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post Jul 22, 2007 - 11:19 PM
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toyota didnt build the 5sfe with any intentions of power, if nitrous was the god of all power like you are making it out to be then why do so few celicas have it? how come people spend more than three grand and endless hours of work on 3s swaps when they could be bolting on the o so amazing nitrous.


Nitrous is by far go of all power...i'll be the first to tell you i'll NEVER use it inside my motor (doesn't mean i won't use it on my car) but this is because of my specific setup and tuning.
Simply to explain "why don't more celicas have it"
~because most 6th gen celicas are in the hands of younger people that a) are newer to cars/don't know specifics about detailed tuning/don't have enough finances/smart enough not to kill them selves on the street.

the 6th gen community while it is a great one, and is making progress. is very behind the curve on car modification. Civics, mustangs, integras, cameros, and miatas ALL have major gains on us. There simply isn't enough market in our cars to have the 50 or so people on nitrous like you would see on hundreds of 70hp 4cylinder (OMG) civics.

Just because you don't see it often, or you don't completely understand it, doesn't mean it isn't practical (which nitrous is VERY practical) and safe.

With the newer technology in nitrous kits, their application is becoming ever more easily obtainable and safer.


and timing advancement can only be done as posted above in 94/95 celicas 96+ are OBDII and different frown.gif (i'm pretty sure)

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post Jul 23, 2007 - 12:40 AM
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I guess due to the low hp powered models in US, not many people on 6gc are pursuing that path kindasad.gif
post Jul 23, 2007 - 3:32 AM
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QUOTE(Redline08 @ Jul 22, 2007 - 6:34 PM) [snapback]581279[/snapback]

O and by the way sherlock he lives in cali which has the most picky and strict inspections in america, in addition cali is home to thousands of ricers who think nitrous makes your car a rocket and im sure mechanics know to check the intake tube or the intake manifold, it takes 2 seconds and they get to charge for removal so its 2 seconds well spent.

umm... why don't you actually try know what you're talking about before you say anything. California doesn't even have an inspection. we just need smog once every two years and when I had mine done in april he basically just checked that I still had two catalytic converters and that my intake had a CARB sticker on it. that was it. besides, even if they did check for nitrous they only check once every two years so you just have to pull the whole thing out once every other year. I'll be ripping my turbo back out in two years (if I don't sell the car by then) for smog.

cali is home to thousands of ricers? haha. it's also home to the some of the most modified cars in the country. it all depends on what your definition of rice is. to me, a ricer is someone who trys to mod their car to be cool but really doesn't have a clue about how anything actually works.... which to me, is kinda sounding like you right now.


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post Jul 23, 2007 - 9:22 AM
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ok i dont know anything about how cars work but i do know that pumping nitrous into it is a bad idea? no... i do know things about cars, not as much as other people but i know enough and have been around cars enough to know that nitrous isnt practical or popular. So why would you call me a ricer? i dont drive a civic or have silly non-functional hood scoops. I just bought a nice looking car and accepted that it has an econo engine not capable of producing much power. I never said my econobox is the fastest car on earth like ricers...

just to cool things off here because this community isnt the place to fight, you either love nitrous or hate it, there is no in between. I did my research on the stuff and IMO i just didnt think it was worth the risk and time tuning to get 50-75hp out of an economy slowica. If i had a car with a bit more beef like a supra i might explore nitrous more because performance engines can handle molestation better. I live in NY where you have to get your car inspected like every 6 months and they do a rigorous inspection of the engine and exhaust components, they specifcally check for performance mods and things like nitrous, on top of that cops will 90% of the time ask good looking cars to open there hood and they will inspect it themeselves. Nitrous has a no-tolerance policy in NY too, its a really bad idea here and ive just grown to be against it.

