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post Dec 3, 2006 - 3:54 PM
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just wondering if any of you guys are using a universal silencer on a 3in tip muffler and what you would recommend?

im not looking to make my exhaust quieter, but i am looking to restrict the air flow a bit. i noticed that with my ebc totally off, my boost creep is crazy. it starts to hit 7psi and it stays there under 4k, but from 4-7k it starts to boost creep to 14psi. thats a lot of creep! im thinking that maybe i can create some backpressure with a silencer so that the WG has less exhaust flow to deal with. i figure the silencer is cheap enough to give it a shot. im also going to test my WG to make sure its not hitting the 3in DP i have.

so, post some silencer links guys and tell me what you use!


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post Dec 3, 2006 - 4:06 PM
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I know Apexi makes one for there N1 exhaust.


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post Dec 3, 2006 - 4:08 PM
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dunno if it helps but i used to have a silencer on and when i took it out boost still the same.. no boost creep. might feel less restriction but not that less till it'll boost creep that much


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post Dec 3, 2006 - 4:09 PM
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QUOTE(shin @ Dec 3, 2006 - 4:08 PM) [snapback]507449[/snapback]

dunno if it helps but i used to have a silencer on and when i took it out boost still the same.. no boost creep. might feel less restriction but not that less till it'll boost creep that much


what is your exhaust setup like? any cats? 3in from the turbo back?


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post Dec 3, 2006 - 4:14 PM
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QUOTE(lagos @ Dec 3, 2006 - 9:09 PM) [snapback]507450[/snapback]

QUOTE(shin @ Dec 3, 2006 - 4:08 PM) [snapback]507449[/snapback]

dunno if it helps but i used to have a silencer on and when i took it out boost still the same.. no boost creep. might feel less restriction but not that less till it'll boost creep that much


what is your exhaust setup like? any cats? 3in from the turbo back?


stock DP, 2.5" pipe, crush bent, tanabe racing medallion muffler, no cat. yea.. crappy set up i know.. maybe that might be why i didn't boost creep.


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post Dec 3, 2006 - 4:32 PM
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yep, thats exactly why you dont have creep issues. i didn't either when i was on my stockish exhaust. going to a full 3in, has its benefits for fast spool and making more power, but the lack of any backpressure makes boost creep into a big issue.


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post Dec 3, 2006 - 4:44 PM
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I bought a Reactive exhaust system for my g/f's eclipse a while ago came with a silencer tried it out and it vibrated and made raddle sounds. So i took it off and it sounds good. I don't know if a silencer would do the job or not, But i know it doesn't sound very good lol.


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post Dec 3, 2006 - 5:42 PM
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i might give this a try:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/New-Silence...1QQcmdZViewItem

i just have to remember if my tip is a 3in or a 4in.


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post Dec 3, 2006 - 6:21 PM
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I have that silencer but I took it off of my n1 style muffler. It rattles and gives the tone a hollow, buzzing sound (almost similar to a honda exhaust tone). I wouldn't recommend it.


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post Dec 3, 2006 - 8:12 PM
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damn

well. i think a large part of it will have to do with the exhaust you have. an N1 "style" will sound different then a magnaflow would with a silencer. im going to try it, if it cures the boost creep, but sounds bad, i can aways try to somehow mount it inside of the exhaust, before the muffer. since im not trying to make the exhaust more quiet, just less free flowing. for 20bucks, it wont be the end of the world if it dosnt work out.


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post Dec 3, 2006 - 8:22 PM
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QUOTE(lagos @ Dec 3, 2006 - 8:12 PM) [snapback]507501[/snapback]

damn

well. i think a large part of it will have to do with the exhaust you have. an N1 "style" will sound different then a magnaflow would with a silencer. im going to try it, if it cures the boost creep, but sounds bad, i can aways try to somehow mount it inside of the exhaust, before the muffer. since im not trying to make the exhaust more quiet, just less free flowing. for 20bucks, it wont be the end of the world if it dosnt work out.


Your going to need the bolt and nut that holds the silencer in place so it doesn't come off. The silencer doesn't come with one, just giving you a heads up smile.gif


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post Dec 3, 2006 - 10:49 PM
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How about fixing the creeping problem rather than restricting your exhaust? Why even invest in a free flowing exhaust if you are just going to cork it up? Sounds silly.


