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 May 18, 2007 - 8:34 PM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Jan 28, '05 From Redondo Beach, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 86 (100%)  |
Since Omar from Sunsauto is taking too long, I found this clip instead for a better deal.
Grey Top ...1900 shipped    
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May 18, 2007 - 8:56 PM
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is that a grey top or a black top?? whats the diff between the black and red and they grey? i hadnt even heard of a grey top.
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May 19, 2007 - 12:28 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 3, '06 From Czech Republic (Europe) Currently Offline Reputation: 56 (100%) |
this is just painted red top one... 100% sure
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May 19, 2007 - 12:34 AM
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yeah the blacktop looks a little different and cant be mounted at an angle like that for oil reasons (so im told) so that has to be a red top but its been painted
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May 19, 2007 - 6:48 AM
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Breakthrough Engine with Advanced Mechanism System (Toyota)
excerpt from wikipedia " The fourth generation 3S-GE, also known as the BEAMS 3S-GE began production in 1997. The first version was equipped with VVT-i and produced around 200 bhp (149 kW). It was available in a few models sold only in Japan - the MR2 G and G-Limited, the Celica ST202 SS-II and SS-III and the Caldina. BEAMS is an acronym which stands for Breakthrough Engine with Advanced Mechanism System. In 1998 a second version was released with dual VVT-i (variable timing on both the intake and exhaust cams), titanium valves and a slightly higher compression ratio. This engine powered the Altezza RS200 and produced around 206 bhp (154 kW). The two variants are easily identifiable by colour. The cam covers on the earlier model are red and on the later model, black. They are often referred to as the "Red Top" and the "Black Top" respectively. The "Grey Top" BEAMS 3S-GE was available engine option in the Rav4 in Japan. Even though the valve cover on this engine is black, it is referred to as "Grey Top" to differentiate it from the Dual-VVTi "Black Top" in the Altezza. Power output is 177 bhp (131 kW, 180 PS) @ 6600 RPM." more info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_3S-GE This post has been edited by njccmd2002: May 19, 2007 - 6:50 AM -------------------- Learned a lot in 10 years... I hardly log in anymore, last login Today Sept 6 2019, and I was forced just to clarify a post. LOL
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May 19, 2007 - 8:42 AM
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Grey top - is just the same thing as Red Top, only grey top came in RAV4. Martin - its not painted - it came in grey originaly.
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May 19, 2007 - 11:48 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 16, '05 From south carolina Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
eh gray red pink blue, whatever... it will be nice when its done i bet
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May 19, 2007 - 11:50 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 28, '05 From Redondo Beach, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 86 (100%) |
i can always buy the red valve cover and intake manifold for 300 to appear as a red top
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May 19, 2007 - 12:29 PM
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QUOTE(njccmd2002 @ May 19, 2007 - 6:48 AM) [snapback]559474[/snapback] Breakthrough Engine with Advanced Mechanism System (Toyota) excerpt from wikipedia " The fourth generation 3S-GE, also known as the BEAMS 3S-GE began production in 1997. The first version was equipped with VVT-i and produced around 200 bhp (149 kW). It was available in a few models sold only in Japan - the MR2 G and G-Limited, the Celica ST202 SS-II and SS-III and the Caldina. BEAMS is an acronym which stands for Breakthrough Engine with Advanced Mechanism System. In 1998 a second version was released with dual VVT-i (variable timing on both the intake and exhaust cams), titanium valves and a slightly higher compression ratio. This engine powered the Altezza RS200 and produced around 206 bhp (154 kW). The two variants are easily identifiable by colour. The cam covers on the earlier model are red and on the later model, black. They are often referred to as the "Red Top" and the "Black Top" respectively. The "Grey Top" BEAMS 3S-GE was available engine option in the Rav4 in Japan. Even though the valve cover on this engine is black, it is referred to as "Grey Top" to differentiate it from the Dual-VVTi "Black Top" in the Altezza. Power output is 177 bhp (131 kW, 180 PS) @ 6600 RPM." more info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_3S-GE looks like the grey top is slower red top - 200hp grey top - 177hp -------------------- 2015 Subaru WRX. World Rally Blue/Black
