cost of the 5sfte, how much should it cost? Options

[6strngs]

alright, I've seen alot of people say that a 5sfte set-up could be done for like $1500-1600. but everytime I sit and try to calculate a cost, I end up over $2500... could someone possibly tell me how much it typically costs for a 5sfte turbo kit? here's what I figure:

3sgte stuff (turbo, manifold, downpipe, oil pan, map sensor, oil lines) $300-400
injectors $300-400
fuel pump $100
FMIC (including all pipes, couplers, clamps) $300-500
gauges $150-200
SAFC+BTM/emanage ultimate $600
BOV $150-200
exhaust $200-300

for a total cost of $2100-2700. abd that's before any dyno tuning! is there no cheaper way to do a 5sfte?

[NgoFcukinWay]

are you going with a majority of new parts? I got my S-AFC2 for $160, but it was used, so if i got that along with a used MSD BTM, i'm not looking anywhere near $600 for that pair.

there's someone I know that's selling an almost complete used turbo kit for the 5S for about $900.

[6strngs]

are you going with a majority of new parts? I got my S-AFC2 for $160, but it was used, so if i got that along with a used MSD BTM, i'm not looking anywhere near $600 for that pair.

there's someone I know that's selling an almost complete used turbo kit for the 5S for about $900.

true, I suppose certain things could be bought used.

and where can I get this almost complete 5s turbo kit?

[MaskedMan]

Hmm i didn't know you needed to purchase a map sensor to turbo a 5sfe. What do you get it from?

[6strngs]

Hmm i didn't know you needed to purchase a map sensor to turbo a 5sfe. What do you get it from?

the stock alltrac or mr2 turbo 2bar map sensor. apparently, using the stock sensor messes with the ecu because the stock sensor doesn't know how to respond to the boost. or something along those lines. you might want to ask someone who knows more than I do...

[MaskedMan]

but the alltrac uses AFM. i thought the factory MAP sensor from a 5sfe was fine. could someone please let me know?

[6strngs]

then, i started looking for parts:
3s exhaust manifold, ct-26 turbo, oil hard lines, elbow and primary cat (also known as a downpipe), if your not planning on getting a aftermarket downpipe. also the oil pan and 2bar map sensor.

hi, i got a 5th gen 5SFE that i turbo'd, i know i know 5gen etc whatever, same engine and i too did ALOT of research.....

welded up my own manifold because i was just not impressed with the burien/OEM turbo manifold.
i use a Schwitzer t3-ish turbo, found on saabs for the most part....
Supra MK4 NA injectors, non-California spec....i dont live in the USA anyways, these suckers spray about 550cc (!) Call the friendly guys at burien toyota for the part number, i always forget to stash it in a word-document in my computer......23250-46xxx i think it is
SW20 MAP sensor.
TRE-Performance 255LPH fuel pump.

Stock ECU does fine with this MAP sensor/Injector set up. No freak-outs on the timing at all. From what i hear from the local toyota dealer (i befriended some of the Mech's after i stunned them with my build...) they told me the 3S & 5S ECU's are practically the same unit, the MAP signal on both ECU's is designed to read boost as well, AS LONG AS IT COMES FROM THE RIGHT type of MAP sensor. Non turbo MAP sensor freaks out with boost, doing the check-valve trick doesn't really cut it correctly, plus the signal it sends is always off by a few tenths of a volt. SW20 MAP sensor & Supra Injectors are the way to go.

puretone,
i actually am using the 2bar map, just out of a alltrac instead of a mr2, same unit tho.

oh ha! i was looking at your pics, i still need to figure this forum out, i musta been looking at your older pics of what seemed to look like the old MAP sensor & 300cc injectors.

yeah the 2bar SW20 MAP sensor is the way to go....alltrac 2bar MAP is the *same* thing, altho its listed with a slightly different part number in the Toyota micro-fiches, i dont get why.

I grabbed these quotes from presure2's big 5sfte post. hope it helps.

[elvasoshexai]

uh... so far i've spent 2795USD... which doesn't include a lot of the shipping/reshipping/tax/duties/brokerage i've paid for... i think i got another 1730USD of parts i need 2 spend to hv 99% of the parts

[6strngs]

uh... so far i've spent 2795USD... which doesn't include a lot of the shipping/reshipping/tax/duties/brokerage i've paid for... i think i got another 1730USD of parts i need 2 spend to hv 99% of the parts

I'm assuming (and hoping) you're using something other than a ct-26?

[presure2]

a well built, reliable turbo kit for the 5sfe should cost you ~2500-3k

[Kadett]

Like a Dutch Celica Forum member always says on our forum. (Which he has quoted from someone else probably)

"Fast, Reliable, Cheap. Pick 2"

[NgoFcukinWay]

some guy on celicatech.com is selling his set-up. it's just missing the turbo, map sensor, custom oil and water lines, and few other little tidbits.

[shin]

i spent 3k+ on mine..

[6strngs]

the way I'm planning to do it now, I expect to spend a little under 2k, hopefully, it might end up at like 2100 by the time it's all said and done.

[mycelicagt]

haha i got all my stuff for roughly $500
the turbo, manifold, and dp were $200 from a junkyard, but in great shape, basically no shaft play, and i got the map sensor
intercooler and bov $90 side mount from a eclipse GST and a greddy type s, from a friend
all the lines for about $25
and injectors off ebay 7mge for $22 with shipping and in great shape
all i need now is a fuel pump that i will get from a friend when he gets his new one, and i just have to get the piping and bend it, the exhaust is already done

[NgoFcukinWay]

haha i got all my stuff for roughly $500
the turbo, manifold, and dp were $200 from a junkyard, but in great shape, basically no shaft play, and i got the map sensor
intercooler and bov $90 side mount from a eclipse GST and a greddy type s, from a friend
all the lines for about $25
and injectors off ebay 7mge for $22 with shipping and in great shape
all i need now is a fuel pump that i will get from a friend when he gets his new one, and i just have to get the piping and bend it, the exhaust is already done

lucky.....

[mycelicagt]

yeah i know i got really lucky, if i wouldnt have found those parts i would have just bought a 3sgte and done the work to swap in the motor than the turbo kit, but i am still getting the new motor and ill be selling the kit after i get the new motor in

[elvasoshexai]

i guess i overpaid on a lot of my stuff =(

[MaskedMan]

I picked up a blown 3sgte for $75. So what parts are salvageable off that engine that i could use to turbo my 5sfe? And what else would i need to buy to finish up the kit?

[6strngs]

I picked up a blown 3sgte for $75. So what parts are salvageable off that engine that i could use to turbo my 5sfe? And what else would i need to buy to finish up the kit?

exhaust manifold, turbo, downpipe, oil pan, oil lines, and the 2bar map sensor. though the turbo may need re-built. you're still gonna need:
fuel injectors, fuel pump, piggyback unit (like SAFC or emanage), intercooler + piping, gauges (at least a boost gauge), and a blow off valve. probably a couple other small thing too.

if you decide you don't want to turbo yours, you could send some of those 3sgte parts my way