Taboo engine swap? Options

[Razgriz]

lately i've been looking at swapping out my 7afe for a 3s.. but i was never really sure if that was the best engine to transplant. so my friends and i were talking and the topic about replacing the stock engine with that of another car manufacturers came up.

now ive done this before with v8's and the like (favorite was squeezing a 302 chevy into a 240, hehe..)

but thats more of a wrench and hammer job.. my favorite kind. but to the question,

recently through some friends i have come upon a 20B 3 rotor TT mazda engine and was wondering is it possible to drop it in my 94 celi'?? these 'tuner' engines/cars have a little more electronic wiring going on than i am used to. but does anyone know what i would be getting myself into?? (besides converting to an
all-trac.)

sorry if i offended anyone by wanting to put a mazda engine in a perfectly fine toyota. (i'm just a fan of both)

[Kadett]

Nice Idea but it has one big problem to solve.

How do you get the engine to work with the Celica's FWD setup?

[Rayme]

I got murdered once here by saying I was thinking of an H22 in a celica

[Rockford]

LS1 into your celica,

[OrbitalGT95]

You want a cosmo engine in your celica. My buddy who owns speed vision factory here in pitt, has a 20B in is fd3s. Custom made cross member, the wiring is sooo messed with that engine he said screw it and did a complete stand alone which is better of course. Custom mounts, engine and tranny...t then if u did You would need the whole rear end set up cause there is no way to make the engine fwd. Gonna have to add a fuel cell in there...but ya i think thats about it. If u want links to his set up p.m me and i'll send them to ya. But imho just stop while ur ahead, get the 3sgte...something like this is just stupid cause it would cost several thousands of dollars and with that money you could buy a nice fd3s or a supra

oh and not to mention that the 20b isprob one of the most expensive engines to purchase these days from japan. For a non turbo 20b it's 4k, and for a TT 20b like 6k

This post has been edited by OrbitalGT95: Jan 28, 2007 - 1:32 PM

[ihaveacelica2]

i say its doable, to an extent, the guys over at mr2oc.net have been workin out ways to stuff rotories into the mr2 using subaru or volkswagen transmissions and a little custom fab. itd essentially be the same setup just FWD, insted of MR.

http://www.mr2oc.com/showthread.php?t=50958

link to the thread on mr2oc

[Razgriz]

You want a cosmo engine in your celica. My buddy who owns speed vision factory here in pitt, has a 20B in is fd3s. Custom made cross member, the wiring is sooo messed with that engine he said screw it and did a complete stand alone which is better of course. Custom mounts, engine and tranny...t then if u did You would need the whole rear end set up cause there is no way to make the engine fwd. Gonna have to add a fuel cell in there...but ya i think thats about it. If u want links to his set up p.m me and i'll send them to ya. But imho just stop while ur ahead, get the 3sgte...something like this is just stupid cause it would cost several thousands of dollars and with that money you could buy a nice fd3s or a supra

oh and not to mention that the 20b isprob one of the most expensive engines to purchase these days from japan. For a non turbo 20b it's 4k, and for a TT 20b like 6k

hey guys thanks for your thoughts it seemed like it would be kind of cool so that's why i threw it out there.. and yeah, OrbitalGT95 i wouldn't mind seeing your friends setup.

btw when i said i came across a 20b i meant to say that i've come into possesion of one. so obtaining one isn't an issue.

[Justin]

I think the transmission from a first gen probe will sctually bolt up. Don't quote me on it though. My friend was telling me about it. I just so happen to have a probe gt in my backyard too. Transmission was good when it quit.

[FallenHero]

i say its doable, to an extent, the guys over at mr2oc.net have been workin out ways to stuff rotories into the mr2 using subaru or volkswagen transmissions and a little custom fab. itd essentially be the same setup just FWD, insted of MR.

http://www.mr2oc.com/showthread.php?t=50958

link to the thread on mr2oc

I always go to Mr2oc for technical discussion. great guys there.

[OrbitalGT95]

http://visionspeedfactory.com

my buddys shop, check out shop cars, his name is jesse parker

[Davesceli]

I think this swap would be sweet...i couldn't afford it but if you can go for it. You can set it up to RWD and drift it. Plus you'll get those cool flames shooting out you tail pipes like those other high performance rotaries!!!

[soulshadow]

Lexus V8 FTW!

[coldbluesteel]

Just check out my build thread

[Jared95]

I got murdered once here by saying I was thinking of an H22 in a celica

i will give it to honda cuz h22's run....friends got a civic hatch with a h22 and its running high 13's with just a intake.