Crazy Engine Swaps I'd Like To Do...., Who's up for a real crazy swap in their Celica? Options

[Chanh55]

Is there enough room to get a 2JZ into a Celica engine bay? That would be a wicked conversion

The IS300 engine bay doesn't seem much bigger than the Celica but it fits the 2JZGTE with a few adjustments... I definately think it's do-able for a price. The RWD conversion will be interesting. If anyone does a Celica with a 2JZGTE in it... it will be on all the magazine covers for sure.

[playr158]

only problem with the comparison of engine bays with the Supra to the IS or even SC...is that those cars come with a transmission tunnel....thats your problem the MOTOR of a 2jz will SQUEEZE in there hardcore...but you would either have to sit the motor REALLY REALLY low (i don't think its possible to sit that low in the frame) or (realistic and most plausible option right here) cut out a section of the firewall dead center and make a concave curve into the floor pan + firewall inorder for the bell housing to fit.

its plausible and fully doable...but it takes LOTS of fabrication and the price of a life worth of trust in your mechanic

[pokemeintheeye]

How long would it take to do one of these projects? Everyone is just so excited to here about what projects you wanna take on that people forget some things. I think one of the very important questions is "how long?" How about adding a blacktop Beams and rwd conversion to the list?

The only problem now is. Almost no one on here has those kinds of money to spend on the projects. How would you handle paying? Is it cash/credit up front or a deposit and pay the rest when the project is done?

[Dr_Tweak]

Is there enough room to get a 2JZ into a Celica engine bay? That would be a wicked conversion

Not stock, the body would require some serious modification.

-Doc

How long would it take to do one of these projects? Everyone is just so excited to here about what projects you wanna take on that people forget some things. I think one of the very important questions is "how long?" How about adding a blacktop Beams and rwd conversion to the list?

The only problem now is. Almost no one on here has those kinds of money to spend on the projects. How would you handle paying? Is it cash/credit up front or a deposit and pay the rest when the project is done?

Time would have to basically be a non-issue. You have to either have a second car or a girlfriend or whatever to drive you around. The LAST thing I'm going to do with any of these conversion is rush I would say count on three months for sure.

100% of parts and 50% of labor must be paid up front, and the remaining 50% of labor before the car is picked up. We accept credit cards as well as cash.

A BEAMS Blacktop/6-speed/RWD conversion is GREAT idea!

-Doc

This post has been edited by Dr_Tweak: Feb 26, 2007 - 4:08 PM

[Fate]

tweak i would love to be one of the people with one of these crazy swap-i'm just not sure if i want to sink 12 grand into a 13 year old car all in one shot. true it would be practically one of a kind (depending on how many you did) but if something were to break what would be the insurance on fixing it? like i'm talking about within a month of the swap for example?

[BLINKYxMUNKEY]

3. 1JZGTE or 2JZGTE swap and conversion to REAR WHEEL DRIVE. Not a typo. You know what it is, you know you want it. We can do it. Total cost including everything: $12,000.

WHO'S UP?!

I know a couple of guys in town that are looking for a Celica rolling chasis to do this. Just for a full blown drag car though.

This post has been edited by BLINKYxMUNKEY: Feb 26, 2007 - 4:22 PM

[Dr_Tweak]

You know what project I just remembered that I've been wanting to do for a REALLY long time?

RHD CONVERSION!!!

tweak i would love to be one of the people with one of these crazy swap-i'm just not sure if i want to sink 12 grand into a 13 year old car all in one shot. true it would be practically one of a kind (depending on how many you did) but if something were to break what would be the insurance on fixing it? like i'm talking about within a month of the swap for example?

Honestly I garantee my work for life (as far as I'm concerned). I can only thing of a few very rare situations where something went wrong BECUASE of my work (a couple of hoses blowing off before I switched over to t-bolt clamps, for example). As for the mechanical parts on the car breaking, well, it's a car, that is going to happen sooner or later. But as long as we use good parts and take our time, get the engine from a reliable importer, etc, then longevity should not be a problem.

-Doc

This post has been edited by Dr_Tweak: Feb 26, 2007 - 8:28 PM

[lagos]

how about you be the first one to do this in your own car, tweak? at the very least you would have a prototype for future swaps and it would generate more business for your other projects.

honestly, i think a project like that would cost around 24k, not 12. people forget that fact that you would pretty much be building a car from the ground up. EVERYTHING would have to be stripped, and fabricated. that motor is just too big for our engine bays.

