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post Feb 12, 2007 - 12:24 PM
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I've had the home-made poly mounts and they shook better bad. I now have mounts that are filled with auto body panel glue. It's a really stiff rubber stuff. This combined with my new work on the motor made the thing shake like crazy when it's cold. Anything under 7-8 hundred rpm is wear the problem is. I don't mind it, but my girlfriend keeps bitching about it. She complains about how nice the car was when I got it and now I've made it too loud, I've made it so stiff that it rides bad, and it shakes when we stop at a light. But it's faster. lol


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post Feb 12, 2007 - 12:29 PM
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anything under 700-800 rpm?
dude my car doesn't even idle that low....

but haha speed > comfort

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post Feb 12, 2007 - 12:37 PM
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Guys with vibration noises - consider getting a stethoscope and lining surfaces of vibrating parts with minimal ammounts of high duty foam - my interior plastic pieces were lined around the edges (not visibly) to prevent rattling caused by my subwoofer


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i dont drive fast, i just fly low
post Feb 12, 2007 - 2:18 PM
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My mounts have been filled with Window Weld for a couple years and they've held up great, and there's no vibration either.

For a while, I had hard urethane mounts on my old Sentra SE-R, and the vibration was too much for me so I went back to stock mounts.


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post Feb 13, 2007 - 9:27 PM
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QUOTE(jgreening @ Feb 11, 2007 - 12:02 PM) [snapback]525931[/snapback]

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QUOTE(quicknstyle @ Feb 10, 2007 - 8:42 PM) [snapback]525795[/snapback]

i have always wondered what about the people who use that 3m injection stuff on mounts to stiffen them up? anyone ever heard of this, tried it, etc?



I used it on my 5th gen GTS.. front and rear.. it worked really well.. they are still in good condition and it didn't add much vibration at all. The only way to do it and have it work well is to clean the mounts out real well.. the rubber n what not.. then layer the 3m window weld in .. shallow layers let them cure.. just keep stacking it.. Expect your car to be down for 2 days .. best to get spare mounts. But once it's done you'll never need to worry about mounts again.


I would not use window weld. Do a search on Celicatech. Chris D started a nice thread about the different options for materials for home made mounts. I used the liquid stuff mentioned in the thread - I forget the name of it right now and my mounts turned out great. I did not take the original rubber out but simply added the urethane to the existing mount. My theory for this was that I wanted a mount that had a shore hardness of about A75 to A80 and the material I purchased only came in A90. So, by leaving the stock rubber in there, I was able to effectively reduce the hardness of the entire mount. In my opinion, Kirk's inserts would save some time and hassel and you would probably never have to worry about them wearing. Most "home options" will wear at some point. However, it sounds like they are probably a little hard for most daily drivers.


I would assumed you would have used speedsource's ONE PIECE poly mounts? They're A LOT different than the kirk 2 piece inserts ..


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post Feb 13, 2007 - 9:38 PM
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QUOTE(snapshotgt @ Feb 13, 2007 - 8:27 PM) [snapback]526642[/snapback]

QUOTE(jgreening @ Feb 11, 2007 - 12:02 PM) [snapback]525931[/snapback]

QUOTE(Punisher @ Feb 11, 2007 - 12:42 AM) [snapback]525868[/snapback]

QUOTE(quicknstyle @ Feb 10, 2007 - 8:42 PM) [snapback]525795[/snapback]

i have always wondered what about the people who use that 3m injection stuff on mounts to stiffen them up? anyone ever heard of this, tried it, etc?



I used it on my 5th gen GTS.. front and rear.. it worked really well.. they are still in good condition and it didn't add much vibration at all. The only way to do it and have it work well is to clean the mounts out real well.. the rubber n what not.. then layer the 3m window weld in .. shallow layers let them cure.. just keep stacking it.. Expect your car to be down for 2 days .. best to get spare mounts. But once it's done you'll never need to worry about mounts again.


I would not use window weld. Do a search on Celicatech. Chris D started a nice thread about the different options for materials for home made mounts. I used the liquid stuff mentioned in the thread - I forget the name of it right now and my mounts turned out great. I did not take the original rubber out but simply added the urethane to the existing mount. My theory for this was that I wanted a mount that had a shore hardness of about A75 to A80 and the material I purchased only came in A90. So, by leaving the stock rubber in there, I was able to effectively reduce the hardness of the entire mount. In my opinion, Kirk's inserts would save some time and hassel and you would probably never have to worry about them wearing. Most "home options" will wear at some point. However, it sounds like they are probably a little hard for most daily drivers.


I would assumed you would have used speedsource's ONE PIECE poly mounts? They're A LOT different than the kirk 2 piece inserts ..


The speed-source mounts were not available when I did mine. I would assume that the sw20 and st185 mounts they have would not work anyway. Even if they did, they would be too stiff for me.


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i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
post Feb 13, 2007 - 10:49 PM
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QUOTE(jgreening @ Feb 13, 2007 - 8:38 PM) [snapback]526653[/snapback]

The speed-source mounts were not available when I did mine. I would assume that the sw20 and st185 mounts they have would not work anyway. Even if they did, they would be too stiff for me.


Ahh.. i see.

Yup, you can get a "custom" set of st185's from them to work with st205 mounts (my setup) .. Don't remember exactly, but you have to get ALL rears or fronts of poly kit from st185 kit. Gets complicated, but you can work out a plug and play setup with their one piece mounts. smile.gif


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