"dont get bigger tires... it will throw off your speedo", i beg to differ |
"dont get bigger tires... it will throw off your speedo", i beg to differ |
May 24, 2007 - 9:06 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
so, for years ive always had people say to stay with low profile tires, because anything bigger will throw off your speedo. im sure we've all seen the online calculators and countless threads. ive even had tirerack call me back and try to convince me to change my order from 225-45-17s to 205-40-17s because of this..lol ...
well anyway, i just wanted to say that all that, is mostly a myth. i recently got a gps for my car. my speedo is dead on with the mph reported by the gps. i was a bit shocked because i expected it to be off by at least 1-3mph. so go ahead, get bigger tires and enjoy the ride quality..your speedo will be just fine This post has been edited by lagos: May 24, 2007 - 9:25 PM -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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May 24, 2007 - 9:21 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 31, '05 From Southern California Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
i learned that with my GPS too
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May 24, 2007 - 9:27 PM |
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Administrator Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
With my 215/45/17s on my Celica (AT200 tranny), my speed is off by approximately eight percent. And this is according to a police radar.
I don't see why your speedometer isn't off. Are you using the factory S54 tranny? -------------------- New Toyota project coming soon...
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May 24, 2007 - 9:32 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
QUOTE(Coomer @ May 24, 2007 - 10:27 PM) [snapback]561310[/snapback] With my 215/45/17s on my Celica (AT200 tranny), my speed is off by approximately eight percent. And this is according to a police radar. I don't see why your speedometer isn't off. Are you using the factory S54 tranny? yeah factory s54. you cant really go by the radar gun, cause its hard to remember the exact mph you were at, at the exact second he shot you with the gun. you could have slowed down or sped up for a second and not realized it. -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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May 24, 2007 - 9:35 PM |
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Moderator Joined Apr 17, '03 From Rockland NY Currently Offline Reputation: 15 (100%) |
I have a set of BF Goodrich G-Force KDW2s 225/45/R17, They should be here tomorrow.
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May 24, 2007 - 9:35 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 13, '05 From Poughkeepsie, NY Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
car companys actually set there speedo 2 to 3 mph higher then what your going, thats y cops get u for 5mph+....ever see a ticket for 3mph over? I learned with my gps that on stock wheels i can go 50mph on the speedo, but im actually doing 47mph on the gps....gg
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May 24, 2007 - 9:40 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 11, '06 From Tasmania Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I had smaller tryers on my old car and they put the speedo out by 10%
at 110km/h i was realy traveling at 100km/h alot faster take off by the way also with bigger tyers you should be able to fix this with some resistors in the speedo wire, shouldn't you. but can i ask why you want bigger tyers just for looks. -------------------- Ok Gladys, lets play house, you be the door and I'll shut you.
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May 24, 2007 - 9:40 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
QUOTE(Defgeph @ May 24, 2007 - 10:35 PM) [snapback]561313[/snapback] I have a set of BF Goodrich G-Force KDW2s 225/45/R17, They should be here tomorrow. so now when your going 150+mph, youll know the cop had a right to write you that ticket -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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May 24, 2007 - 9:42 PM |
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Moderator Joined Apr 17, '03 From Rockland NY Currently Offline Reputation: 15 (100%) |
Shoot, thats if that chump can catch me
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May 24, 2007 - 9:42 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
QUOTE(devilsden97 @ May 24, 2007 - 10:35 PM) [snapback]561314[/snapback] car companys actually set there speedo 2 to 3 mph higher then what your going, thats y cops get u for 5mph+....ever see a ticket for 3mph over? I learned with my gps that on stock wheels i can go 50mph on the speedo, but im actually doing 47mph on the gps....gg you might be onto something. i noticed that my moms matrix, with bone stock wheels and tire size, was slightly off compared to the gps. so it could be that getting bigger tires actually puts your speedo back to where it really should be. -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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May 24, 2007 - 9:48 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 13, '05 From Poughkeepsie, NY Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
QUOTE(lagos @ May 24, 2007 - 10:42 PM) [snapback]561324[/snapback] QUOTE(devilsden97 @ May 24, 2007 - 10:35 PM) [snapback]561314[/snapback] car companys actually set there speedo 2 to 3 mph higher then what your going, thats y cops get u for 5mph+....ever see a ticket for 3mph over? I learned with my gps that on stock wheels i can go 50mph on the speedo, but im actually doing 47mph on the gps....gg you might be onto something. i noticed that my moms matrix, with bone stock wheels and tire size, was slightly off compared to the gps. so it could be that getting bigger tires actually puts your speedo back to where it really should be. ive noticed it in my celica, and a 2005 toyota matrix (both on stockers) also when i had my aftermarket rims and tires on the celica, i passed a "how fast your going, this is the speed u should be at...SLOW DOWN" police sign, the road was 30, and i was going 30 says the police thing, and my speedo said 30 on the dot...so...idk who cares neway its like 3 mph...no ones gonna write u a ticket for 3mph over neway and if they do...ill pay it. -------------------- Kawi Love |
May 24, 2007 - 10:00 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
i've seen a ticket for 5mph over...
