UnderDash lighting, Help me wire it !! Options

[beastman]

is there any way to "test" the ground, or just plug and see if it turn on ? would they blowburn if i do that ?

no they shouldnt blow if you try out the ground. they just wont turn on. Now if you mix up the wires...thats a different story

[NaderG]

the ones i am buying come with a switch , connected wires and " instructions" , i just done want to buy before i know how to wire them ! ...i think they come with a remote too .... 23.99 free shiping ... good deal

[LeonStryfe]

hey man! I can definitely help you out with this one.

Instead of tapping into an already used source such as cig lighter etc, via splicing or crimps, make your own new source which is very easy. You can also set it up so you can have a switch to turn it on and off.

If your gonna make a completely new source, you have to consider 2 things that are very important; The wire and the fuse.

Wires are categorize in terms of capability to accept heat, since current = heat. Certain wires can only handle so much before it melts and cause a fire.

For example a 1 awg (gauge) wire can handle up to 250 amps. A 10 gauge wire can only handle 30 amps. If for example you run 60 amps on a 10 gauge wire, you will melt the wire and possibly cause a fire within your car. This is why we use a fuse. The fuse limits the current that goes through the wire.Each fuse of course differs. So if I want to use a 10 gauge wire, I need to have a 30 amp fuse to be safe. Of course you can go much lower rated fuse. 10 awg wire with 20 amp fuse etc. As long as your fuse does no go above 30 your wires is safe.

Buy a fuse holder with a high rated (0 awg to 10 awg) gauge wire, and connect it to the positive side of the battery as close as possible. This way your "unprotected wire" wont burn up because of the distance. Just remember, the closer the fuse the safer you are. Then attach a 3 amp blade fuse into it.

Now you are wondering why 3 amps? LEDs, Cold Cathodes and Neons do not take a lot of juice. If i can remember correctly, LEDs take .04 amps, and cold cathodes at the most .17 amps. However, if you choose to go with a much higher fuse, say 5, it'll be perfectly ok. Just dont use anything above 22 gauge wire.

Battery ---> Fuse----->(switch)--->(distribution block: this thing just splits it for you so you can run source wires to every part of your car and into each light. Best thing to do is just do it parallel instead of series. If you're using LEDs dont forget to use Resistors!!!)

Take each ground of each light and just run into another distribution block and ground that distribution block.

I'll take pictures of my wires, and I'll show you how I connected them as well as where I ran it through. There is a very easy way of running your wires into the inside without going through the firewall.

PM me as well if you need so advice.

[CelicaST_CALI]

im pretty sure that ima stay with the simple one,cause i dont think im ever going to want the neon on when the interior lights arent on..NaderG can i have the link to this 23$ lights?

This post has been edited by CelicaST_CALI: Jun 22, 2007 - 12:20 AM

[NaderG]

im pretty sure that ima stay with the simple one,cause i dont think im ever going to want the neon on when the interior lights arent on..NaderG can i have the link to this 23$ lights?

honestly i think i lost the website name , once i find it i will post it on here

[CelicaST_CALI]

ok!

[cnelson]

yeah, i met 16. lol, 8 guage would be crazy. i was pretty tierd and wirting quick last night.

you could use my way, you just need to find a fuse that is always on.. like.. i dunno, i'm sure theres one thats ussaly always running?

[cnelson]

altough everyone might want there neon/leds on all the time.. its not really worth it unless you are showing the car off.. and i mean.. lights during the day doesn't look like cool? But if you did, you could just turn your lights and the leds/neons would come on.. plus i was reading an article once its always good to have your lights on even in the day time!

[NaderG]

im pretty sure that ima stay with the simple one,cause i dont think im ever going to want the neon on when the interior lights arent on..NaderG can i have the link to this 23$ lights?

OK , i have been looking at a bunch of prices latey so i made a mistake ! its actually 27.99 and i am not sure if it is free shipping , sorry about that well , here is the website

www.ledunderbody.com

I have another question : If i tap into my cigarette lighter wire and have both the LEDs on and my phone charging through the lighter , wouldnt that fry the wire ??