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May 19, 2007 - 12:55 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 3, '06 From Czech Republic (Europe) Currently Offline Reputation: 56 (100%) |
I'm not telling there is no gray top beams... I just believe this is painted one because there is the same color at badges:
 1. it's front end from Celica (that's why my guess is for red top) 2. according to EPC at RAV4 BEAMS should be same stickers as on SS-III are...  ...and IMHO those in "gray picture" looks like just one color on it (same like cover has). -------------------- No more replicas... This is evolution... This is SS-four :)
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May 19, 2007 - 1:10 PM
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QUOTE(malpaso @ May 19, 2007 - 12:55 PM) [snapback]559510[/snapback] I'm not telling there is no gray top beams... I just believe this is painted one because there is the same color at badges: 1. it's front end from Celica (that's why my guess is for red top) 2. according to EPC at RAV4 BEAMS should be same stickers as on SS-III are... ...and IMHO those in "gray picture" looks like just one color on it (same like cover has). rav 4 is FWD or AWD im pretty sure they came with the "grey top" that only has 177hp the "black top" you pictured is from the Altezza This post has been edited by spolski07: May 19, 2007 - 1:10 PM -------------------- 2015 Subaru WRX. World Rally Blue/Black
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May 19, 2007 - 1:49 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 21, '05 From dallas Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
Thats a good price for a whole clip. I wonder what makes the grey top produce less power.
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May 19, 2007 - 11:31 PM
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QUOTE(sugarfree @ May 19, 2007 - 1:49 PM) [snapback]559527[/snapback] Thats a good price for a whole clip. I wonder what makes the grey top produce less power. Maybe more torque for the rav4 beams ?? Either way the beams motor is very nice.  Considering these gas prices we have I think going NA is better... 
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May 19, 2007 - 11:34 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 28, '05 From Redondo Beach, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 86 (100%) |
add header and intake and back up to 200
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May 20, 2007 - 1:49 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 3, '06 From Czech Republic (Europe) Currently Offline Reputation: 56 (100%) |
QUOTE(spolski07 @ May 19, 2007 - 8:10 PM) [snapback]559514[/snapback] QUOTE(malpaso @ May 19, 2007 - 12:55 PM) [snapback]559510[/snapback] I'm not telling there is no gray top beams... I just believe this is painted one because there is the same color at badges: 1. it's front end from Celica (that's why my guess is for red top) 2. according to EPC at RAV4 BEAMS should be same stickers as on SS-III are... ...and IMHO those in "gray picture" looks like just one color on it (same like cover has). rav 4 is FWD or AWD im pretty sure they came with the "grey top" that only has 177hp the "black top" you pictured is from the Altezza I'm not saying it's not! I have posted only two BEAMS sticker available and information that RAV4 has the same one as SS-III... that's it. -------------------- No more replicas... This is evolution... This is SS-four :)
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May 20, 2007 - 3:24 AM
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1900$ ?!?!?!?!?!?! o.0
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May 20, 2007 - 4:10 AM
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QUOTE(3WayStunna @ May 20, 2007 - 3:24 AM) [snapback]559647[/snapback] 1900$ ?!?!?!?!?!?! o.0 go for it bro ^_^ X infinity -------------------- 2015 Subaru WRX. World Rally Blue/Black
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May 20, 2007 - 3:49 PM
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hmm... 1900 is a pretty good price. but only 177 hp? maybe you should wait just a lil bit longer for the redtop. but if you really can't wait, then just do it.
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Jun 17, 2007 - 9:31 PM
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Any updates???
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Jun 17, 2007 - 10:34 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 28, '05 From Redondo Beach, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 86 (100%) |
waiting for a red top to show up, a member knows of one but probably will buy it before i do
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