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i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
post Dec 3, 2006 - 10:57 PM
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QUOTE(jgreening @ Dec 3, 2006 - 10:49 PM) [snapback]507531[/snapback]

How about fixing the creeping problem rather than restricting your exhaust? Why even invest in a free flowing exhaust if you are just going to cork it up? Sounds silly.



its a way to add in a cheap fix and to test if the exhaust flow is the cause of the problem. if i knew this exhaust was going to creep so badly, i probably would have done something differently, but its too late for that. the only real way to fix it would be to add in an external gate, and im not about to do that on the ct26.


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QUOTE(lagos @ Dec 3, 2006 - 10:57 PM) [snapback]507534[/snapback]

the only real way to fix it would be to add in an external gate, and im not about to do that on the ct26.


Right because an external wastegate on a ct26 is just a silly idea and whoever thought of an external wastegate setup on a turbo with an internal wastegate must be a real moron because obviously turbos with internal gates won't work with external gates because the quantum leap fizzoromator device won't properly adjustumalate properly and then you'll end up with a craspy modular clamp that will totally blow your **** to pieces.

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I should note that if you do an external wastegate setup that once you put another turbo on you'll have to just throw the entire wastegate setup out because it is somehow COMPLETELY depending on what turbo you are running. /n00bness

This post has been edited by Punisher: Dec 3, 2006 - 11:57 PM


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post Dec 4, 2006 - 12:20 AM
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QUOTE(Punisher @ Dec 3, 2006 - 11:56 PM) [snapback]507551[/snapback]

QUOTE(lagos @ Dec 3, 2006 - 10:57 PM) [snapback]507534[/snapback]

the only real way to fix it would be to add in an external gate, and im not about to do that on the ct26.


Right because an external wastegate on a ct26 is just a silly idea and whoever thought of an external wastegate setup on a turbo with an internal wastegate must be a real moron because obviously turbos with internal gates won't work with external gates because the quantum leap fizzoromator device won't properly adjustumalate properly and then you'll end up with a craspy modular clamp that will totally blow your **** to pieces.

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I should note that if you do an external wastegate setup that once you put another turbo on you'll have to just throw the entire wastegate setup out because it is somehow COMPLETELY depending on what turbo you are running. /n00bness



no, what i meant was, that im not going to spend the time and money trying to convert a ct26 to an external gate. if im going to go through the trouble of removing the ct26, and buying a gate, and setting everything up, then im sure as hell going to want to upgrade the turbo at that time too. so the external gate will have to wait till then.

for now, i just want a band aid fix. something to tie me over for the winter. im tired of seeing my boost creep up to 17psi in this cold weather.


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post Dec 4, 2006 - 12:54 AM
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Art, if you want a band-aid for the winter, why not just put the stock dp on. That should slow the flow a bit wink.gif


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post Dec 4, 2006 - 1:14 AM
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QUOTE(Batman722 @ Dec 4, 2006 - 12:54 AM) [snapback]507565[/snapback]

Art, if you want a band-aid for the winter, why not just put the stock dp on. That should slow the flow a bit wink.gif



easy 5min band aid fixes get tried 1st ! biggrin.gif


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post Dec 4, 2006 - 5:10 AM
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keep us posted.... I always look forward to your post.

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QUOTE(Punisher @ Dec 3, 2006 - 11:56 PM) [snapback]507551[/snapback]

QUOTE(lagos @ Dec 3, 2006 - 10:57 PM) [snapback]507534[/snapback]

the only real way to fix it would be to add in an external gate, and im not about to do that on the ct26.


Right because an external wastegate on a ct26 is just a silly idea and whoever thought of an external wastegate setup on a turbo with an internal wastegate must be a real moron because obviously turbos with internal gates won't work with external gates because the quantum leap fizzoromator device won't properly adjustumalate properly and then you'll end up with a craspy modular clamp that will totally blow your **** to pieces.

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I should note that if you do an external wastegate setup that once you put another turbo on you'll have to just throw the entire wastegate setup out because it is somehow COMPLETELY depending on what turbo you are running. /n00bness

keep this crap up and your gone.
we dont need your usless crap around here man.
you were banned from c-tech for a reason,...looks like your shooting for the same goal here.
trust me, it wont take as long here.


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post Dec 4, 2006 - 9:55 AM
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Art.. why do you continue to think that an external wastegate has anything to do with the turbo itself?



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