[celicaST]

1uz would be badass. one of the best v8's made. even though its an aluminum block, im guessing its still a relatively heavy engine and would throw off the balance.

[playr158]

RHD isn't too hard.....

but i'm with lagos y don't u try it on your own then get someone else to foot the bill...i see this just ending in lots of problems and law suit...
but lagos motor will fit....tranny will not thats the problem

[InfamousChappy]

All these swaps are estimated at twice if not 3 and 4 times what a 3SGTE swap is estimated at. Plus the troubleshooting you'll inevitably run into. Face it..the people that are interested in modifiying their celicas do not have this kinda money. What should be happening is figuring out how to make a swap cheaper!

I'll be in Savannah for that kick ass St. Patty's celebration ya'll throw...If you wanna drop a V8 in my celica while I'm down there have at it!

This post has been edited by InfamousChappy: Feb 26, 2007 - 11:47 PM

[H8DC3lica94]

how bout i send you the celica, pay you $500 a month until i come up with enough money to do the supra swap? ha!

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

If Dr Tweak isn't making much on them, I think the price is reasonable. He has a shop were he can get stuff cheaper, like motors. On top of that, he will do the custom fabbing and most likely have an abundance of scrap metal, tools, and supplies to get the job done. If someone was going to make some money on it, it would have to cost more.

[QuintinGT]

Would the 1UZ bolt up to the AWD tranny? An AWD V8 would be sweet. how well would this motor respond to boosting? or is it more of a NA type motor like the 1MZ? would there even be room?(for a turbo)

[95celgt]

hmm, i want 4wd added to my 3sgte.

Yes just the 4wd as I have already built my 3s, how much would that be?

[pokemeintheeye]

I don't know why people keep arguing the prices saying its gonna cost more. His prices are very reasonable. I do recall someone saying that the person who converted the black Celica in Florida to awd would charge $6,000 for the conversion. I believe that was without parts and only labor. Which is right around what Dr Tweak is charging if you add all parts needed. The shop that is doing 2jz swaps into S2000's are charging $15,000 for a complete swap all parts included. They've done 3 already.

I'd be thinking about going through with this sometime in the future. Its great to know theres a shop we can count on. 3 months is exactly what I was thinking the project would take.

[playr158]

I don't know why people keep arguing the prices saying its gonna cost more. His prices are very reasonable. I do recall someone saying that the person who converted the black Celica in Florida to awd would charge $6,000 for the conversion. I believe that was without parts and only labor. Which is right around what Dr Tweak is charging if you add all parts needed. The shop that is doing 2jz swaps into S2000's are charging $15,000 for a complete swap all parts included. They've done 3 already.

I'd be thinking about going through with this sometime in the future. Its great to know theres a shop we can count on. 3 months is exactly what I was thinking the project would take.

don't you wonder WHY they charge 15,000 for a s2k 2jz swap.....that has a tranny tunnel and RWD already in it...a celica has NONE of these....which makes sense it should cost near 20 grand

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

Would the 1UZ bolt up to the AWD tranny? An AWD V8 would be sweet. how well would this motor respond to boosting? or is it more of a NA type motor like the 1MZ? would there even be room?(for a turbo)

I've thought of the 1mzfe turbo and AWD before. But I was thinking of it in a st185. A V8 AWD would be pretty cool. I don't know how useful it would be at all, but still cool. Something to laugh about and wish you had. Not much fun as a daily driver I bet.

[6strngs]

V8 + AWD would equal something VERY heavy wouldn't it?

[Dr_Tweak]

how about you be the first one to do this in your own car, tweak? at the very least you would have a prototype for future swaps and it would generate more business for your other projects.

Because I don't have 12k to put into my Celica

1uz would be badass. one of the best v8's made. even though its an aluminum block, im guessing its still a relatively heavy engine and would throw off the balance.

Actually, the 1UZ is about 30 pounds lighter than a 3SGTE. (Not a typo).

Would the 1UZ bolt up to the AWD tranny? An AWD V8 would be sweet. how well would this motor respond to boosting? or is it more of a NA type motor like the 1MZ? would there even be room?(for a turbo)

It's possible, and a great idea as well. A well-designed low-boost turbo system could definetely work on the 1UZ with great results.

hmm, i want 4wd added to my 3sgte.

Yes just the 4wd as I have already built my 3s, how much would that be?

Is the 3S already in your car?

-Doc