This post has been edited by NaderG: Jun 22, 2007 - 10:51 AM

[LeonStryfe]

yeah, i met 16. lol, 8 guage would be crazy. i was pretty tierd and wirting quick last night.

you could use my way, you just need to find a fuse that is always on.. like.. i dunno, i'm sure theres one thats ussaly always running?

fuse thats always on? that does make sense, if you put a fuse in a connection it basically "works" all the time. It's just limiting the amount of current passing through the wire.

im pretty sure that ima stay with the simple one,cause i dont think im ever going to want the neon on when the interior lights arent on..NaderG can i have the link to this 23$ lights?

OK , i have been looking at a bunch of prices latey so i made a mistake ! its actually 27.99 and i am not sure if it is free shipping , sorry about that well , here is the website

www.ledunderbody.com

I have another question : If i tap into my cigarette lighter wire and have both the LEDs on and my phone charging through the lighter , wouldnt that fry the wire ??

No it wont fry your wire, and but remember theres only so much it current it can give.



If you want to have the ability to turn on and off the exterior and interior "lights" in your car you can simply do the following


[Battery]--->(fuse)-----(distribution block)


From the distribution block have two switches. One switch for the inside and another for the outside.


PS - those are expensive. -> www.ledunderbody.com

Try oznium instead.

[NaderG]

yeah, i met 16. lol, 8 guage would be crazy. i was pretty tierd and wirting quick last night.

you could use my way, you just need to find a fuse that is always on.. like.. i dunno, i'm sure theres one thats ussaly always running?

fuse thats always on? that does make sense, if you put a fuse in a connection it basically "works" all the time. It's just limiting the amount of current passing through the wire.

im pretty sure that ima stay with the simple one,cause i dont think im ever going to want the neon on when the interior lights arent on..NaderG can i have the link to this 23$ lights?

OK , i have been looking at a bunch of prices latey so i made a mistake ! its actually 27.99 and i am not sure if it is free shipping , sorry about that well , here is the website

www.ledunderbody.com

I have another question : If i tap into my cigarette lighter wire and have both the LEDs on and my phone charging through the lighter , wouldnt that fry the wire ??

No it wont fry your wire, and but remember theres only so much it current it can give.



If you want to have the ability to turn on and off the exterior and interior "lights" in your car you can simply do the following


[Battery]--->(fuse)-----(distribution block)


From the distribution block have two switches. One switch for the inside and another for the outside.


PS - those are expensive. -> www.ledunderbody.com

Try oznium instead.

well , true , they are cheaper but theese are LEDs which will match the rest of my car's LEDs colour , they also come wired with a fuse and controls ... saves me from half the wirring headache

[CelicaST_CALI]

nader are u sure neon on interior is legal ina vert in cali?Cuase i talked to some cops,no i wasnt in trouble,and they said any extensive lighting is not allowed when your car is in motion and if it discractes other drivers,now i was thinking is there anyway to like rig up a rader detecor that can turn off the neon when it goes off,cause i have a rader detector and it has saved my ass more than once,i asked about neon under the car but in avert its all outside,i would check if b4 u spend $.

This post has been edited by CelicaST_CALI: Jun 22, 2007 - 3:42 PM

[cnelson]

by a fuse thats always on.. i met one that has contant power when the car is on. because than you can just use 'add-a-fuse mini'

[NaderG]

nader are u sure neon on interior is legal ina vert in cali?Cuase i talked to some cops,no i wasnt in trouble,and they said any extensive lighting is not allowed when your car is in motion and if it discractes other drivers,now i was thinking is there anyway to like rig up a rader detecor that can turn off the neon when it goes off,cause i have a rader detector and it has saved my ass more than once,i asked about neon under the car but in avert its all outside,i would check if b4 u spend $.

keyword " extensive " I actually done research in this area and asked arround , apparently under dash kits are ok since they dont distract other drivers and are for the sole purpose of lighting the interior of the car ... it really depends on the cop who will see them , i will install them and see what happens , i think i would just get a 10$ fix it ticket at worst , i think if i do get pulled over , the cop would let me go once i turn them off .

[CelicaST_CALI]

Yea im sure im going to do this mod but i want to make sure i dont get pulled over for it.Also here a good kit but the shippings 18$

http://www.ledunderbody.com/index.asp?Page...D&ProdID=36