Celica or MR2, What would you get? Options

[HyperDeathKill]

Arg, I always forget that the newest generation is the 3rd one. Anyway, did you know the 1st gen Mr2s are supposedly based on a rejected lotus styling?

I like the way the new ones look, I like em a lot. It's just sad they don't have the power.

[DonMagicJuan]

I've seen a really nice fixed up one around my area I think they look really cool and I would get if I had the chance if I had to choose between a celica or an mr2 i'd probably get the mr2 but that's just me.

This post has been edited by DonMagicJuan: Aug 1, 2003 - 6:10 PM

[XE_Nathaniel]

Yes it is true...its not a reject more than a "we worked with toyota so why not give them the chassis we wont use" type thing. Turned out Toyota sold it with big earnings. Toyota and Lotus has always had their low profile stuff going on. Hell look at the new ZZ30 MR2 Spyder/ MR-S.. put a freakin Lotus Elise and a MR-S together and there is DEFINATELY a resemblance. If you owned an MR-S the next logical upgrade is the vicious looking Elise. Hell..if you need mroe proof the next lotus Elise will have a TOYOTA 2ZZ-GE engine tuned to 190HP with a TOYOTA drivetrain and other TOYOTA bits.....estimated weight is around 1900 running 12/low 13 second quartermiles. Danm.....now I want a Lotus LOL. Nothing is better than a Light, Top Down, Exotic looking roadster with a crisp tranny and an excellent engine matched to the chassis....::ahhhhh:: LOL

-Nate

[XE_Nathaniel]

QUOTE (HyperDeathKill @ Aug 1, 2003 - 3:16 PM)

I like the way the new ones look, I like em a lot. It's just sad they don't have the power.

The age old question.....Why the hell didn't Toyota put the 2ZZ-GE instead of the 1ZZ-FE. Heres the answer...

Toyota had in mind that "hmm what would make us have profitable sales yet let us have a good quality sports car that can have fun"

Toyota Factored In the Following:
FACT: THe AW11 MR2 had the bset sales of the MR2 line
FACT: Critics attacked the heavier and less involving 2nd gen MR2 Turbo although it was more powerful.....tehy also attacked the 30K+ Price tag.
FACT: Lotus original design seemed to give a great edge and sales.

Tehy looked into the 1ST gen mr2 and what made it so popular.....they also thoguht "hmm maybe we shoudl do something innovative so that we have anotehr entice balh blah blah.....which then came the SMT (Sequential Manual Transmission"

They also looked to the classic british roadsters and etc.

Toyota found that they shoudl combine Lotus Elements (Lightweight and Goodlooking) classic british roadster appeal and then the AW11 original charming essence...

Although some love it and some hate it the MR-S is a fun machine...

Toyota finally decided on a frame not unlike the Pontiac Fiero which would make it cheeper to replace body panels and lighter too.

Toyota uses also plastics but very high qualtioy plastics to lower weight.

The 1ZZ-FE engien is used because they and many feel that it is more responsive and less work (in other words.more fun) Toyota claims that not sticking a 6-Speed be better for lighter weight (although now they stick a 6Speed in there in otehr markets..and now for the 2003 year there is a 6-Speed Sequential instead of only 5) The 2ZZ-GE engine is a bit harder to work but with the greater effort equates for more HP. The extra 50HP does not come in untill AFTER 6000 RPM's so Toyota thinks that the 1ZZ-FE engine is good enough.

MotorTrend tested the car and got a 0-60 in around 6.9-7.6 Seconds....the guy was probobly very thin.

The car only weighs around 2100 pounds w/o driver

Now think about the next lotus elise..wit hteh 2ZZ-GE, 6-Speed and only 1900 pounds......wowie

-Nate

[FireinDC]

yeah but still--- 300 ****ing horsepower... thats enough for me---------BTW im kinda a n00b still- why cant a ff setup go over 300 hp

[Cody]

Torque steer, for one.

[Uppitycracker]

Well after alot of thinking Im going to call around for insurence quotes on monday too see what a mr2 turbo will run me, also a 94 gt celica, and a 1990 300zx na.

Then from there i will decide what i wanna do, just think guys im still staying true to toyota no matter whatso who cares which one i get!

[speedracer_2020]

Hey.. there are a few 6Gen Celica's available up here in Toronto (what 3.5 hours from you .. lol)

So you shouldn't have difficulties tracking one down! Insurance is crazy though! Especially in Ontario.

I've noticed that Toyota Canada didn't bring many into Canada so getting parts is stress at time. Main things such as brakes, blah blah blah interchangable with other lines.. no problem..

Try getting something complex and expect to wait 3-5 weeks. It's already been 6 weeks for my shift boot (still waiting)

I also needed a special brake component.. had to order from either LA or Japan ... so I wound up welding/drilling the thing on my own..

Let me know if you need any help.

Shaun

[macavely]

hard chose...i would try to get the mr2

[boosted_K2]

my insurance on my MR2 will be about 200 bucks less per year than it is on my celica