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post Dec 24, 2006 - 3:46 PM
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"We feel there's a hole in our lineup," says Kevin Hunter, the vice president of Calty Design Research. "Toyota hasn't had a sports car since the Supra was dropped in 1997. We need some emotional punch in our lineup, a halo product."

Toyota envisions that punch to be a rear-wheel-drive Hybrid Sports Concept (HSC) that develops 400 horsepower. "It's a new kind of sports car for the 21st century," adds Hunter. "Eco and emotion in a sports car concept with a performance target of 0-60 mph in about 4 seconds and a price tag in the mid-$30,000 range."

It's no Volta, but it sure looks good.
post Dec 24, 2006 - 3:50 PM
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it's a nice idea but it's that design is alil to exaggarated...


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post Dec 24, 2006 - 3:52 PM
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Yeah, I believe when concepts are actually turned in to production they tone it down a little bit.

Still, the article brings up a good point about Toyota :

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The Toyota Supra left these shores 10 years ago and Lexus took over the prestige role for the whole company. But as Toyota has crafted generation after generation of reliable yet uninspiring automobiles, the family of Toyota buyers has begun to look a little old. A sports car might be the right thing to wake up a new generation, especially since Toyota has a relevant performance heritage thanks to ownership of a Formula 1 team since 2002, a piece of victory at the 2003 Indianapolis 500, and a new fleet of cars in NASCAR's Nextel Cup for 2007


They have to produce *something* at some point in time, maybe a toned down version of this will become a reality, if they can work out the battery issues.

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post Dec 24, 2006 - 5:03 PM
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if those specs are true by the time it actually comes out, with at least 40 mpg, then im definitely getting one.


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post Dec 24, 2006 - 5:33 PM
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thats pretty cool
front end needs to be more of a even surface instead of the bulge
but othwerwise looks sweet adn sounds amazing


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post Dec 24, 2006 - 5:58 PM
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I like the car save a few over the top details thumbsup.gif


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post Dec 25, 2006 - 6:43 AM
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LoLz isint the celica a REAL sports car!!??

hehe but yea, i dono what 2 say. looks kinda like a g-35 coupe.


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post Dec 25, 2006 - 8:11 AM
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Looks nothing like a G35 coupe. Looks like it has potential. It looks like a compact car weighing 2400-2600lb in curb weight. Hopefully it's rear wheel drive or all wheel drive to compete the latest cars out today but the design already looks like its going to be front wheel drive. And hopefully it won't be a AZ series engine since it's ranging $30,000+.

And no, the 7th Gen Celicas weren't really REAL sports cars. The GT-S could barely hold up to 300hp turbo'd with aftermarkets unless you go full custom lubrication and fabrication and most I've heard was 400whp and that requires a big time butchet in which rarely anyone would spend on a 2ZZ engine. I think they were talkin about REAL sports cars like the Supra with 320hp-1300hp potential. Quote: "But as Toyota has crafted generation after generation of reliable yet uninspiring automobiles, the family of Toyota buyers has begun to look a little old."

I knew a guy, master mechanic. I'm talkin REAL race track mechanic works on nothing but offroad toyota running 10 seconds and under from Puerto Rico. His friend payed him big time to customize a Toyota Matrix XR with the 2ZZ-GE engine. He told me he has never worked on a 2ZZ motor before from Toyota. And out of every other motor he's worked on, that motor is the most pain in the butt motor he has ever worked on. And it's the hardest to work with and hardest to get gaines from tuning.

So yes... we need REAL sports cars. tongue.gif

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post Dec 27, 2006 - 7:42 PM
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I think the MR-s was the last real sports car from toyota...you dont need high HP to be a real sports car!


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post Dec 28, 2006 - 5:02 PM
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from what i've been reading on various enthusiast websites, this car will indeed come to production, but be toned down a lot, exterior wise.

it's no longer in the "fantasize" phase, it's more in the "lets see how we can pull it off for under 40 grand" phase.

pretty sweet. i guess we'll see more at the detroit auto show later next month.
post Dec 28, 2006 - 10:05 PM
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QUOTE(Rayme @ Dec 27, 2006 - 6:42 PM) [snapback]513503[/snapback]

I think the MR-s was the last real sports car from toyota...you dont need high HP to be a real sports car!



it's NOT a sports car...it's a sport compact car...more like the celica, but a 2 seater...

yeah i wonder if this car will really go into production...NOT like the past where many cool toyota concepts just float around and then dissappear kindasad.gif ...i sure hope this one will make it into production...but they need not to put that taillight across its body...headlights make it a little wider and it resembles the supra IMO...i think the body is very sexy though...im crossing my fingers! biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(block @ Dec 28, 2006 - 9:05 PM) [snapback]513749[/snapback]

QUOTE(Rayme @ Dec 27, 2006 - 6:42 PM) [snapback]513503[/snapback]

I think the MR-s was the last real sports car from toyota...you dont need high HP to be a real sports car!



it's NOT a sports car...it's a sport compact car...more like the celica, but a 2 seater...



I don't know how anyone could come to that conclusion... Before anybody tries to spit out "it's slow", keep in mind that in turn you are then also saying that the vast majority of cars from Austin Healy, MG, and Lotus back in the day would not qualify as real sportscars either, considering that even by back then's standards they weren't fast.

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post Dec 29, 2006 - 9:20 PM
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QUOTE(saleeka @ Dec 28, 2006 - 11:41 PM) [snapback]513774[/snapback]

QUOTE(block @ Dec 28, 2006 - 9:05 PM) [snapback]513749[/snapback]

QUOTE(Rayme @ Dec 27, 2006 - 6:42 PM) [snapback]513503[/snapback]

I think the MR-s was the last real sports car from toyota...you dont need high HP to be a real sports car!



it's NOT a sports car...it's a sport compact car...more like the celica, but a 2 seater...



I don't know how anyone could come to that conclusion... Before anybody tries to spit out "it's slow", keep in mind that in turn you are then also saying that the vast majority of cars from Austin Healy, MG, and Lotus back in the day would not qualify as real sportscars either, considering that even by back then's standards they weren't fast.



i didn't say it was slow. all im saying is that it doesn't fit the category "SPORTS CAR". it's a sport compact, just like the celica. the supra is what you call a sports car or mr2 turbo. the new mrs just doesn't fit in...ask anyone smile.gif


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post Dec 30, 2006 - 8:48 PM
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QUOTE(block @ Dec 29, 2006 - 8:20 PM) [snapback]513947[/snapback]


i didn't say it was slow. all im saying is that it doesn't fit the category "SPORTS CAR". it's a sport compact, just like the celica. the supra is what you call a sports car or mr2 turbo. the new mrs just doesn't fit in...ask anyone smile.gif


I guess I'd have to ask what your definition of a sports car is then, considering that the MR2 Turbo and MR-S's capable differences essentailly boil down to sheer speed... confused.gif


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