focus on making your celica faster. That way you can put down as much money as you're willing to, and get it nice and fast compared to civics, eclipses, etc.

If all you care about is making your celica "faster than a supra", let me give you some advice. Sell the thing and just buy a supra, cause in the end it'll be cheaper...


PS: that JZ pic is freaking hilarious. =] I showed it to my non-car-enthusiastic friend but she didn't get it...lol....no big surprise there.

[easternpiro1]

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Always happy to provide some laughs Thanks for the welcome, I will probably only make appearances in extremely stupid threads like this one though

-Ashley
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DAMN....LOL....

[BLADDER_MASTER]

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