Celica Autocrossing *56K Beware*, Fort Mill, SC 2007 Options

[Gary]

Here - to offer evidence - check this out. Read in the 5th gen section it talks about the upgrade from ATA to WTA:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Celica
This is not the only place I have seen this.

Again,
ST165 = WTA
ST185 = ATA
ST185RC/CS/GroupA Rallye = WTA
ST205 = WTA

[Negative]

Where does it say WTA for ST-165? Plus why would they back pedal on technology yet pull more horses out of the end result. I also said this is not the only place I've seen this before.
Did you check out the end of that vid to see the lack of drive axle and rear diff and the exhaust running throught the tranny tunnel?

This post has been edited by Negative: Feb 13, 2007 - 4:24 PM

[Gary]

Where does it say WTA for ST-165? Plus why would they back pedal on technology yet pull more horses out of the end result. s I also said this is not the only place I've seen this before.
Did you check out the end of that vid to see the lack of drive axle and rear diff and the exhaust running throught the tranny tunnel?

Sorry, my fault not watching it till the end. You are right, it is NOT an ST165.
But I stand correct, ST165 came with WTA IC.
I bet my life on it.
They did not back pedal.
The ST165 stock WTA IC is very small.

[Negative]

I belive you as mine was swapped and I've long suspected it was ST-185 engine but this is what my friends looked like and his was ST-165 for sure:

Perhaps someone swapped the IC systems? Doesn't explain the recall though or why my frind got Joe Myer's Toyota to give him a new hood in like '97-98.

[Gary]

That is definitely an ST185 IC, not stock ST165 IC.
If you have a bigger picture of his engine bay, I can tell you which engine he has.
From that picture, it is ST185 IC and ST185 exhaust manifold heat shield.
He might have a 2nd gen engine swap into his ST165.
With that ST185 IC, he definitely needs a scoop.
Is he on alltrac.net?

[Negative]

No that car is long since confiscated Im afraid and we lost touch when he went Nissan on me. LOL. That picture was a for instance - thats not actually a shot from his engine bay but that is exactly what his IC looked like.

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

I thought when the first A2A intercoolers came out they were considered upgrades from the w2a. Because you can only cool air as cool as the engine with the w2a, but you can get it as cool as the outside air with the a2a. At least that's how they talk about them in Desiel truck terms. Maybe the ST185RCs and the ST205 had an upgraded system that ran off a seperate cooler instead of same lines and regular engine coolent. I don't know, I'm just throwing ideas out there.

[Gary]

All Celica wta IC systems (ST165, ST185RC/CS, ST205) run separated cooling system.
They have a separated heat exchanger unit on the front.
The drawback of ST165 system is the size of IC core and heat exchanger unit.
Many people with stock ST165 system modify the pump to runs constantly and/or upgrade the heat exchanger to a larger unit.

ST185 ATA IC is not really a better system either.
It is OK on the highway, but very horrible in stop and go traffic due to lack of air flow.
Many ST185 owners put a slim fan on it to help with heat soak.

The really upgrade one is from ST185RC/CS
The ST205 core is even thicker than ST185RC/CS
Also, there is a rare TTE ST185RC unit that has an extra rows of IC core and will support ~300-400 awhp.

[easternpiro1]

im glad he finally signed up! i talked to him at the last auto x i went to back in october, where's the guy with the black celica and the 4 hoosier slicks?

btw WELCOME TO THE SITE!!!!

[whitebr40]

Hey I am looking for some 16" rims for my celica at a good price. Any of you know anyone that might be selling some?

[Jaws4God]

Hey I am looking for some 16" rims for my celica at a good price. Any of you know anyone that might be selling some?

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showto...635&hl=Rims

checkout the Buying and Selling section, you can also do a search to help find stuff for sale..

[jdg371]

theres always some GTS wheels being sold at [ newcelica.org ] they run at around 200.. btw their 16x6.5