wut can a stock 3s swap hang with???, just wanting to know wut 2 expect... Options

[hashmaster52]

iono if this has already been asked, but how does a 3s swapped celi compare to other cars? could it beat a 5.0 mustang? i heard it was about as fast as an srt4 but iono...thx for any replies.

[playr158]

probably as fast as a stock SRT4
should beat anyform of mustang, minus a cobra (stock)
should be CLOSE w/in .3-.5 seconds to an E46 M3
should be as fast as a STI or WRX..

[hashmaster52]

probably as fast as a stock SRT4
should beat anyform of mustang, minus a cobra (stock)
should be CLOSE w/in .3-.5 seconds to an E46 M3
should be as fast as a STI or WRX..

with wut kind of 3s? (st185, st205, 2nd gen,etc?)

[playr158]

2nd gen should be able to do that list, considering most people w/a 2nd gen swap have a 3" dp and 3" exhaust and a boost controller, they normally don't fall under the "stock" motor catagory to keep up with those cars.

but a 3rd gen should defenitly be able to hold

[hashmaster52]

2nd gen should be able to do that list, considering most people w/a 2nd gen swap have a 3" dp and 3" exhaust and a boost controller, they normally don't fall under the "stock" motor catagory to keep up with those cars.

but a 3rd gen should defenitly be able to hold

so it would run like low 14's high 13's?

[playr158]

jeff ran a 13.9 last year @ 12 or 13psi on an RC185 motor (2nd gen)


and just off topic note...my jetta 1.8t runs 14.3

This post has been edited by playr158: Jan 19, 2007 - 1:55 PM

[hashmaster52]

jeff ran a 13.9 last year @ 12 or 13psi on an RC185 motor (2nd gen)


and just off topic note...my jetta 1.8t runs 14.3

is that the red one that u posted pics of earlier in a different post?

[lagos]

i was just talking about 1/4mile times with someone other other day. i think our 3s swaps are a lot faster then what people have run so far. on another forum, i saw that a 200hp 140tq rsx said he ran a 13.5 on drag tires. if its possible for a car with so little hp and tq to do times like that, then most of our 3s swaps should be in the low 13s (if not better) with drags and a great driver.

[TTE]

I've seen some MR2s runing 13.2 with boost controler and exhaust on 2nd gen, I hope to get into 12s with my 3rd gen.

[lagos]

I've seen some MR2s runing 13.2 with boost controler and exhaust on 2nd gen, I hope to get into 12s with my 3rd gen.

yep, your right. the mid engine, rwd setup, makes a word of difference on street tires

[hashmaster52]

how do u know wut gen it is? is there a 2nd gen and 3rd gen st185? 2nd and 3rd gen st205? im kinda confused

[lagos]

st185 = 2nd gen
st205 = 3rd gen

[hashmaster52]

st185 = 2nd gen
st205 = 3rd gen

THANK YOU! that helps a LOT!!! no more confusion

[playr158]

i don't think a basic 2nd gen swap is really going to net you more then mid 13s..

the mr2 13.2 i think would be attributed to less weight, midship rwd platform
your really not going to start to see low 13s to a 12.9 until you start doing a bit more work to your car, more practice at the strip and better launches

[x_itchy_b_x]

mr2 weigh more than celicas dont they?. atleast i think that, for some reason. i think they do really.... but i could have it the other way around.

[lagos]

i don't think a basic 2nd gen swap is really going to net you more then mid 13s..

the mr2 13.2 i think would be attributed to less weight, midship rwd platform
your really not going to start to see low 13s to a 12.9 until you start doing a bit more work to your car, more practice at the strip and better launches

one other thing to remember.

2nd gen mr2's make about 200hp at the wheels bpu.
2nd gen jdm swap celicas make about 230/240hp/tq bpu (better intercooler and jdm ecu)

so if the mr2 can run a 13.2 with the advantage of mid engine/rwd, then i think a celica could hit that same 1/4 mile with the 30-40hp that it makes over the mr2, and with some slicks and suspension upgrades.


EDIT: something funny came to mind. the owners of the local dyno around here had a really high hp del sol. the car was a beast and i think it did around 500hp? i was talking to the guy and he said that when they took it to the track, it only ran a mid 13. .... so that just goes to show that its not the hp, but the fwd platform that limits you in getting good 1/4 times.

[markie]

sigh.. what can a stock 5sfe keep up with?

a geo metro

[x_itchy_b_x]

sigh.. what can a stock 5sfe keep up with?

a geo metro

all i had on my 5sfe was an intake an it was DEAD even with a mustang 6 cylinder with an intake also.

[HaRv3sTeR]

jeff ran a 13.9 last year @ 12 or 13psi on an RC185 motor (2nd gen)


and just off topic note...my jetta 1.8t runs 14.3

wasnt it a 3rd gen?

[easternpiro1]

may take mine to the strip sunday...will let ya know