BONDS HITS 756 !!!! Options

[Supersprynt]

I doub't any of us could hit 756 home runs even with steroids.

LOL what? Did this need to be said?

[cHinaman727]

yeah! w00t!

[ILuvMyCelica95]

Hank did it without the "juice". Thats an accomplishment.

bonds is a pussy.

and i know someone is going to bring up giambi because i am a yankee fan. I personally hate him.

it's called CHEATING people.

i really think he shouldn't get credit for this. It's so stupid.

This post has been edited by ILuvMyCelica95: Aug 9, 2007 - 12:11 PM

[Defgeph]

[ILuvMyCelica95]

[Sh0gunkid8721]

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[quote name='Sh0gunkid8721' date='Aug 8, 2007 - 10:19 AM' post='586319']

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Obviously it will aid in most other sports like football but i dont see how it aids in baseball. Sports like wrestling, football and other physically demanding sports, i can see how that would be cheating, but in a sport like baseball where the bat does all the work, i just dont see it and i dont buy into that increased bat speed bit either. Everybody will have their own seperate point of views on this but thats just mine.
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if it doesnt aid in baseball, then why did he use it......most people dont use steroids for no reason. body builders use it to get buffer for competitions, athletes use it to perform better. bonds is an athlete.

it wasnt like he just went "oh hai guise i wan teh get buff0rz for no reeson"

it was more like "dam, what can i do to hit this ball harder and farther"
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I dont know why they do it because power hitters in baseball get al their power from their hips and lower body. not so much from their upper body. Just like in golf. So when i hear "steroids helps increase their bat speed to hit the ball further" thats a load of crap. Thats why when you see golf distance competitions, all the competitors are overweight men much like John Daly. I also dont believe that a corked bat will make a ball travel further. I just dont buy into that either. People look at Bonds body his rookie year and what his body looks like now...the dudes been playing baseball for 2 decades. Do i think that he used enhancers? most likely but that shouldnt take away from what he's accomplished.

Performance enhancers in my opinon just doesnt make that much of an impact in a sport like golf and baseball. Thats just what i believe.

This post has been edited by Sh0gunkid8721: Aug 10, 2007 - 12:59 PM

[Sh0gunkid8721]

Hank did it without the "juice". Thats an accomplishment.

bonds is a pussy.

and i know someone is going to bring up giambi because i am a yankee fan. I personally hate him.

it's called CHEATING people.

i really think he shouldn't get credit for this. It's so stupid.

If you compare stats, Aaron had 12,364 at bats in his career while Bonds had 9,774 at bats (Bonds 22 seasons, Aaron 23). Aaron played 3,298 games whereas Bonds played 2,958 games. Meaning Aaron has played more games per season than Bonds has. That just makes the feat more incredible. Enhancers may have helped a little but i doubt that it couldve helped that much.

In hindsight Aaron may have hit a lot of home runs but he also had so many more at bats than the players that play today. If every basebally player had about 12,000 at bats in their career, that record wouldve been broken by A LOT of guys. Guaranteed.

Also no other baseball player has been walked more within a 5 year span. Through 2000-04, Bonds has been WALKED 872 times. The next closest? Babe Ruth with 691 walks in 1920-24. He's been walked 2,426 times in his career which is most in history. Put that into consideration when you count the homeruns also.

Heres the shocker...Between the ages of 21-29 (8 year span) he hit 253 homeruns. Between the ages of 35-43 (8 year span), he hit 334. Thats not that much of a difference in homeruns really. So ask urself again. Did his enhancers really help him THAT much? NOPE.

And if u doubt the credibility of my stats, then ur doubting ESPN.

* Bonds Career By Age
Age Games AB BA HR AB per HR
21-29 1,264 4,456 .284 253 17.61
30-34 678 2,311 .298 169 13.67
35-39 712 2,175 .331 261 8.33
40-43 304 832 .290 73 11.40

So before u go on buying into the medias bull, get to know the facts.

This post has been edited by Sh0gunkid8721: Aug 10, 2007 - 1:23 PM

[neKronos]

Bonds sucks plain and simple.
Check this article out, its about his stupid ass elbow protector
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/ne...t_id=1003621797

[Sh0gunkid8721]

Bonds sucks plain and simple.
Check this article out, its about his stupid ass elbow protector
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/ne...t_id=1003621797

read what i wrote before u make judgements again. media makes him to be this bad guy. its a joke...its his record to keep.

[Supersprynt]

Heres the shocker...Between the ages of 21-29 (8 year span) he hit 253 homeruns. Between the ages of 35-43 (8 year span), he hit 334. Thats not that much of a difference in homeruns really. So ask urself again. Did his enhancers really help him THAT much? NOPE.

You make a good argument up until this paragraph. Thats a shocker, but not in the right sense. In the time where most players do their best, when they are young, are able to heal quickly and develop the most muscle easier, he does worse than 14 years later? This statistic by itself has to make people wonder.

In addition, those stats you posted on the bottom:

* Bonds Career By Age

Age Games AB BA HR AB per HR
21-29 1,264 4,456 .284 253 17.61

35-39 712 2,175 .331 261 8.33

Take a look at the AB per HR. When he's younger, he's hitting a home run ever 17.61 at bats. When he's 14 years older, he's hitting a home run ever 8.33 ABs? He's effectively doubling his efficiency as he gets older? I don't doubt experience helps but thats a big jump.

Hank Aaron hit 299hr between 21-29yrs (5,472 ABs) & 203hr between 35-39 (2,399 Abs).
Babe Ruth hit 280hr between 21-29yrs (3,462 ABs) & 192hr between 35-39 (2,333 ABs).
Barry Bonds hit 253 between 21-29yrs (4,456 ABs) & 261hr between 35-39 (2,175 ABs).

I'm not saying he did or did not, but those stats, the fact that he increases his HRs as he gets older, I find a little suspicious.

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Aug 10, 2007 - 1:59 PM

[neKronos]

read what i wrote before u make judgements again. media makes him to be this bad guy. its a joke...its his record to keep.

And i was referring to his character, not his baseball playing abilities with or without chemical enhancements

Did you even read that article?

[dustin15brown]

yeah the record is tainted
Yeah Bonds cheated
yeah they most likely helped
but I think regardless, despite how much I dislike him, the record would have been broken

[LewFX]

Hes a great athlete none the less...70% of baseball players in the year of the strike bulked up using a form of performance drug. sosa, palmiero, brady anderson, giambi, mcgwire, etc...baseball fans lost interest, so they got the players to get bigger and hit more homers in hopes to bring fans back. so in 95, the ball was changed, players changed and fans came back. also, if you notice bonds' bat, its maple which the ball flys off if hit right, so put strength, agility, techonology and you get a natural hitter. is the record tainted? no...i havent seen bonds hit a weak homerun that barely cleared the wall. he got himself in shape with help, so what...many substances werent banned in that time so its not all bonds' fault. accept the fact theres a new home run king and move on...arod will pass hime and he will be scruntinized as well.

[massbrandon]

I love maple bats lol. But yeah did anyone fail to notice that Bonds hat size went up 2 full sizes over 2 seasons?? That kinda bothers me. I mean I've heard of growth spurts but dang!!!

This post has been edited by massbrandon: Aug 12, 2007 - 12:09 PM