i got a warning for going 11mph over -------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
May 24, 2007 - 10:12 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 14, '07 From Long Island Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
some local town police on long island will give you a ticket for a few mph over... its their primary source of income lol
as for the speedometer accuracy - it is a liiitle bit off according to gps - the faster i drive the more 'off' it goes -------------------- 94 Celica ST - CAI, CarPuter, many interior mods!
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May 24, 2007 - 10:30 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 13, '05 From Poughkeepsie, NY Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
QUOTE(stephen_lee @ May 24, 2007 - 11:00 PM) [snapback]561333[/snapback] i've seen a ticket for 5mph over... i got a warning for going 11mph over lol ive gotten 10 over....but ive never seen 5 of less. -------------------- Kawi Love |
May 24, 2007 - 10:47 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 16, '06 From Bowling Green KY Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
here its impossible to get a ticket for five over because unles you're going 6+ you wont get a point off your license... aka its a waste of time.
i learned this in traffic school lol -------------------- **If you play My Brute, joing the 6gc.net clan!**
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May 24, 2007 - 10:52 PM |
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Moderator Joined Apr 17, '03 From Rockland NY Currently Offline Reputation: 15 (100%) |
Cops will only pull you less than 5 over if there is something else they are looking for. Drugs, alcohol, or suspicion of other nefarious activities.
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May 25, 2007 - 12:04 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
I was curious about this same thing. As odd as it sounds, my 18'' wheels with 35mm tires are millimeters bigger than my stock 15s & stock tires.
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May 25, 2007 - 1:59 AM |
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QUOTE(Supersprynt @ May 25, 2007 - 6:04 AM) [snapback]561381[/snapback] I was curious about this same thing. As odd as it sounds, my 18'' wheels with 35mm tires are millimeters bigger than my stock 15s & stock tires. It's the rolling radius of your wheels that effects your speedo.... Say a Celica is supposed to have 195/55/R15 tyres Its rolling raduis will be:- 195mm Tyre width Profile 55 - 55% of tyre width (107.25mm) Rim 15" or 381mm Dia (190.5mm for radius) Rolling Radius = 190.5+107.25 = 297.75mm My setup is 215/40/R17.. 215mm Tyre width Profile 40 - 40% of tyre width (86mm) Rim 17" or 431.8mm Dia (215.9mm for radius) Rolling Radius = 215.9+86 = 301.9mm That's +4.15mm. So for 215/35/R18's.... 215mm Tyre width Profile 35 - 35% of tyre width (75.25mm) Rim 18" or 457.2mm Dia (228.6mm for radius) Rolling Radius = 228.6+75.25 = 303.85mm That's +6mm. -------------------- |
May 25, 2007 - 6:30 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 18, '04 From Silverdale, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
The spec when setting a speedo is if you want it to display 20 mph then you can set it when the it is reading anywhere between 18 - 24 mph. So yours might have been close to correct but your tires have put you into the upper range. Also the speed readings from a gps aren't exact.
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May 25, 2007 - 7:08 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 18, '05 From Calgary Currently Offline Reputation: 20 (100%) |
if it really is a concern, you can always get it calibrated... this one shop 5 mins away can do it. i think it's about $60...
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