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> Got a suspension "problem", Car not low enough...damnit!
post Dec 5, 2006 - 4:49 AM
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As some of you know, I own (as a daily driver) a 1994. ST...modded a car a lot, but since there are not enough holeless roads in HR, I decided not to go too low, or too hard with the suspension (finding a parking place is hard enough as it is kindasad.gif )...

Anyway, the suspension consists of Kayaba AGX (hardness) adjustable shocks, and APEX springs (which lowered the car approx. 2,5 centimeters (even though there was a promise of 3,5 cemtimeters written on the box).
Since the complete suspension setup (shocks+springs) is just a few months old, changing the shocks is NOT an option...since the handling is really extraordinary, and the ride comfort is not completely ruined, but springs are something that Iīd gladly replace with Eibach or something...

...so...a million dollar question; Would a different set of springs solve the problem?
While answering, keep in mind that I donīt want my Celica to drop exactly to the ground...I just need to drop a centimeter or two more than it has dropped with this setup...


Thanks a bunch!


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post Dec 5, 2006 - 9:40 AM
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QUOTE(IGloo @ Dec 5, 2006 - 9:49 AM) [snapback]507901[/snapback]

As some of you know, I own (as a daily driver) a 1994. ST...modded a car a lot, but since there are not enough holeless roads in HR, I decided not to go too low, or too hard with the suspension (finding a parking place is hard enough as it is kindasad.gif )...

Anyway, the suspension consists of Kayaba AGX (hardness) adjustable shocks, and APEX springs (which lowered the car approx. 2,5 centimeters (even though there was a promise of 3,5 cemtimeters written on the box).
Since the complete suspension setup (shocks+springs) is just a few months old, changing the shocks is NOT an option...since the handling is really extraordinary, and the ride comfort is not completely ruined, but springs are something that Iīd gladly replace with Eibach or something...

...so...a million dollar question; Would a different set of springs solve the problem?
While answering, keep in mind that I donīt want my Celica to drop exactly to the ground...I just need to drop a centimeter or two more than it has dropped with this setup...


Thanks a bunch!


My Eibachs lowered the car about 1.5"s at first. Now the car has settled over 2 years it has lowered significantly more. Since you like the ride quality I suggest patience. It will lower more as the struts wear.


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post Dec 6, 2006 - 1:19 AM
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After looking at your pics in your profile, I think its looks good the way it is. Afterall, it's lower than my celi.


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post Dec 6, 2006 - 1:26 AM
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yeah, awesome drop!


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post Dec 6, 2006 - 9:46 AM
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your drop is fine bro... but if your wanting to drop even more. i suggest you take out the cash and invest in adjustable coilovers. although i know you dont want to rid of your "new" shocks.

in relation to your question, no sport springs really drop the car low low. they are usually set cm's/inch's, usually not even going as low as they are stated. springs settle in after some considerable time. but going lower and with springs settling you'll be losing your ride comfortability.

another factor to consider is your riding with 18's and 35 profile tyres. they are a more bumpier ride. lol hope this makes you think -R


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post Dec 6, 2006 - 12:28 PM
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My Eibachs lowered the car about 1.5"s at first. Now the car has settled over 2 years it has lowered significantly more. Since you like the ride quality I suggest patience. It will lower more as the struts wear.


Umm dude...sorry to say that Eibach's have a small rep of going limp after a while, being that your drop has increased after 2 years I would say that it's probably time for some new springs...not to mention the problems that could cause for you being that those springs are designed for a 1.5" drop. If you catch my drift (lower springs are going to try and keep the same distance between the coils of the spring, so with yours getting shorter the coils are getting closer together, which will make it easier for them to bottom out and hit each other, not a good feeling).

This post has been edited by GTS13: Dec 6, 2006 - 12:29 PM


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post Dec 7, 2006 - 1:26 AM
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Thanks 2 everybody for the info!
...especially for the pampering bits...smile.gif

I guess there will be no solution to this "problem" until I finally buy some coilovers...sooner rather than later!


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post Dec 7, 2006 - 3:03 PM
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QUOTE(GTS13 @ Dec 6, 2006 - 5:28 PM) [snapback]508349[/snapback]

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My Eibachs lowered the car about 1.5"s at first. Now the car has settled over 2 years it has lowered significantly more. Since you like the ride quality I suggest patience. It will lower more as the struts wear.


Umm dude...sorry to say that Eibach's have a small rep of going limp after a while, being that your drop has increased after 2 years I would say that it's probably time for some new springs...not to mention the problems that could cause for you being that those springs are designed for a 1.5" drop. If you catch my drift (lower springs are going to try and keep the same distance between the coils of the spring, so with yours getting shorter the coils are getting closer together, which will make it easier for them to bottom out and hit each other, not a good feeling).


True but I've had other brands on my last Celica and the ride quality was for sh*t. The Eibach sportlines are close to stock ride quality and now that my car is this low I don't want to replace them. I get compliments on how well my car rides for a lowered car and I'm not changing anything until something actually wears out. I also get compliments on how well my car corners with my current setup so not changing anything for that reason either.
Thanks for your input though.


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