I really dont care anymore so no beef
post Jul 23, 2007 - 9:38 AM
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If it's not for you, that's fine, but just don't go telling other members it's wrong for them


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post Jul 23, 2007 - 10:43 AM
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from what i read, he was just giving his opinion, just as you are. everyone chill and respect the others words. Say, "I believe he is wrong, and this is what I thinkg..."


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post Jul 23, 2007 - 10:54 AM
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QUOTE(cHinaman727 @ Jul 23, 2007 - 11:43 AM) [snapback]581457[/snapback]

from what i read, he was just giving his opinion, just as you are. everyone chill and respect the others words. Say, "I believe he is wrong, and this is what I thinkg..."


no believe....he IS wrong. and trying to pass off opinion as fact..this is where many around here are getting misinformed and going the wrong direction.

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post Jul 23, 2007 - 10:56 AM
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QUOTE(playr158 @ Jul 23, 2007 - 3:54 PM) [snapback]581459[/snapback]

QUOTE(cHinaman727 @ Jul 23, 2007 - 11:43 AM) [snapback]581457[/snapback]

from what i read, he was just giving his opinion, just as you are. everyone chill and respect the others words. Say, "I believe he is wrong, and this is what I thinkg..."


no believe....he IS wrong. and trying to pass off opinion as fact..this is where many around here are getting misinformed and going the wrong direction.

+1 for playr

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post Jul 23, 2007 - 12:58 PM
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back up

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this is where many around here are getting misinformed and going the wrong direction


hipocrite

"he is trying to push us in the WRONG direction"

thats pushing your opinion...

we were BOTH wrong in trying to foil EACHOTHER, lets just not do it again
post Jul 23, 2007 - 1:51 PM
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no, you just posted your opinions about nitrous as fact. I actually posted up factual info. There's a difference


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post Jul 23, 2007 - 5:19 PM
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you did the same thing, just give up, you said one thing and i said the opposite, thats it, there was no right or wrong so just quit it ok?
post Jul 24, 2007 - 9:40 AM
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lol well there is right and wrong....but thats besides the point.
oh and more cheap horsepower...tune-ups and get your cooling system to perform at optimum ability

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post Jul 24, 2007 - 11:38 AM
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I just recently had my coolant flushed. It was pretty bad, car would run fine except on longer trips it would start to overheat. When I had the guy flush the coolant for me, he said that he had to do it two times because there was so much stuff built up in it. I was thinking of getting one of the TRD thermostats but i am unsure on where to go to purchase it. Any Ideas?
post Jul 24, 2007 - 11:48 AM
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ok so how do we add horse power to our cars for god sake with OUT turboing it or addin nitrous..basically there car 3 mods for these things with out spendin over a couple hundred dollers...CAI,Exhaust/headers, and timing..i have come to realize that these cars are NOT fast..they were built more for handeling..you wanna have fun with it and stop worring about hp? take it to a damn road corse and watch how good these things handel....and with only a little bit of susopension work they are next to untouchable for the price range they are in...you want fast?? 3SGTE is you answer or for the money straight up american muscle..which i am now onto....350 camaro (f Body) which was just stolen last tuesday and i found it amazingly...not to get off the topic but really we just have to live with the fact they arent the fastest cars and arent going to be...just make it nice and enjoy haveing a 6gc origonal sick looking body style that they are


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post Jul 24, 2007 - 12:13 PM
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QUOTE(k-weaver @ Jul 24, 2007 - 12:38 PM) [snapback]581868[/snapback]

I just recently had my coolant flushed. It was pretty bad, car would run fine except on longer trips it would start to overheat. When I had the guy flush the coolant for me, he said that he had to do it two times because there was so much stuff built up in it. I was thinking of getting one of the TRD thermostats but i am unsure on where to go to purchase it. Any Ideas?


a koyo aluminum radiator will help keep things down
as well as running: distilled water + an additive such as REDLINE WATER WETTER.
(no need for coolant like Prestone, until the weather gets colder)

post Aug 8, 2007 - 11:56 PM
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what's up man love the 5sfe this is my second celica gt in two years I have a duel cold air intake with a thomas racing chip that works good gave my celica gt 23 hp get sum throotle body spacers for like 100 they will give you between 15 to 22 hp headers are the next thing im getin right now im putin two electirc turbos they will give you about 25 to 35 more hp you can get a y unit from autozone to split your cold air intake if you want I love it I could talk about my car all day but my car has alot of mile like 180',000 to say I take good care of my celica and get a tornado im telling you if you want more hp without blowing your motor with a real turbo get the electric ones my buddy makes them for 70 each or 125 for two with the couple of things on my celica im pushin around 165 to 170 im puttin the electric turbo's on the weekend then I should push around 200 to 210 thats without throotle body spacers or headers them two are next month hope I helped you out even a little CELICAS RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!
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QUOTE(my96celica @ Aug 8, 2007 - 9:56 PM) [snapback]586547[/snapback]

what's up man love the 5sfe this is my second celica gt in two years I have a duel cold air intake with a thomas racing chip that works good gave my celica gt 23 hp get sum throotle body spacers for like 100 they will give you between 15 to 22 hp headers are the next thing im getin right now im putin two electirc turbos they will give you about 25 to 35 more hp you can get a y unit from autozone to split your cold air intake if you want I love it I could talk about my car all day but my car has alot of mile like 180',000 to say I take good care of my celica and get a tornado im telling you if you want more hp without blowing your motor with a real turbo get the electric ones my buddy makes them for 70 each or 125 for two with the couple of things on my celica im pushin around 165 to 170 im puttin the electric turbo's on the weekend then I should push around 200 to 210 thats without throotle body spacers or headers them two are next month hope I helped you out even a little CELICAS RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!

I bet if you get on a dyno you won't have more than 120 at the wheels.


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post Aug 9, 2007 - 9:16 AM
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200 to 210


electric turbos are garbage everyone knows they hurt your engine way more than regular turbo and dont even work... our throttle bodies are allready big enough we dont need spacers... tornado is a scam and eBay will tell you this, eBay will also tell you those crappy resistor "racing chips" are a scam too. Cold air intake adds like 3hp, and headers add maybe 5hp. Your friend is ripping you off, save your money and dont try and buy cheap HP off eBay. 200-210 is the most ridiculous statement i have ever heard, 6strngs was right, you wont make more than 120 on a dyno...

save your money and research things before you assume what the seller is telling you is true (especially on eBay). Dont go down the path of cheap hp, everyone knows its a rip off and will hurt your car instead of helping it.

research research research, sorry for getting you down too...
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I figured that much a place on this website tells us that to get the max out of our upgrades to reset our ECU everytime we upgrade it's pretty darn easy they tell us how to do it and im still getin my throttle body spacers then I will dyno the car again and ill let you all know how much hp I have and what upgrades I have.if anyone can dyno test thier car try reseting ur ECU then dyno the car let us all know if it's true
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QUOTE(my96celica @ Aug 9, 2007 - 12:56 AM) [snapback]586547[/snapback]

what's up man love the 5sfe this is my second celica gt in two years I have a duel cold air intake with a thomas racing chip that works good gave my celica gt 23 hp get sum throotle body spacers for like 100 they will give you between 15 to 22 hp headers are the next thing im getin right now im putin two electirc turbos they will give you about 25 to 35 more hp you can get a y unit from autozone to split your cold air intake if you want I love it I could talk about my car all day but my car has alot of mile like 180',000 to say I take good care of my celica and get a tornado im telling you if you want more hp without blowing your motor with a real turbo get the electric ones my buddy makes them for 70 each or 125 for two with the couple of things on my celica im pushin around 165 to 170 im puttin the electric turbo's on the weekend then I should push around 200 to 210 thats without throotle body spacers or headers them two are next month hope I helped you out even a little CELICAS RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!



Dude that is badass. Dual CAI with throttle body spacers. Do you have Dual headers as well?


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